# H22 \> all **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Off Topic\ **Created:** [June 5, 2008, 7:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/h22-all/237289 "2008-06-05T19:24:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Cliff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b38774/32.png) [@Cliff](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cliff)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2008, 7:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/h22-all/237289/1 "2008-06-05T19:24:49Z")
> [@Mafdark](#): > > This car is for turning. I dont need to add 200 pounds to the front end. :nono How are you adding 200lbs to the front end?? Don’t hate, educate. [www.honda-tech.com](http://www.honda-tech.com) ---
**Author:** ![Mafdark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mafdark/32/6322_2.png) [@Mafdark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mafdark)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2008, 7:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/h22-all/237289/2 "2008-06-05T19:26:28Z")
> [@Cliff](#): > > How are you adding 200lbs to the front end?? > > Don’t hate, educate. [www.honda-tech.com](http://www.honda-tech.com) H22 is not only a good 100 pounds heavier than my D (Ok I exaggerated, you caught me) but it also sit farther forward of the front wheels. :nod ---
**Author:** ![Cliff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b38774/32.png) [@Cliff](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cliff)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2008, 8:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/h22-all/237289/3 "2008-06-05T20:10:57Z")
> [@Mafdark](#): > > H22 is not only a good 100 pounds heavier than my D (Ok I exaggerated, you caught me) but it also sit farther forward of the front wheels. :nod Threads on HT all about this. It’s only 35lbs heavier than a D series I believe. Relocate your battery to the rear trunk and that’ll help even things out. ;p ---
**Author:** ![LKSi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/lksi/32/6316_2.png) [@LKSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LKSi)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2008, 8:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/h22-all/237289/4 "2008-06-05T20:14:03Z")
The H22 is 35lbs heavier than the B series, not the D. Either way… K20 sol wins ---
**Author:** ![Cliff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b38774/32.png) [@Cliff](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cliff)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2008, 8:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/h22-all/237289/5 "2008-06-05T20:46:59Z")
> [@LKSwhy?](#): > > The H22 is 35lbs heavier than the B series, not the D. Either way… K20 sol wins Oh woops, I just read the weight difference thread. You’re right. But H2B sol wins. ;p ---
**Author:** ![K20power](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/41988e/32.png) [@K20power](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/K20power)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2008, 9:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/h22-all/237289/6 "2008-06-05T21:16:49Z")
> [@Cliff](#): > > Oh woops, I just read the weight difference thread. You’re right. But H2B sol wins. ;p What is with you with the H2B swaps? Do you have one? if so i’ll race you and make your H2B look like ass. ---
**Author:** ![freakLS7](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/freakls7/32/6298_2.png) [@freakLS7](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/freakLS7)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2008, 7:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/h22-all/237289/7 "2008-06-06T07:46:15Z")
> [@K20powerz](#): > > What is with you with the H2B swaps? Do you have one? if so i’ll race you and make your H2B look like ass. :crackup ---
**Author:** ![Cliff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b38774/32.png) [@Cliff](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cliff)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2008, 1:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/h22-all/237289/8 "2008-06-06T13:19:28Z")
> [@K20powerz](#): > > What is with you with the H2B swaps? Do you have one? if so i’ll race you and make your H2B look like ass. You are such a fucking clown, seriously man. You just made yourself look like an ass, great job. ---
**Author:** ![K20power](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/41988e/32.png) [@K20power](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/K20power)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2008, 1:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/h22-all/237289/9 "2008-06-06T13:50:47Z")
> [@Cliff](#): > > You are such a fucking clown, seriously man. You just made yourself look like an ass, great job. Word? :🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Jeremiah](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jeremiah/32/6318_2.png) [@Jeremiah](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jeremiah)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2008, 2:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/h22-all/237289/10 "2008-06-06T14:38:46Z")
> [@K20powerz](#): > > if so i’ll race you and make your H2B look like ass. Most assenign thing I’ve read on here in a while…and there’s been some super-retarded shit. ---
