# happy holidays. be safe... and dont be naieve(?) **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [December 20, 2009, 3:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/happy-holidays-be-safe-and-dont-be-naieve/77432 "2009-12-20T15:42:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![SkunkApe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/skunkape/32/7575_2.png) [@SkunkApe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SkunkApe)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2009, 5:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/happy-holidays-be-safe-and-dont-be-naieve/77432/41 "2009-12-21T05:51:30Z")
holy shit howie… im really sorry to hear about this. ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2009, 5:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/happy-holidays-be-safe-and-dont-be-naieve/77432/42 "2009-12-21T05:51:50Z")
Wow that sucks glad everyone is safe… All you people who mention owning guns…Who is going to open the door with shotgun in hand? ---
**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2009, 5:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/happy-holidays-be-safe-and-dont-be-naieve/77432/43 "2009-12-21T05:52:13Z")
> [@SkunkApe](#): > > are you’re parents ok? are you are ---
**Author:** ![SkunkApe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/skunkape/32/7575_2.png) [@SkunkApe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SkunkApe)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2009, 5:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/happy-holidays-be-safe-and-dont-be-naieve/77432/44 "2009-12-21T05:53:17Z")
> [@newman](#): > > are you are ugh…ive never incorrectly typed that before… its too early…i removed it though ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2009, 5:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/happy-holidays-be-safe-and-dont-be-naieve/77432/45 "2009-12-21T05:54:41Z")
> [@LZ](#): > > Wow that sucks glad everyone is safe… > > All you people who mention owning guns…Who is going to open the door with shotgun in hand? Well, if 3 spanish looking dudes were knocking on my door in Williamsville… /racism. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![9c1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/9c1/32/7392_2.png) [@9c1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/9c1)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2009, 6:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/happy-holidays-be-safe-and-dont-be-naieve/77432/46 "2009-12-21T06:03:57Z")
So sorry to hear about this Howie. Good to hear your parents are OK. Everything else is replacable. Good idea with all of the new security measures. I hope everything works out well for you and your family. ---
**Author:** ![Geehee](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/geehee/32/7238_2.png) [@Geehee](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Geehee)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2009, 6:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/happy-holidays-be-safe-and-dont-be-naieve/77432/47 "2009-12-21T06:11:36Z")
ugh sorry to hear man. ---
**Author:** ![walter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/walter/32/7202_2.png) [@walter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/walter)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2009, 6:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/happy-holidays-be-safe-and-dont-be-naieve/77432/48 "2009-12-21T06:14:10Z")
Crazy man, glad to hear everyone was ok. It has been my experience that even if you aren’t home a break in really robs your sense of security, I could only imagine being robbed via knife point and tied up. ---
**Author:** ![ultradriver10000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ultradriver10000/32/7397_2.png) [@ultradriver10000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ultradriver10000)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2009, 6:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/happy-holidays-be-safe-and-dont-be-naieve/77432/49 "2009-12-21T06:27:29Z")
> [@LZ](#): > > All you people who mention owning guns…Who is going to open the door with shotgun in hand? I carry my pistol from the moment I get dressed in the morning, why have a gun if you’re in no situation to use it? Like you said though, who answers the door with a shottie. I feel really bad for your parents emotional state. While it wouldn’t really bother me, I could see how insecure it could make them feel. I try to tell my wife to not answer the door and to watch over her shoulder all the time, but these things do happen. Good luck man, I’m assuming you have all the help you need, but if you need a beer I’ll be home for the holidays. ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2009, 6:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/happy-holidays-be-safe-and-dont-be-naieve/77432/50 "2009-12-21T06:31:24Z")
> [@ultradriver10000](#): > > I carry my pistol from the moment I get dressed in the morning, why have a gun if you’re in no situation to use it? You live in Texas… ---
**Author:** ![ultradriver10000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ultradriver10000/32/7397_2.png) [@ultradriver10000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ultradriver10000)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2009, 6:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/happy-holidays-be-safe-and-dont-be-naieve/77432/51 "2009-12-21T06:32:26Z")
> [@LZ](#): > > You live in Texas… I also have my permit for NYS. I think I can carry in something like 35-38 states. I’ve got a map around here somewhere that shows where I’m good. It takes forever in NYS but it is worth it as they are good forever. Plus now I’m a fucking cowboy! ---
