# Has this been discussed yet?

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/has-this-been-discussed-yet/244575>\
**Category:** Shift518 Automotive\
**Created:** [June 4, 2009, 3:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/has-this-been-discussed-yet/244575 "2009-06-04T15:54:36Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Mafdark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mafdark/32/6322_2.png) [@Mafdark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mafdark)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2009, 3:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/has-this-been-discussed-yet/244575/1 "2009-06-04T15:54:36Z")

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> Love it or hate it, Chris Rado’s _fwing_-equipped Scion delivered a **1:22.623** lap - destroying the competition in Unlimited FWD and shattering notions of what a front drive car is capable of. Apparently this was the fastest lap time ever recorded by a FWD vehicle at Willow Springs and no doubt this car will be even faster once Chris and the team get the boost issues figured out.

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**Author:** ![Sully93vr4](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sully93vr4/32/6278_2.png) [@Sully93vr4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sully93vr4)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2009, 3:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/has-this-been-discussed-yet/244575/2 "2009-06-04T15:58:04Z")

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wow, sick idea!!!

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**Author:** ![Murrdog9000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/murrdog9000/32/6391_2.png) [@Murrdog9000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Murrdog9000)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2009, 3:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/has-this-been-discussed-yet/244575/3 "2009-06-04T15:59:46Z")

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it is a great idea… but it looks horrendous, like pjb in a speedo or something

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**Author:** ![GD3Skier](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gd3skier/32/6400_2.png) [@GD3Skier](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GD3Skier)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2009, 4:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/has-this-been-discussed-yet/244575/4 "2009-06-04T16:00:42Z")

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Really good Idea, but how long before kids on the streets start bolting pep boys spoilers to their hoods?

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**Author:** ![Jeff\_K](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jeff_k/32/6431_2.png) [@Jeff\_K](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jeff_K)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2009, 4:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/has-this-been-discussed-yet/244575/5 "2009-06-04T16:03:32Z")

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As long as you have the power to overcome the drag more downforce is always good. However they could probably gain the same amount downforce using other aero elements on the body of the car itself (see DTM) without having a retarded looking picnic table hanging over the front end. However that takes analysis and testing ($$$).

Next he needs to use the split wing that adjusts its angle of attack through corners and during braking.

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**Author:** ![94Gt5.0](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/94gt5.0/32/6377_2.png) [@94Gt5.0](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/94Gt5.0)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2009, 4:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/has-this-been-discussed-yet/244575/6 "2009-06-04T16:08:03Z")

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Hmm, good idea, but looks terrible! I couldnt run one of those even if it did help out alot, just b/c it looks so wierd! lol. I wonder if it obstructs the view any…

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**Author:** ![cazwrx187](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cazwrx187/32/6388_2.png) [@cazwrx187](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cazwrx187)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2009, 5:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/has-this-been-discussed-yet/244575/7 "2009-06-04T17:04:31Z")

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Typical ricers.

I’m searching for in-car vids now :lol

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**Author:** ![JiM\_P\_2001](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jim_p_2001/32/6364_2.png) [@JiM\_P\_2001](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JiM_P_2001)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2009, 5:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/has-this-been-discussed-yet/244575/8 "2009-06-04T17:20:10Z")

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I gotta get me one of those and hit the str33tz!

:facepalm

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**Author:** ![OsoiNA6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/osoina6/32/6301_2.png) [@OsoiNA6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OsoiNA6)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2009, 5:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/has-this-been-discussed-yet/244575/9 "2009-06-04T17:46:13Z")

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Ho-hum…

The use of fwings has been going on for years… In the dirt!

BOO YA!

![http://www.na-motorsports.com/Gallery/WoO/images/mkinser-perris.jpg](http://www.na-motorsports.com/Gallery/WoO/images/mkinser-perris.jpg)

But seriously, though, clever idea.

