# Gun Laws 01/14/2013 **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Off Topic\ **Created:** [January 14, 2013, 9:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-laws-01-14-2013/266013 "2013-01-14T21:27:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Sketchy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sketchy/32/6378_2.png) [@Sketchy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sketchy)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 4:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-laws-01-14-2013/266013/81 "2013-01-15T16:18:52Z")
What’s the deal for pump shotguns? Maybe ill get into shooting trap or skeet beats just trying to put holes in paper. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_123](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/justin_123/32/6478_2.png) [@Justin\_123](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Justin_123)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 4:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-laws-01-14-2013/266013/82 "2013-01-15T16:42:06Z")
> [@JSEnclosures"](#): > > You know what else i noticed in this law, no more exceptions for military and LEO Still exempt. Only the penal law changed. The exemption comes from the CPL, section 1.20. That’s how we are permitted to use duty weapons and carry without permit as well. ---
**Author:** ![capitalcrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e79b87/32.png) [@capitalcrew](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/capitalcrew)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 4:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-laws-01-14-2013/266013/83 "2013-01-15T16:51:53Z")
So do we have until the grace period is up to buy privately or not? ---
**Author:** ![Sketchy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sketchy/32/6378_2.png) [@Sketchy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sketchy)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 4:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-laws-01-14-2013/266013/84 "2013-01-15T16:55:51Z")
What grace period as soon as he signed the bill you legally cannot sell a AR or “assault rifle” ---
**Author:** ![capitalcrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e79b87/32.png) [@capitalcrew](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/capitalcrew)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 4:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-laws-01-14-2013/266013/85 "2013-01-15T16:57:22Z")
There was mention of some 60 day grace period. ---
**Author:** ![Sketchy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sketchy/32/6378_2.png) [@Sketchy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sketchy)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 4:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-laws-01-14-2013/266013/86 "2013-01-15T16:58:36Z")
> [@On another topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/51512/3): > > There was mention of some 60 day grace period. Oh didnt hear anything about that ---
**Author:** ![capitalcrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e79b87/32.png) [@capitalcrew](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/capitalcrew)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 5:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-laws-01-14-2013/266013/87 "2013-01-15T17:00:35Z")
It may have just been a rumor, i don’t know. I know it had to do with ammo at least but i don’t know about anything else. There is a lot of misinformation spreading so it’s hard to know what’s legit. Just trying to figure it out. ---
**Author:** ![Omega](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/omega/32/6425_2.png) [@Omega](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Omega)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 5:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-laws-01-14-2013/266013/88 "2013-01-15T17:09:26Z")
> [@Stuck at a redlight?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stuck-at-a-redlight/51509/29): > > It may have just been a rumor, i don’t know. I know it had to do with ammo at least but i don’t know about anything else. There is a lot of misinformation spreading so it’s hard to know what’s legit. Just trying to figure it out. [http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/01/15/nyregion/20130115nygun-document.html?ref=nyregion](http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/01/15/nyregion/20130115nygun-document.html?ref=nyregion) ---
**Author:** ![Sketchy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sketchy/32/6378_2.png) [@Sketchy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sketchy)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 5:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-laws-01-14-2013/266013/89 "2013-01-15T17:13:35Z")
This was posted by a Moderator on NYF **this is his interpretation of the new laws ot may or may not be true** All private firearm sales require a NICS check starting 60 days from enactment. Dealer performing NICS check may not charge more than $10 fee. “Assault weapons” can be sold to someone in NY state who can legally own them for 1 year after enactment. “Assault weapons” can be sold to someone outside of NY state any time. Starting 1 year after enactment the sale must be reported. “Large capacity ammunition feeding devices” can be sold to someone in NY state who can legally own them for 1 year after enactment. Magazines up to 10 rounds in capacity can be loaded to their full 10 round capacity when at a duly incorporated indoor or outdoor shooting range or when at a competition under the auspices of the NRA or IHMSA. No magazine can be loaded with more than 7 rounds of ammunition except as noted above starting 60 days after enactment. Possession of a preban (1994 ban) magazine that holds more than 10 rounds is unlawful starting 60 days after enactment. This seems to conflict with the item that I wrote above that says you can sell them to someone in NY state for 1 year. I’m confused; I must understand some part of it wrong. Sales of ammo require a background check starting 1 year from enactment. I am unsure if this applies to private party sales as the definition of an ammunition seller is “SELLER OF AMMUNITION” MEANS ANY PERSON, FIRM, PARTNERSHIP, CORPO RATION OR COMPANY WHO ENGAGES IN THE BUSINESS OF PURCHASING, SELLING OR KEEPING AMMUNITION." ---
**Author:** ![Baumbauer](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/baumbauer/32/6530_2.png) [@Baumbauer](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Baumbauer)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 5:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-laws-01-14-2013/266013/90 "2013-01-15T17:16:45Z")
I thought I read somewhere that fixed mag was no more than 5. So no Garand. Could be wrong there. ---
