# Gun Laws  01/14/2013

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-laws-01-14-2013/266013>\
**Category:** Shift518 Off Topic\
**Created:** [January 14, 2013, 9:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-laws-01-14-2013/266013 "2013-01-14T21:27:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![GearheadNY.com](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9de053/32.png) [@GearheadNY.com](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GearheadNY.com)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2013, 12:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-laws-01-14-2013/266013/361 "2013-02-22T12:40:57Z")

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> [@WTB: beginner bike (250) LEGAL tomorrow 7/21](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-beginner-bike-250-legal-tomorrow-7-21/51810/6):
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> Exactly, same here. new guys…

Werd to that, lost mine a while ago…

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**Author:** ![QuickLT1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/eada6e/32.png) [@QuickLT1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/QuickLT1)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2013, 12:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-laws-01-14-2013/266013/362 "2013-02-22T12:56:27Z")

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> [@Hydrogen Powered Equinox... I have one!! \*\*PICS\*\*](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hydrogen-powered-equinox-i-have-one-pics/51646/56):
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> someone get me into srs
> 
> who took me out of there anyway?

it says im in there but i can never find the damn thing…

Meatpaws said he put me in a while ago, still can see it

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**Author:** ![Boxersix](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxersix/32/6327_2.png) [@Boxersix](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boxersix)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2013, 2:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-laws-01-14-2013/266013/363 "2013-02-22T14:32:10Z")

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NICS bs makes no sense…do not worry. I feel it’s a bunch of hype talk/fear mongering again…

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**Author:** ![1SLOWCAM](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/1slowcam/32/6734_2.png) [@1SLOWCAM](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/1SLOWCAM)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2013, 2:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-laws-01-14-2013/266013/364 "2013-02-22T14:43:52Z")

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Thankfully I sold all my non complient guns sadly all I have right now is a red ryder bb gun and a pellet pistol… but on the brightside I used that money to submit my pistol permit and once that proccess is over im just buying hand guns for a while unless I find a good deal on another pump shotty.

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**Author:** ![v8lonoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/45deac/32.png) [@v8lonoma](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/v8lonoma)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2013, 3:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-laws-01-14-2013/266013/365 "2013-02-22T15:11:20Z")

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> [@FS: Corner Computer Desk - $25 or it's trash Sunday night](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-corner-computer-desk-25-or-its-trash-sunday-night/51779/8):
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> NICS bs makes no sense…do not worry. I feel it’s a bunch of hype talk/fear mongering again…

They’ll retrieve the form that was filled out at the store which contains serial number, model, etc etc. it’s totally possible for them to do this.

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**Author:** ![Sketchy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sketchy/32/6378_2.png) [@Sketchy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sketchy)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2013, 4:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-laws-01-14-2013/266013/366 "2013-02-22T16:59:21Z")

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So NYSP are sending letters to people saying they plan on sending troopers to their homes to confiscate firearms…

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**Author:** ![Sketchy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sketchy/32/6378_2.png) [@Sketchy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sketchy)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2013, 5:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-laws-01-14-2013/266013/367 "2013-02-22T17:04:23Z")

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> [@KrazyKid"](#):
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> check the srs thread. I aint posting the information I found here.

Can someone please post?

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**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2013, 5:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-laws-01-14-2013/266013/368 "2013-02-22T17:25:23Z")

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> [@On another topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/51422/6):
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> They’ll retrieve the form that was filled out at the store which contains serial number, model, etc etc. it’s totally possible for them to do this.

It’s totally possible for them to go house to house and give people back rubs too.

However I’ll believe it when I see it.

Over the last 4 years it’s been 90% BS on the internet and the 10% truth that actually happened that should have been paid attention to got lost/washed away with the other BS and nobody paid attention.

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**Author:** ![Jammer](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jammer/32/6349_2.png) [@Jammer](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jammer)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2013, 5:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-laws-01-14-2013/266013/369 "2013-02-22T17:54:38Z")

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> [@On another topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/51422/6):
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> They’ll retrieve the form that was filled out at the store which contains serial number, model, etc etc. it’s totally possible for them to do this.