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**Author:** ![Mafdark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mafdark/32/6322_2.png) [@Mafdark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mafdark)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2009, 5:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/has-this-been-discussed-yet/244575/10 "2009-06-04T17:54:41Z")

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reminds me of this:

 ![http://ekhatch.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/ss-works-crx.jpg](http://ekhatch.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/ss-works-crx.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Z28LT1Rocket](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/z28lt1rocket/32/6436_2.png) [@Z28LT1Rocket](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Z28LT1Rocket)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2009, 9:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/has-this-been-discussed-yet/244575/11 "2009-06-04T21:25:27Z")

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cant believe im ever gonna say this but that the’ first 1980’s honda hatchback thats actually cool!

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**Author:** ![LKSi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/lksi/32/6316_2.png) [@LKSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LKSi)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2009, 9:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/has-this-been-discussed-yet/244575/12 "2009-06-04T21:26:29Z")

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please dont make me post the epic facepalm picture again

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**Author:** ![tdi\_logik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tdi_logik/32/6310_2.png) [@tdi\_logik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tdi_logik)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2009, 9:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/has-this-been-discussed-yet/244575/13 "2009-06-04T21:26:42Z")

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> [@Anyone driving to Philly anytime soon?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-driving-to-philly-anytime-soon/18987/2):
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> cant believe im ever gonna say this but that the’ first 1980’s honda hatchback thats actually cool!

thats from 73’ bro…

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**Author:** ![underboosted](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/underboosted/32/6424_2.png) [@underboosted](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/underboosted)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2009, 9:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/has-this-been-discussed-yet/244575/14 "2009-06-04T21:38:40Z")

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> [@The New zwarbyt mobile](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-new-zwarbyt-mobile/18985/16):
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> please dont make me post the epic facepalm picture again

Do it you won’t.

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**Author:** ![1320-20V](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/1320-20v/32/6474_2.png) [@1320-20V](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/1320-20V)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2009, 10:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/has-this-been-discussed-yet/244575/15 "2009-06-04T22:47:35Z")

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Jim Hall, 1962

Rado FYI is the former NDRA champion.

I’m sure this car has no shortage of power, funding, or engineering. No surprise its fast.

Could be faster with a flatten-able wing. attached to a pedal.

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**Author:** ![dc2nick](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dc2nick/32/6289_2.png) [@dc2nick](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dc2nick)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2009, 3:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/has-this-been-discussed-yet/244575/16 "2009-06-05T03:49:57Z")

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yea that ef hatch doenst look too bad. as long as theyre actually racing it

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**Author:** ![Boxersix](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxersix/32/6327_2.png) [@Boxersix](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boxersix)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2009, 4:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/has-this-been-discussed-yet/244575/17 "2009-06-05T04:16:24Z")

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> [@OFFICIAL Buffalo Sabres Thread](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-buffalo-sabres-thread/25170/420):
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> Jim Hall, 1962
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> Could be faster with a flatten-able wing. attached to a pedal.

True, but most organizations frown apon cockpit controllable aero and deem it illegal.

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**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2009, 4:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/has-this-been-discussed-yet/244575/18 "2009-06-05T04:20:40Z")

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> [@What are you driving this winter](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-are-you-driving-this-winter/18993/2):
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> True, but most organizations frown apon cockpit controllable aero and deem it illegal.

Oh, but mounting ironing boards to your hood is ok? OK.

ps: you never answered my question on bbim. :shifty

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**Author:** ![Cossey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Cossey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cossey)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2009, 6:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/has-this-been-discussed-yet/244575/19 "2009-06-05T06:47:23Z")

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> [@What are you driving this winter](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-are-you-driving-this-winter/18993/2):
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> True, but most organizations frown apon cockpit controllable aero and deem it illegal.

I _THINK_ Rado just does the time attack events. I don’t know if there’s any regulations about it?

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**Author:** ![slwrthnu](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/slwrthnu/32/6296_2.png) [@slwrthnu](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/slwrthnu)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2009, 10:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/has-this-been-discussed-yet/244575/20 "2009-06-05T10:26:34Z")

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rado competes in the unlimited class at time attacks, pretty much can do what ever he wants.

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