**Author:** ![K20power](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/41988e/32.png) [@K20power](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/K20power)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2008, 2:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/h22-all/237289/11 "2008-06-06T14:42:27Z")
> [@Jeremiah](#): > > Most assenign thing I’ve read on here in a while…and there’s been some super-retarded shit. And Cliff making the H2B sound like it’s a HUGE bargain, budget friendly, super fast swap isn’t super retarded?. When in fact, the H2B doesn’t react to mods nearly as well as the K does, requires close to the same amount of money, and about the same amount of work. I just asked if he has a H2B swap and if so, i’d be willing to run and see if his statements are accurate. ---
**Author:** ![Cliff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b38774/32.png) [@Cliff](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cliff)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2008, 6:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/h22-all/237289/12 "2008-06-06T18:47:56Z")
> [@K20powerz](#): > > And Cliff making the H2B sound like it’s a HUGE bargain, budget friendly, super fast swap isn’t super retarded?. When in fact, the H2B doesn’t react to mods nearly as well as the K does, requires close to the same amount of money, and about the same amount of work. > > I just asked if he has a H2B swap and if so, i’d be willing to run and see if his statements are accurate. Requires close to the same amount of money? Seriously man, you’re whacked. ---
**Author:** ![Swifty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@Swifty](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Swifty)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2008, 2:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/h22-all/237289/13 "2008-06-11T14:21:40Z")
whoa how did i miss this post for a week??! :confused i like H series… everyones setups are always different so its hard to compare, they arent that much heavier than the smaller B and D series, but they are pretty squeezed into the engine bay. ---
**Author:** ![SlackJ94](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/slackj94/32/6325_2.png) [@SlackJ94](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SlackJ94)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2008, 4:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/h22-all/237289/14 "2008-06-11T16:17:00Z")
> [@K20powerz](#): > > And Cliff making the H2B sound like it’s a HUGE bargain, budget friendly, super fast swap isn’t super retarded?. When in fact, the H2B doesn’t react to mods nearly as well as the K does, requires close to the same amount of money, and about the same amount of work. > > I just asked if he has a H2B swap and if so, i’d be willing to run and see if his statements are accurate. Wrong. Totally wrong. H22A long block: 1200 H22 mount kit: ~400 Tranny plate: ~700 Axels: 150-300 Total: 2450-2600 + labor (I kno he has a D in his car. There are kits that are H2D) K20A2 with tranny: 4000 K mount kit: ~400 Axels: 150-300 Total: 4550-4700 + labor 4700-2600 = 2100 to spend on mods that will make the H blow the doors off the K. SMSP Header: 1000 Exhaust: 300-450 (exhaust shop, no kit crap, none of them are large enuff) Euro R IM: 500 ([roskoracing.com](http://roskoracing.com)) Ebay CAI: 50 Basic Tuning: ~500 Total: 2350-2400 2400+2600 = 5000 For 300 bucks more you have a car that will put down roughly 200 **w** hp and 170 **w** tq. More with a good tuner. Stock K20A2: 200 **c** hp I took engine prices from HMO, hardly anyone gets prices like you did, so you can’t go by those prices. ---
**Author:** ![Mafdark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mafdark/32/6322_2.png) [@Mafdark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mafdark)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2008, 4:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/h22-all/237289/15 "2008-06-11T16:23:59Z")
Yet I already have a block that can blow the doors off a K as well as turn better than the H. :sleep ---
**Author:** ![cazwrx187](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cazwrx187/32/6388_2.png) [@cazwrx187](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cazwrx187)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2008, 4:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/h22-all/237289/16 "2008-06-11T16:36:58Z")
The K20’s and H22 are both nice but its always nice seeing someone keeping the SOHC alive. In Mafdarks situation, it is very much alive. ;D ---
**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2008, 6:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/h22-all/237289/17 "2008-06-11T18:36:33Z")
You guys spend ridiculous amounts of money on swaps that produce dick for power. ---
**Author:** ![SlackJ94](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/slackj94/32/6325_2.png) [@SlackJ94](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SlackJ94)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2008, 7:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/h22-all/237289/18 "2008-06-11T19:00:02Z")
> [@Mafdark](#): > > Yet I already have a block that can blow the doors off a K as well as turn better than the H. :sleep Truth. I wouldn’t swap anything out of your car. I was just showing Joe that he is wrong. > [@Shawn96VR-4](#): > > You guys spend ridiculous amounts of money on swaps that produce dick for power. Don’t need much power when you are light. But you are right. ---
**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2008, 7:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/h22-all/237289/19 "2008-06-11T19:22:56Z")
> [@SlackJ94](#): > > Don’t need much power when you are light. But you are right. I agree but I am just looking at what you get for the money and the power : $ ratio sucks. ---
**Author:** ![LKSi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/lksi/32/6316_2.png) [@LKSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LKSi)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2008, 7:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/h22-all/237289/20 "2008-06-11T19:25:21Z")
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