# GWB really does have a way with words..... :roflwtfugh: **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [September 17, 2005, 9:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gwb-really-does-have-a-way-with-words-roflwtfugh/177117 "2005-09-17T09:01:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Petty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/71e660/32.png) [@Petty](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Petty)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2005, 7:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gwb-really-does-have-a-way-with-words-roflwtfugh/177117/101 "2005-09-20T07:25:24Z")
> [@Darkstar](#): > > bottom line is that VAST percentage of the tax breaks benefit the rich, and the small portion left over for the middle/lower class doesnt do anything for them. and it should. They dish out way more money! Man I hope the flat tax will someday go into effect! Then nobody can complain cause it will be the same percentage for everyone. ---
**Author:** ![HaNnIBaL64](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hannibal64/32/5954_2.png) [@HaNnIBaL64](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HaNnIBaL64)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2005, 7:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gwb-really-does-have-a-way-with-words-roflwtfugh/177117/102 "2005-09-20T07:28:07Z")
> [@Petty](#): > > and it should. They dish out way more money! Man I hope the flat tax will someday go into effect! Then nobody can complain cause it will be the same percentage for everyone. ok they pay more money but they also make more money to compensate. a flat tax rate would be perfect ---
**Author:** ![Darkstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@Darkstar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Darkstar)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2005, 7:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gwb-really-does-have-a-way-with-words-roflwtfugh/177117/103 "2005-09-20T07:28:07Z")
> [@Petty](#): > > plus when rich people get more money in their pockets they spend it…whether it’s remodeling, buying a yacht, anything…then the money they spend goes back into the economic machine. > > I know when I have more money I spend it. (I think thats my problem) > > I don’t understand why people can’t see the reasoning behind the tax cuts. People get to keep more money…chances are they spend more money…the Government gets more money too cause of the increase in tax revenue from people spending more money on goods and services. Mybe that “rich” guy will hire a new employee that he wouldn’t have if he didn’t get a tax cut. It’s ommon sense. > > Don’t be hating on rich people. They have worked for their money. Except for those instances when someone inherits money :-). But so what. This is a free country. Which means you can make as much money as you are willing to make. If someone can make more than you…quit crying about it and make some changes in your life! you’re way out in left field here man. Supply side economics (Reganomics) DOESNT FUCKING WORK! Giving millionaires a few hundred thousands extra is not gonna send them on a magical spending spree. And im not hating on rich people, but this country is so lopsided its not even funny. the top 20% control 80% of the money. The rich need to contribute more their fair share. ---
**Author:** ![Darkstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@Darkstar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Darkstar)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2005, 7:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gwb-really-does-have-a-way-with-words-roflwtfugh/177117/104 "2005-09-20T07:29:37Z")
> [@Petty](#): > > and it should. They dish out way more money! Man I hope the flat tax will someday go into effect! Then nobody can complain cause it will be the same percentage for everyone. 🤣 flat tax. that shit cracks me up. taxing a welfare mom the same as Bill Gates. Thats awesome. the rich should have to pay more than the poor. ---
**Author:** ![Petty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/71e660/32.png) [@Petty](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Petty)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2005, 7:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gwb-really-does-have-a-way-with-words-roflwtfugh/177117/105 "2005-09-20T07:30:46Z")
> [@HaNnIBaL64](#): > > so if we were growing up in the same school in the same area and i drove a ferrari and you drove a pinto, i lived in a mansion and you lived in a shack you wouldnt be upset? Honestly it would somtimes, but I would think to myself I have to work harder. It would actually be a motivating factor for me. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Darkstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@Darkstar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Darkstar)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2005, 7:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gwb-really-does-have-a-way-with-words-roflwtfugh/177117/106 "2005-09-20T07:33:06Z")
> [@Petty](#): > > Honestly it would somtimes, but I would think to myself I have to work harder. It would actually be a motivating factor for me. 🙂 what about the single mom working two jobs on food stamps who’s kids after school programs and health insurance are getting cut to give more money back to the rich? Maybe she should just work harder. ---
**Author:** ![HaNnIBaL64](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hannibal64/32/5954_2.png) [@HaNnIBaL64](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HaNnIBaL64)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2005, 7:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gwb-really-does-have-a-way-with-words-roflwtfugh/177117/107 "2005-09-20T07:33:56Z")
> [@Petty](#): > > Honestly it would somtimes, but I would think to myself I have to work harder. It would actually be a motivating factor for me. 🙂 yes and corporate america isnt based on who you know… tell me another one ---
