# Have a HP or DELL laptop? look inside
**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/have-a-hp-or-dell-laptop-look-inside/52490
**Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic
**Created:** [August 1, 2008, 6:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/have-a-hp-or-dell-laptop-look-inside/52490 "2008-08-01T06:33:15Z")
**Posts on this page:** 16
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### Author:  [@Dr.Stevil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dr.Stevil)
#### Post date: [August 1, 2008, 6:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/have-a-hp-or-dell-laptop-look-inside/52490/1 "2008-08-01T06:33:15Z")
> **[Figuring out which NVIDIA GPUs are defective -- it's a lot](https://www.engadget.com/2008-07-31-figuring-out-which-nvidia-gpus-are-defective-its-a-lot.html)**
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> So now that HP's joined Dell in releasing information on which laptops have those defective NVIDIA GPUs, we can sort of piece together which chips are faulty -- and just as had been rumored, it looks like basically every Geforce 8600M and 8400M chip...
It looks like most of the 8400 and 8600 geforce mobile GPU’s are defective
> So now that HP’s joined Dell in [releasing information](http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/26/dell-explains-nvidia-gpu-issues-throws-out-bios-updates-to-help/) on which laptops have those [defective NVIDIA GPUs](http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/nvidia-says-significant-quantities-of-laptop-gpus-are-defectiv/), we can sort of piece together which chips are faulty – and just as had been rumored, it looks like basically [every Geforce 8600M and 8400M chip](http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/10/all-nvidia-8400m-8600m-chips-faulty/) is affected. That’s not good news for NVIDIA, which has been saying that only “previous-generation” chips were problematic – unless the chipmaker is planning on updating the hugely popular 8x00 series sometime, say, _now_, that’s not exactly true, now is it? Other affected chips appear to be in the GeForce Go 7000 and 6000 lines, as well as the Quadro NVS 135M and the Quadro FX 360M, but that’s just looking at model numbers, and we can’t be exactly sure. We’d say that if you’ve got a machine with any one of these GPUs, it might be wise to call in and see what your laptop maker is going to do – and it would be smart for NVIDIA to come right out and say exactly how big and how bad this problem really is.
you might want to call them and see about getting 'em replaced
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### Author:  [@9c1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/9c1)
#### Post date: [August 1, 2008, 6:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/have-a-hp-or-dell-laptop-look-inside/52490/2 "2008-08-01T06:47:20Z")
Just checked all laptops on the network. All ATi. :tup:
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### Author:  [@TORQDSS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TORQDSS)
#### Post date: [August 1, 2008, 6:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/have-a-hp-or-dell-laptop-look-inside/52490/3 "2008-08-01T06:47:39Z")
how do you know what you have? I’m electronically retarded so I have no clue what I bought.
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### Author:  [@Dr.Stevil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dr.Stevil)
#### Post date: [August 1, 2008, 6:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/have-a-hp-or-dell-laptop-look-inside/52490/4 "2008-08-01T06:58:37Z")
go to start\> control panel \> system \> Hardware ‘Tab’\> Device Manager button
in device manager, expand the “+” next to ‘display adapter’
it will list the GPU your machine is using.
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### Author:  [@Skurge](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Skurge)
#### Post date: [August 1, 2008, 6:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/have-a-hp-or-dell-laptop-look-inside/52490/5 "2008-08-01T06:59:10Z")
ATI here 🙂
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### Author:  [@Cavi\_Mike](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cavi_Mike)
#### Post date: [August 1, 2008, 7:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/have-a-hp-or-dell-laptop-look-inside/52490/6 "2008-08-01T07:47:33Z")
NVidia’s cards have been getting cheaper and cheaper in cost so I guess this is the only result. Obviously they’re cutting corners somewhere. I definitely won’t be buying NVidia for my next computer, that’s for damn sure.
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### Author:  [@ZOMGVTEK](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ZOMGVTEK)
#### Post date: [August 2, 2008, 6:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/have-a-hp-or-dell-laptop-look-inside/52490/7 "2008-08-02T18:01:01Z")
My MBP has a 8600M GT…
So, does this affect me in any way? It works, so i dont see a big issue right now.