**Author:** ![dubbin91](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecccb3/32.png) [@dubbin91](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dubbin91)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2009, 6:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/happy-holidays-be-safe-and-dont-be-naieve/77432/52 "2009-12-21T06:57:48Z")
> [@ultradriver10000](#): > > This is why I’m really thinking about upgrading my .22 cal carry gun to a 9mm at least. I wouldn’t carry anything less than a .38. I think that would be wise. Sorry to hear. I would def. get the 870, and even train your parents hot to use it. Maybe buy a 20 gauge so your mom can handle it a little better. ---
**Author:** ![08GT500](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/08gt500/32/5417_2.png) [@08GT500](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/08GT500)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2009, 7:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/happy-holidays-be-safe-and-dont-be-naieve/77432/53 "2009-12-21T07:20:42Z")
Unfortunate to hear man. You cannot go wrong with the 870, try picking up the HD model. Yes, no one answers the door during the day time with buckshot in hand but I certainty have either my xd40 or 870 at my side when answering the door after dark. Couple the security/awareness of having a dog and shotgun, you will be the one with an advantage. Rifles are next to useless in close quarters unless you want sight the bastard running away. Glad to hear your folks are ok. That’s what really matters. ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2009, 7:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/happy-holidays-be-safe-and-dont-be-naieve/77432/54 "2009-12-21T07:29:10Z")
wow that’s fucking scary, hope you all are alright and can enjoy your holidays still the gun idea…it’s stupid. i don’t mean to get graphic, but if howie’s dad came downstairs with a shotgun while they had his mother held down, that could have ended badly. A dog is an awesome safeguard. My dog is a giant pussy, and his bark will scare of 95% of people that come to my house. Cable guys and other workers usually ask me to put him outside or in another room. ---
**Author:** ![Zong](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zong/32/7580_2.png) [@Zong](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zong)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2009, 8:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/happy-holidays-be-safe-and-dont-be-naieve/77432/55 "2009-12-21T08:16:20Z")
what the FUCK ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Bucker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bucker/32/7379_2.png) [@Bucker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bucker)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2009, 8:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/happy-holidays-be-safe-and-dont-be-naieve/77432/56 "2009-12-21T08:17:18Z")
> [@LZ](#): > > Wow that sucks glad everyone is safe… > > All you people who mention owning guns…Who is going to open the door with shotgun in hand? I carry. My gun isnt necessarily on me all the time at home, but it is easily accesible and my wife is almost as good a shot as me. If someone comes in, one of us will be ready with one of our guns. ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2009, 9:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/happy-holidays-be-safe-and-dont-be-naieve/77432/57 "2009-12-21T09:15:10Z")
So where was this Howie? NYC or WNY? The best thing about a dog is the attacker can’t get from you and then use it on you. lol ---
**Author:** ![JSTANEON](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jstaneon/32/7267_2.png) [@JSTANEON](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JSTANEON)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2009, 9:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/happy-holidays-be-safe-and-dont-be-naieve/77432/58 "2009-12-21T09:16:13Z")
wow…thats nuts. Glad your mom and dad were not injured. Hopefully they got a really good look at the faces and the police can find those lowlifes. ---
**Author:** ![Vrooom](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vrooom/32/7198_2.png) [@Vrooom](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vrooom)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2009, 9:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/happy-holidays-be-safe-and-dont-be-naieve/77432/59 "2009-12-21T09:30:49Z")
> [@walter](#): > > **It has been my experience that even if you aren’t home a break in really robs your sense of security** , I could only imagine being robbed via knife point and tied up. My neighbor’s house was broken into a month or two back in the middle of the day. Whoever broke in ripped the stove from the wall in the kitchen, cut the gas line and placed a lit candle on the stove (I guess in hopes to blow the house up…?). Pretty freaky shit. After weeks of sitting on his back patio alone in the dark every night, he put his house up for sale last week. ---
**Author:** ![JMEZZI](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/67e7ee/32.png) [@JMEZZI](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JMEZZI)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2009, 11:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/happy-holidays-be-safe-and-dont-be-naieve/77432/60 "2009-12-21T11:33:59Z")
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