**Author:** ![Darkstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@Darkstar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Darkstar)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2005, 7:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gwb-really-does-have-a-way-with-words-roflwtfugh/177117/108 "2005-09-20T07:37:37Z")
the rich shoud have to give more because they can afford to give more. Homeless vets, welfare moms, fuck, if you work full time at a minimum wage job you’ll still fall well below the poverty line. if you are born poor, the odds are stacked so highly against you already. Im far from a socialist too… ---
**Author:** ![Petty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/71e660/32.png) [@Petty](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Petty)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2005, 7:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gwb-really-does-have-a-way-with-words-roflwtfugh/177117/109 "2005-09-20T07:39:48Z")
> [@Darkstar](#): > > 🤣 > > flat tax. that shit cracks me up. taxing a welfare mom the same as Bill Gates. Thats awesome. the rich should have to pay more than the poor. Are you stupid. The rich do pay more than the poor Why should the rich have to pay more? Your punishing them for making more money? Why? Everybody cries about being equal. That is what the flat tax does. Bill gates pays 10%, I pay 10%. Beside the welfare moms don’t pay taxes…they get a check at the end of the year of $3k or something like that. ---
**Author:** ![Darkstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@Darkstar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Darkstar)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2005, 7:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gwb-really-does-have-a-way-with-words-roflwtfugh/177117/110 "2005-09-20T07:41:30Z")
> [@Petty](#): > > Are you stupid. The rich do pay more than the poor > > Why should the rich have to pay more? Your punishing them for making more money? Why? Everybody cries about being equal. That is what the flat tax does. Bill gates pays 10%, I pay 10%. Beside the welfare moms don’t pay taxes…they get a check at the end of the year of $3k or something like that. Steve Forbes and the flat tax would bankrupt this country in less than a decade. ---
**Author:** ![Petty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/71e660/32.png) [@Petty](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Petty)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2005, 7:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gwb-really-does-have-a-way-with-words-roflwtfugh/177117/111 "2005-09-20T07:42:10Z")
> [@Darkstar](#): > > the rich shoud have to give more because they can afford to give more. Homeless vets, welfare moms, fuck, if you work full time at a minimum wage job you’ll still fall well below the poverty line. if you are born poor, the odds are stacked so highly against you already. Im far from a socialist too… you don’t sound like your to far from socialist ---
**Author:** ![Darkstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@Darkstar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Darkstar)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2005, 7:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gwb-really-does-have-a-way-with-words-roflwtfugh/177117/112 "2005-09-20T07:44:18Z")
> [@Petty](#): > > you don’t sound like your to far from socialist redistribution of wealth. I dont think the UBER rich billionaires should be getting tax breaks when theres starving homeless people on the streets. ---
**Author:** ![Hycomp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Hycomp](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Hycomp)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2005, 7:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gwb-really-does-have-a-way-with-words-roflwtfugh/177117/113 "2005-09-20T07:49:05Z")
> [@Darkstar](#): > > make the taxes they are collecting sound good? Why the fuck would the IRS care? If we dont think the taxes are good do we not have to pay them? Since when has the IRS been worried about its PR? Enough to put bald faced lies on its website? Why dont you come up with some links yourself? I’m sure you’ll be able to find plenty of them, since im just spewing misinformation and all that. Perhaps if you would learn to read or at least comprehend more than one sentence at a time you might finally get a clue. The 2% remark on the IRS website is their approximate of the amount of the population that has to cut the IRS a check every year as a result of the tax. The businesses (the farms were an example) that have to be sold/shut down as a result “affect” much more than the 2% that have to pay the tax. ---
**Author:** ![Sight\_N\_Sound](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sight_n_sound/32/5950_2.png) [@Sight\_N\_Sound](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sight_N_Sound)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2005, 8:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gwb-really-does-have-a-way-with-words-roflwtfugh/177117/114 "2005-09-20T08:23:44Z")
> [@Darkstar](#): > > 🤣 > > flat tax. that shit cracks me up. taxing a welfare mom the same as Bill Gates. Thats awesome. the rich should have to pay more than the poor. Actually a flat tax would be better because all those low life mother fuckers on welfare _THAT_ roll aroudn in mercades and hummers would still have to pay the taxes. Sorry but if you can afford the latest “toys” and the newest 200 dollar nikes while on wellfare somthing is fucked up. ---
