# Gym goers... best food Pre-gym **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [April 21, 2008, 9:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gym-goers-best-food-pre-gym/47167 "2008-04-21T09:49:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2008, 10:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gym-goers-best-food-pre-gym/47167/21 "2008-04-21T10:57:28Z")
ok, I should elaborate in that I’m not empty… I’ll eat at 3pm and lift at 6.30pm most days so it’s not like I’m hungry when I arrive at the gym - I just haven’t had anything extra. of all the things that I’ve ever done to lose weight… nothing has worked as well as running in the morning then eating a big breakfast. I’m talking a massive difference compared to running a couple hours after breakfast. I basically borrowed “a little bit” of that logic to my pre-workout strategy. I can’t say it’s been affective or not, but I’m willing to listen to arguments. the last think I want to happen is that I double my lifting abilty and gain a large gut. ---
**Author:** ![cougarspeed](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cougarspeed/32/7468_2.png) [@cougarspeed](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cougarspeed)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2008, 11:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gym-goers-best-food-pre-gym/47167/22 "2008-04-21T11:04:06Z")
Whatever floats your boat homie just remember when debating opinions you are simply debating but when you are debating soething with factual backing one person is right and one person is wrong. I say what i say based off of tons of research and the fact that well i look great naked. ---
**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2008, 11:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gym-goers-best-food-pre-gym/47167/23 "2008-04-21T11:07:33Z")
I was stating what I did and hoping for advice, not debating. ---
**Author:** ![sureshot](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sureshot/32/7578_2.png) [@sureshot](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sureshot)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2008, 11:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gym-goers-best-food-pre-gym/47167/24 "2008-04-21T11:10:27Z")
Ladies, ladies… You have three options 1. Get bigger muscles 2. Get a smaller waist 3. Get bigger muscles with a smaller waist If you choose option 3, you are going to make much slower progress than everyone else. So which is it? 1, 2, 3? ---
**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2008, 11:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gym-goers-best-food-pre-gym/47167/25 "2008-04-21T11:11:49Z")
I’m a solid option 3… and the worst part is that I know it doesn’t work. but overall I am seeing solid progress, even though it’s not the fastest. ---
**Author:** ![sureshot](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sureshot/32/7578_2.png) [@sureshot](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sureshot)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2008, 11:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gym-goers-best-food-pre-gym/47167/26 "2008-04-21T11:18:01Z")
Well, you will make progress in the beginning, maybe 4-6 months, but after that it’s gonna be one big plateau that you won’t get over. Unless you use some supplements, which will help… but you should only resort to those till you have hit a big roadblock. Anyways, if you are running in the morning and lifting in the evening, you are probably in better health than you were before anyways. Try and get you bF% measured, as any weight fluctuations aren’t going to give you an accurate reading of your “progress”. Also, lose the isolation lifts, learn how to do the heavy, compound lifts and learn an Olympic lift. If you are deadset on option 3, these are the only friends in the gym you have~ ---
**Author:** ![Zer0DazE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zer0daze/32/7624_2.png) [@Zer0DazE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zer0DazE)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2008, 11:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gym-goers-best-food-pre-gym/47167/27 "2008-04-21T11:28:06Z")
EC and Havok i could eat it for 3 meals a day 🙂 my 4th ends up as beer or just a can/pack of tuna > [@cougarspeed](#): > > Bad logic seeing as it takes up to two hours of sustained cardio to actually deplete glycogen stores enough to be “buning fat”. Most of your body recomp is done on the recovery and without proper pre nutrition to give you the fuel you need you are in fact hurting your results including fat burning. Please do not spread this advice. > > To do just cardio on an empty stomach is acceptable by some and even that is debatable by most but you should not be lifting in depleated state. if someone were eating “clean”, CKD, or TKD they would be burning fat all the time. ---