Millions of guns sold in December alone. I hope the state plans to hire a ton more people to perform said research with all that extra cash they have. Armed people. Armed democrats actually. Come to think of it, why use the Fed data base, why not just pull all receipts, from say, Brian at American.

That would be easier , although I can tell you he wouldnt just hand them over that easy either.

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**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2013, 6:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-laws-01-14-2013/266013/370 "2013-02-22T18:00:29Z")

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So Anti Gun Democrats are getting armed so they can take away guns?

That’s brilliant :lol

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**Author:** ![Jammer](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jammer/32/6349_2.png) [@Jammer](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jammer)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2013, 6:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-laws-01-14-2013/266013/371 "2013-02-22T18:02:53Z")

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> [@stimulus check](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stimulus-check/51816/23):
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> So Anti Gun Democrats are getting armed so they can take away guns?
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> That’s brilliant :lol

lol glad you saw the comedy in that

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**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2013, 6:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-laws-01-14-2013/266013/372 "2013-02-22T18:05:04Z")

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Well at least Republicans will finally get their revenge when they get to shoot at gun inexperienced Democrats coming for their guns.

That’s a dream come true for many. Plus they fill find irony in killing anti gun people with a gun.

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**Author:** ![Boxersix](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxersix/32/6327_2.png) [@Boxersix](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boxersix)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2013, 6:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-laws-01-14-2013/266013/373 "2013-02-22T18:09:40Z")

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> [@stimulus check](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stimulus-check/51816/15):
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> It’s totally possible for them to go house to house and give people back rubs too.
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> However I’ll believe it when I see it.
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> Over the last 4 years it’s been 90% BS on the internet and the 10% truth that actually happened that should have been paid attention to got lost/washed away with the other BS and nobody paid attention.

Yup, agreed

> [@Computer Problem/Virus need help asap](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/computer-problem-virus-need-help-asap/51802/7):
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> Millions of guns sold in December alone. I hope the state plans to hire a ton more people to perform said research with all that extra cash they have. Armed people. Armed democrats actually. Come to think of it, why use the Fed data base, why not just pull all receipts, from say, Brian at American.
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> That would be easier , although I can tell you he wouldnt just hand them over that easy either.

This exactly…so our broke ass state is going to pay for State troopers time and waste national guard manpower to go to millions of homes to take rifles that were never registered…plz…

> [@stimulus check](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stimulus-check/51816/23):
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> So Anti Gun Democrats are getting armed so they can take away guns?
> 
> That’s brilliant :lol

Fucking LOL’ing. That would be the running definition of hypocrisy from there on out if I ever heard one. :rofl I can see the graphic now “so we want to take your guns, so we gave guns to the anti-guns to go take ur guns. Take that!”

Priceless…

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**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2013, 6:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-laws-01-14-2013/266013/374 "2013-02-22T18:17:39Z")

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Well they want to take guns, so they can have guns to take away more guns.

So if people dont give them guns, they wont have guns to take more guns.

:ponder

Edit: Unless tanks

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**Author:** ![v8lonoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/45deac/32.png) [@v8lonoma](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/v8lonoma)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2013, 6:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-laws-01-14-2013/266013/375 "2013-02-22T18:19:35Z")

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> [@Computer Problem/Virus need help asap](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/computer-problem-virus-need-help-asap/51802/7):
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> Millions of guns sold in December alone. I hope the state plans to hire a ton more people to perform said research with all that extra cash they have. Armed people. Armed democrats actually. Come to think of it, why use the Fed data base, why not just pull all receipts, from say, Brian at American.
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> That would be easier , although I can tell you he wouldnt just hand them over that easy either.

Do you know what your talking about? If they ask for the receipt they get the receipts. They’ve asked for receipts before, he has to give them to them…

He malls them every receipt FYI… FBI gets every one.

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**Author:** ![Jammer](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jammer/32/6349_2.png) [@Jammer](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jammer)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2013, 7:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-laws-01-14-2013/266013/376 "2013-02-22T19:03:45Z")

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> [@stimulus check](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stimulus-check/51816/28):
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> Do you know what your talking about? If they ask for the receipt they get the receipts. They’ve asked for receipts before, he has to give them to them…
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> He malls them every receipt FYI… FBI gets every one.