**Author:** ![capitalcrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e79b87/32.png) [@capitalcrew](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/capitalcrew)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 5:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-laws-01-14-2013/266013/91 "2013-01-15T17:29:54Z")
> [@Where can i DL bberry OS 4.5?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/where-can-i-dl-bberry-os-4-5/51466/54): > > This was posted by a Moderator on NYF > > All private firearm sales require a NICS check starting 60 days from enactment. > > Dealer performing NICS check may not charge more than $10 fee. > > “Assault weapons” can be sold to someone in NY state who can legally own them for 1 year after enactment. > > “Assault weapons” can be sold to someone outside of NY state any time. Starting 1 year after enactment the sale must be reported. > > “Large capacity ammunition feeding devices” can be sold to someone in NY state who can legally own them for 1 year after enactment. > > Magazines up to 10 rounds in capacity can be loaded to their full 10 round capacity when at a duly incorporated indoor or outdoor shooting range or when at a competition under the auspices of the NRA or IHMSA. > > No magazine can be loaded with more than 7 rounds of ammunition except as noted above starting 60 days after enactment. > > Possession of a preban (1994 ban) magazine that holds more than 10 rounds is unlawful starting 60 days after enactment. This seems to conflict with the item that I wrote above that says you can sell them to someone in NY state for 1 year. I’m confused; I must understand some part of it wrong. > > Sales of ammo require a background check starting 1 year from enactment. I am unsure if this applies to private party sales as the definition of an ammunition seller is “SELLER OF AMMUNITION” MEANS ANY PERSON, FIRM, PARTNERSHIP, CORPO > RATION OR COMPANY WHO ENGAGES IN THE BUSINESS OF PURCHASING, SELLING OR > KEEPING AMMUNITION." Rep ---
**Author:** ![Sketchy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sketchy/32/6378_2.png) [@Sketchy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sketchy)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 5:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-laws-01-14-2013/266013/92 "2013-01-15T17:31:32Z")
> [@Standby Beer of Choice?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/standby-beer-of-choice/51505/37): > > Rep I should have put a clause he edited it that was his interpretation of the new law. Going back to edit now. ---
**Author:** ![capitalcrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e79b87/32.png) [@capitalcrew](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/capitalcrew)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 5:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-laws-01-14-2013/266013/93 "2013-01-15T17:32:57Z")
So it isn’t concrete? I will call a lgs tomorrow. ---
**Author:** ![JSEnclosures](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jsenclosures/32/6678_2.png) [@JSEnclosures](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JSEnclosures)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 5:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-laws-01-14-2013/266013/94 "2013-01-15T17:34:42Z")
So according to that you can still go into a gun store and buy an ar or other illegal gun for the next year? ---
**Author:** ![Boxersix](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxersix/32/6327_2.png) [@Boxersix](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boxersix)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 5:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-laws-01-14-2013/266013/95 "2013-01-15T17:40:57Z")
This is what i’m trying to decipher right now, and will be speaking with a lawyer on this once the dust settles over the next few days. Read this thread… [http://www.nyfirearms.com/forums/ar-15/41520-no-such-thing-compliant.html](http://www.nyfirearms.com/forums/ar-15/41520-no-such-thing-compliant.html) ---
**Author:** ![Sketchy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sketchy/32/6378_2.png) [@Sketchy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sketchy)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 5:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-laws-01-14-2013/266013/96 "2013-01-15T17:46:51Z")
> [@FS: 1998 Pontiac Trans Am WS6 M6](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-1998-pontiac-trans-am-ws6-m6/51370/15): > > So according to that you can still go into a gun store and buy an ar or other illegal gun for the next year? I dont think you can purchase from a LGS but you can purchase from a private seller??? ---
**Author:** ![v8lonoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/45deac/32.png) [@v8lonoma](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/v8lonoma)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 5:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-laws-01-14-2013/266013/97 "2013-01-15T17:48:46Z")
Word, no more need to pin stocks for the next year or more. Basically, if you’ve already owned the gun prior to today, you can make it as evil as you want but you have 1 year to register it. ---
**Author:** ![v8lonoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/45deac/32.png) [@v8lonoma](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/v8lonoma)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 5:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-laws-01-14-2013/266013/98 "2013-01-15T17:49:59Z")
> [@Buy.com](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buy-com/51504/10): > > So it isn’t concrete? I will call a lgs tomorrow. They don’t know, they aren’t lawyers. Call the state police or an attorney. 90% sure this is what a LGS employee will tell you also. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_123](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/justin_123/32/6478_2.png) [@Justin\_123](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Justin_123)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 6:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-laws-01-14-2013/266013/99 "2013-01-15T18:09:05Z")
[http://nysecond.org/](http://nysecond.org/) Sign up. ---
**Author:** ![Sketchy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sketchy/32/6378_2.png) [@Sketchy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sketchy)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 6:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-laws-01-14-2013/266013/100 "2013-01-15T18:19:19Z")
> [@smelly hat?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/smelly-hat/48620/21): > > [http://nysecond.org/](http://nysecond.org/) > > Sign up. Done [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-laws-01-14-2013/266013.md?page=4) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-laws-01-14-2013/266013.md?page=6)