**Author:** ![Storamin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9fc348/32.png) [@Storamin](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Storamin)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2005, 8:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gwb-really-does-have-a-way-with-words-roflwtfugh/177117/115 "2005-09-20T08:28:46Z")
Darkstar… you libertarians make me laugh. ---
**Author:** ![Sight\_N\_Sound](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sight_n_sound/32/5950_2.png) [@Sight\_N\_Sound](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sight_N_Sound)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2005, 8:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gwb-really-does-have-a-way-with-words-roflwtfugh/177117/116 "2005-09-20T08:29:24Z")
> [@Darkstar](#): > > the rich shoud have to give more because they can afford to give more. Homeless vets, welfare moms, fuck, if you work full time at a minimum wage job you’ll still fall well below the poverty line. if you are born poor, the odds are stacked so highly against you already. Im far from a socialist too… This is such a bullshit statement its up there along the lines of “Po’ black people can’t get an edgumecation”. Poorer people have more opertunties when it comes down to what they get. Go out work you ass off in school and make somthing of yourself. People like you (DS) with the view that once your poor or born poor you have a hard time getting out is bullshit and not helping the situation any. If your not willing to work for what you want I don’t know what to tell you, its not just going to get handed to you. America = Land of freedom not Land of free money which is the way society views it anymore. Gimme gimme gimme… ---
**Author:** ![77rednecktruck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/77rednecktruck/32/5966_2.png) [@77rednecktruck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/77rednecktruck)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2005, 8:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gwb-really-does-have-a-way-with-words-roflwtfugh/177117/117 "2005-09-20T08:36:37Z")
> [@Sight N Sound](#): > > This is such a bullshit statement its up there along the lines of “Po’ black people can’t get an edgumecation”. > > Poorer people have more opertunties when it comes down to what they get. Go out work you ass off in school and make somthing of yourself. > > People like you (DS) with the view that once your poor or born poor you have a hard time getting out is bullshit and not helping the situation any. If your not willing to work for what you want I don’t know what to tell you, its not just going to get handed to you. > > America = Land of freedom not Land of free money which is the way society views it anymore. Gimme gimme gimme… it’s sad to say, but I agree with this 100%. I hate the fact that people complain when they are not handed something for free. I seem to agree with the republican side but I cannot stand our current president. :dunno: ---
**Author:** ![Sight\_N\_Sound](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sight_n_sound/32/5950_2.png) [@Sight\_N\_Sound](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sight_N_Sound)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2005, 8:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gwb-really-does-have-a-way-with-words-roflwtfugh/177117/118 "2005-09-20T08:37:44Z")
> [@Darkstar](#): > > redistribution of wealth. I dont think the UBER rich billionaires should be getting tax breaks when theres starving homeless people on the streets. the unber rich billionares make up less than 1% of the population… :rolleyes: here is a break down of the poplations income… ---
**Author:** ![fshowcars](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fshowcars/32/5937_2.png) [@fshowcars](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fshowcars)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2005, 1:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gwb-really-does-have-a-way-with-words-roflwtfugh/177117/119 "2005-09-20T13:29:23Z")
> [@Darkstar](#): > > what about the single mom working two jobs on food stamps who’s kids after school programs and health insurance are getting cut to give more money back to the rich? Maybe she should just work harder. you’re such a fuck nut… i open this thread and just read one sentence from you and you’re back to the shit about the ‘rich’… wtf dude. next you’ll be talking about the woman’s ‘glass ceiling’ instead of her having two illegitimate children and relying on the governemt to pay their way… i honstely wish i had the time to read all the inaccuracies in this thread and harp on them all… but i’ll just post quick. what fuckin after school programs, that have been cut, give MONEY to the RICH? :wtf: and whose health insurance was CUT? … i’d love to hear this one… but as you’re eluding to taxation to ‘help’ the rich… let me just educate you on simple FACTS. our of the top 1 percent that pay taxes (rich) how much of total taxation to they pay for? 32% now out of the top 10 percent, how much of total taxes do they pay? 62.4 % and what is the minimum amount of yearly income that one has to make to be in the top 10 percentile???.. 75k a year… so with the top 10% paying 62% of the taxes, you’re damn straight that a tax cut is going to benefit ‘the rich’ as we define ‘rich’… so if you want to tlak about taxes, bring it up… don’t just arbitrarily use ‘after school programs and health insurance cuts’ to ‘giving more money back to the rich’ could you possibly have a more dilluted understanding of how things work? ---
**Author:** ![taco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@taco](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/taco)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2005, 1:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gwb-really-does-have-a-way-with-words-roflwtfugh/177117/120 "2005-09-20T13:35:09Z")
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