That i did not know. so every receipt from every gun store gets mailed to the FBI? wow

I been learned!

I was being kinda of factious with my comment and just blabbering. you proved it… lol

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**Author:** ![Jammer](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jammer/32/6349_2.png) [@Jammer](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jammer)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2013, 7:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-laws-01-14-2013/266013/377 "2013-02-22T19:06:14Z")

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oh sorry…for those of you in rio linda…

fa·ce·tious  
/fəˈsēSHəs/  
Adjective  
Treating serious issues with deliberately inappropriate humor; flippant.

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**Author:** ![v8lonoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/45deac/32.png) [@v8lonoma](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/v8lonoma)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2013, 12:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-laws-01-14-2013/266013/378 "2013-02-23T00:24:04Z")

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> [@Screen protectors for phones](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/screen-protectors-for-phones/51817/2):
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> That i did not know. so every receipt from every gun store gets mailed to the FBI? wow
> 
> I been learned!
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> I was being kinda of factious with my comment and just blabbering. you proved it… lol

Every nics check form that is filled out (4473 or w.e it is) and singed by yourself gets sent directly to the FBI. Once a pallet gets full off it goes. This form is as good as receipt. It has all your info and the gun you bought. Yes that means transfers also

I’ve been there when some one gets denied, the ATF will call minutes later after the guy leaves asking what he tryed to buy and the address he used…

This doesn’t happen to all who get denied but I’ve seen t happen multiple times.

This is just my knowledge through my good connections but yes all stores are obligated to submit every form…

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**Author:** ![KrazyKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/krazykid/32/6371_2.png) [@KrazyKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KrazyKid)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2013, 6:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-laws-01-14-2013/266013/379 "2013-02-25T06:04:40Z")

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> [@stimulus check](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stimulus-check/51816/12):
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> So NYSP are sending letters to people saying they plan on sending troopers to their homes to confiscate firearms…

> [@stimulus check](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stimulus-check/51816/13):
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> Can someone please post?

I can’t say much without jeopardizing my job, but I have firsthand knowledge. Keep in mind I stand to gain NOTHING from making any of this shit up. I am just as worried as everyone else.

Think of it like this. You buy a car, and every driver has to be “tested” to receive the car. On that test, the dealer records the type of car you’re asking to purchase and has to keep it on file, and send said file to a repository. DM\*V just has to write an application that contacts the “testing” system. Retrieve your information (including the paper copy sent to them that was scanned/entered alongside your test information) match it to their records of the car being put on the road. If it hasn’t been put on the road, another agency is automatically alerted of the mismatch. The application then automatically fills out the “case” and generates alerts to people that have to take manual action. Knock knock. It could even be as simple as car collector A has gone through 10 “tests” but only 1 car was registered… at that point they don’t even need to know what type of car it was (the paper submission with that information part) if they choose to play their cards that ways. All they know is at one or many points in time you NEEDED to be tested, so that car was at least once in your possession and you didn’t complete the process they are looking for you to do at that time. Type is irrelevant if they choose to run it that way. The only thing in the car collectors favor, are private sales while by the letter of the law said they SHOULD have been documented, but most weren’t… BUT those cars better not be on the premises if they are looking for one you were “tested” for or that’s a giant bonus for them if they are found.

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**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2013, 6:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-laws-01-14-2013/266013/380 "2013-02-25T06:09:48Z")

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So… owning unregistered firearm is the same as buying a car and never registering it from a private sale. You have it, and nobody knows you have it.

If you bought a car from a dealer and never registered it they have it on record and if you take it out on the road and caught with it, you’re fined and the vehicle is impounded.

Doesn’t sound like anything “extreme/totalitarian/fascist” to me, just sounds like a typical bureaucracy, whether I like it or not.

No point in good door to door as eventually their policy will work.

Then again since we are all technically criminals now, and laws don’t work on criminals we have nothing to worry about.

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