**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2008, 11:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gym-goers-best-food-pre-gym/47167/28 "2008-04-21T11:34:05Z")
> [@sureshot!](#): > > Well, you will make progress in the beginning, maybe 4-6 months, but after that it’s gonna be one big plateau that you won’t get over. Unless you use some supplements, which will help… but you should only resort to those till you have hit a big roadblock. > > Anyways, if you are running in the morning and lifting in the evening, you are probably in better health than you were before anyways. Try and get you bF% measured, as any weight fluctuations aren’t going to give you an accurate reading of your “progress”. > > Also, lose the isolation lifts, learn how to do the heavy, compound lifts and learn an Olympic lift. If you are deadset on option 3, these are the only friends in the gym you have~ two years ago I was 175lbs. 16%bf today I’m 175lbs. 12%bf (but I’ve been as low a 10% during) I really lack the interest / self control to eat better and not drink beer etc… and you hit the nail on the head - I’m plateaued big time benching around 200lbs. I didn’t start seriously squatting until about 6 months ago and I’m growing my leg strength like crazy currently. ---
**Author:** ![sureshot](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sureshot/32/7578_2.png) [@sureshot](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sureshot)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2008, 11:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gym-goers-best-food-pre-gym/47167/29 "2008-04-21T11:36:03Z")
> [@Zer0DazE](#): > > Havok Epitiostanol is crazy shit. I took Epi for 4 weeks last year with ridiculous results. ---
**Author:** ![sureshot](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sureshot/32/7578_2.png) [@sureshot](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sureshot)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2008, 11:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gym-goers-best-food-pre-gym/47167/30 "2008-04-21T11:43:50Z")
> [@theblue](#): > > two years ago I was 175lbs. 16%bf > today I’m 175lbs. 12%bf (but I’ve been as low a 10% during) > > I really lack the interest / self control to eat better and not drink beer etc… > > and you hit the nail on the head - I’m plateaued big time benching around 200lbs. I didn’t start seriously squatting until about 6 months ago and I’m growing my leg strength like crazy currently. If you are really at 12% you are a lot better off than I originally anticipated. We all weigh our desires and motivations on a scale, and as long as we are comfortable with the balance, there is nothing wrong with it. Not everyone wants to eat only chicken/rice/brocoli everyday and I wouldn’t blame them at all if they didn’t. There is a point that everyone reaches where they have to ask themselves “Is it really worth it?” I’m surprised you are plateau’d there, the jump from 185 to 225 is usually pretty quick for most people as the desire to throw 2 plates on is really strong. Anyways, when i was having problems pushing more weight, I really started blasting my lats hard, but not with pulldowns or vertical movements, but instead horizontal movements that mimic’d the reverse of the benching motion. This included mainly heavy sets of T-Bar rows and other rows. Lastly, remember we all mainly grow on the eccentric part of the lift! ---
**Author:** ![chino](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bcef8e/32.png) [@chino](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/chino)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2008, 12:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gym-goers-best-food-pre-gym/47167/31 "2008-04-21T12:11:31Z")
are we ever going to get a gay subforum for the meatheads to talk about protein shakes, power bars and compare pictures of themselves greased up ? i think there is more discussion on nyspeed about bodybuilding and girlfriend breakups than cars :gay: ---
**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2008, 12:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gym-goers-best-food-pre-gym/47167/32 "2008-04-21T12:16:35Z")
[You are here](http://www.nyspeed.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=9) ---
**Author:** ![cougarspeed](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cougarspeed/32/7468_2.png) [@cougarspeed](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cougarspeed)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2008, 12:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gym-goers-best-food-pre-gym/47167/33 "2008-04-21T12:18:46Z")
**ALL HAIL THE MIGHTY MULTIQUOTE!!!** Sorry i was actually at the gym. > [@theblue](#): > > I was stating what I did and hoping for advice, not debating. I was just being a dickhead hahah. > [@sureshot!](#): > > Ladies, ladies… > > You have three options > > 1. Get bigger muscles > 2. Get a smaller waist > 3. Get bigger muscles with a smaller waist > > If you choose option 3, you are going to make much slower progress than everyone else. > > So which is it? 1, 2, 3? 