# Has anyone have an idea how this works?

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**Created:** [October 28, 2008, 5:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/has-anyone-have-an-idea-how-this-works/119485 "2008-10-28T05:32:50Z")\
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**Post date:** [October 28, 2008, 5:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/has-anyone-have-an-idea-how-this-works/119485/1 "2008-10-28T05:32:50Z")

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> **[No conviction if fine wrong, court rules | The Star](https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2008/05/31/no_conviction_if_fine_wrong_court_rules.html)**
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> If you're charged with speeding or other provincial offences, avoiding a conviction could be as easy as checking the fine on your ticket.

  
Any advice will be helpful  
thanks alot

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**Post date:** [October 28, 2008, 5:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/has-anyone-have-an-idea-how-this-works/119485/2 "2008-10-28T05:34:37Z")

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It means, if the officer doesn’t fill out the an initial fine amount. It’s an invalid ticket.

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**Post date:** [October 28, 2008, 5:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/has-anyone-have-an-idea-how-this-works/119485/3 "2008-10-28T05:47:32Z")

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It means that you should cross reference your ticket fee with “the Ontario court of Justice website…or ask a paralegal” . If the amount indicated on the ticket does not match prescribed rates… its deemed not to be complete.

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**Post date:** [October 28, 2008, 5:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/has-anyone-have-an-idea-how-this-works/119485/4 "2008-10-28T05:59:39Z")

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so if i got a ticket of speeding of 129km in 100km what should my total payable be?

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**Post date:** [October 28, 2008, 6:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/has-anyone-have-an-idea-how-this-works/119485/5 "2008-10-28T06:13:41Z")

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It will say that on the ticket… Total Payable.

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**Post date:** [October 28, 2008, 7:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/has-anyone-have-an-idea-how-this-works/119485/6 "2008-10-28T07:27:55Z")

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thats the whole point of this, if the total payable doesnt match prescribed rates, it is not “complete”, so im trying to find out what the proper charge is

thanks

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**Post date:** [October 28, 2008, 9:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/has-anyone-have-an-idea-how-this-works/119485/7 "2008-10-28T09:24:45Z")

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furthermore is this considered “fatal error” and what happens if i have filed for a court date, how do i go about wininig this case? thanks alot guys

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**Post date:** [October 28, 2008, 11:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/has-anyone-have-an-idea-how-this-works/119485/8 "2008-10-28T11:18:13Z")

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In theory, according to the article you posted, if the total payable is incorrect then the ticket is invalid… I’m not sure how much yours is off by… but you should read that article closely and that might answer your questions, like

“In a 2-1 judgment, the court said an officer’s failure to enter the correct amount in the “set fine” box on a certificate of offence means it is not “complete and regular on its face” and must be quashed by a justice of the peace.” And/ or

"The ruling applies primarily to people who exercise their option to do nothing after being served with an offence notice.

In these cases, after 15 days, a court assumes a defendant doesn’t want to dispute the charge and the matter is left to be dealt with by a justice of the peace."

“That miscalculation resulted in the total amount payable to the court being inflated, sometimes by $5 or $10.”