1 during the winter months then 2 right before summer DURRR. > [@Zer0DazE](#): > > EC and Havok > > i could eat it for 3 meals a day 🙂 > > my 4th ends up as beer Ugh i did Havoc for 40 days and it kinda f-ed me up. Did you use a PCT with it? I didn’t and my libido was shot(thank god im in Iraq anyhow lol) and my moods were terrible. It took me about 6 weeks to recover. But my gains were badass!!! > [@sureshot!](#): > > If you are really at 12% you are a lot better off than I originally anticipated. IDK i dont see someone over 170lbs 12%BF being plateaued at that type of weight. Pics or ban! > [@chino](#): > > are we ever going to get a gay subforum for the meatheads to talk about protein shakes, power bars and compare pictures of themselves greased up ? > > i think there is more discussion on nyspeed about bodybuilding and girlfriend breakups than cars :gay: Sad but true. So you want my latest set of nudes? ---
**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2008, 12:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gym-goers-best-food-pre-gym/47167/34 "2008-04-21T12:22:44Z")
I got a little room to grow, I think my biggest barrier is that I’m intimidated by anything \> 185. I also happen to have a lot of lower back and rotator cuff injuries due to previous bad form. ---
**Author:** ![sureshot](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sureshot/32/7578_2.png) [@sureshot](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sureshot)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2008, 12:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gym-goers-best-food-pre-gym/47167/35 "2008-04-21T12:23:04Z")
> [@cougarspeed](#): > > Ugh i did Havoc for 40 days and it kinda f-ed me up. Did you use a PCT with it? I didn’t and my libido was shot(thank god im in Iraq anyhow lol) and my moods were terrible. It took me about 6 weeks to recover. But my gains were badass!!! Toremifene, dummy. ---
**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2008, 12:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gym-goers-best-food-pre-gym/47167/36 "2008-04-21T12:27:59Z")
> [@cougarspeed](#): > > I didn’t and my libido was shot(thank god im in Iraq anyhow lol) god… there is a great zing! in this but I just can’t get it out. fuck. ---
**Author:** ![cougarspeed](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cougarspeed/32/7468_2.png) [@cougarspeed](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cougarspeed)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2008, 12:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gym-goers-best-food-pre-gym/47167/37 "2008-04-21T12:32:07Z")
> [@sureshot!](#): > > Toremifene, dummy. I don’t know what i was thinking. > [@Nikuk](#): > > god… there is a great zing! in this but I just can’t get it out. fuck. It is a great setup man i know you can come up with something good. But on serious nte it sucked and i was really nervous, i learned from that mistake to say the least. ---
**Author:** ![sureshot](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sureshot/32/7578_2.png) [@sureshot](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sureshot)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2008, 12:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gym-goers-best-food-pre-gym/47167/38 "2008-04-21T12:32:47Z")
> [@theblue](#): > > I got a little room to grow, I think my biggest barrier is that I’m intimidated by anything \> 185. I also happen to have a lot of lower back and rotator cuff injuries due to previous bad form. Gay. This for your rotator cuff: [DC’s Shoulder Fix](http://www.intensemuscle.com/6997-how-cure-shoulder-problems-trust-me-will-do-90-time.html) Are you benching with your elbows tucked and shoulder blades dug into the bench? It took me a little while to change, but once I moved from the elbows out to the elbows in method, I eventually was able to bench more, properly. Why not try benching 190? there are those 2.5lb plates for a reason 😛 ---
**Author:** ![cougarspeed](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cougarspeed/32/7468_2.png) [@cougarspeed](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cougarspeed)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2008, 12:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gym-goers-best-food-pre-gym/47167/39 "2008-04-21T12:33:31Z")
WAIT wasn’t there supposed to be abefore and after pics thread? WTF i was really looking forward to posting up some nudes. ---
**Author:** ![cougarspeed](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cougarspeed/32/7468_2.png) [@cougarspeed](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cougarspeed)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2008, 12:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gym-goers-best-food-pre-gym/47167/40 "2008-04-21T12:35:59Z")
theblue if you are serious about help i can e-mail you my routine if you want. But some of it is kinda complicated and i would have to spend some time explaining things and such. So I am not sending it unless you are 100% certain you are going to follow it and report back benching 300+ ASAP. BTW it is not a strength routine. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gym-goers-best-food-pre-gym/47167.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gym-goers-best-food-pre-gym/47167.md?page=3)