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### Author:  [@deebo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deebo)
#### Post date: [August 2, 2008, 7:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/have-a-hp-or-dell-laptop-look-inside/52490/8 "2008-08-02T19:02:38Z")
mine says: Mobil Intel ® 965 Express chipset family- What the hell does that mean
i am also electronically retarded
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### Author:  [@Dr.Stevil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dr.Stevil)
#### Post date: [August 3, 2008, 4:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/have-a-hp-or-dell-laptop-look-inside/52490/9 "2008-08-03T04:17:23Z")
> [@ZOMGVTEK](#):
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> My MBP has a 8600M GT…
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> So, does this affect me in any way? It works, so i dont see a big issue right now.
I would assume that it does. Check out the mac forums and see what others are doing about it.
95LS1t, it’s on board/integrated video from intel, you’re ok
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### Author:  [@Willybeen](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Willybeen)
#### Post date: [August 3, 2008, 4:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/have-a-hp-or-dell-laptop-look-inside/52490/10 "2008-08-03T04:54:52Z")
Mine is an NVIDIA MCP67M… am i screwed?
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### Author:  [@dcrdev](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dcrdev)
#### Post date: [August 3, 2008, 6:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/have-a-hp-or-dell-laptop-look-inside/52490/11 "2008-08-03T06:57:35Z")
daaamn, I have a dell 1720 with the 8600gt in it. So far it looks like the only thing they have to remedy the problem is with a patch to the bios:
[http://www.infoworld.com/article/08/07/29/Dell\_takes\_heat\_for\_faulty\_Nvidia\_chips\_1.html](http://www.infoworld.com/article/08/07/29/Dell_takes_heat_for_faulty_Nvidia_chips_1.html)
I would rather have it completely replaced.
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### Author:  [@ZOMGVTEK](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ZOMGVTEK)
#### Post date: [August 3, 2008, 9:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/have-a-hp-or-dell-laptop-look-inside/52490/12 "2008-08-03T09:33:52Z")
> [@Dr.Stevil](#):
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> I would assume that it does. Check out the mac forums and see what others are doing about it.
Ew… Mac Forums…
Maybe i can get a new laptop out of it if i yell enough, this ones the ‘6 month ago’ model. I know, i should really throw it out and get a new one.
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### Author:  [@BOBBYGRV](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BOBBYGRV)
#### Post date: [August 3, 2008, 10:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/have-a-hp-or-dell-laptop-look-inside/52490/13 "2008-08-03T10:08:29Z")
i have the nvidia geforce go 6150, sounds like i might be getting a new one. i dont seem to have any problems with it though? the only problem i have is with my integrated wireless card not working anymore.
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### Author:  [@ZOMGVTEK](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ZOMGVTEK)
#### Post date: [August 3, 2008, 10:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/have-a-hp-or-dell-laptop-look-inside/52490/14 "2008-08-03T10:27:03Z")
> [@bobbyg1243](#):
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> i have the nvidia geforce go 6150, sounds like i might be getting a new one. i dont seem to have any problems with it though? the only problem i have is with my integrated wireless card not working anymore.
You are not affected by this. Its for the 8400M and 8600M GPU’s.
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### Author:  [@BOBBYGRV](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BOBBYGRV)
#### Post date: [August 3, 2008, 10:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/have-a-hp-or-dell-laptop-look-inside/52490/15 "2008-08-03T10:42:45Z")
> Other affected chips appear to be in the **GeForce Go 7000 and 6000** lines, as well as the Quadro NVS 135M and the Quadro FX 360M, but that’s just looking at model numbers, and we can’t be exactly sure. We’d say that if you’ve got a machine with any one of these GPUs, it might be wise to call in and see what your laptop maker is going to do – and it would be smart for NVIDIA to come right out and say exactly how big and how bad this problem really is.
my card is in the affected models, just the 2 they specify on.
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### Author:  [@ZOMGVTEK](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ZOMGVTEK)
#### Post date: [August 3, 2008, 1:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/have-a-hp-or-dell-laptop-look-inside/52490/16 "2008-08-03T13:42:02Z")
> [@bobbyg1243](#):
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> my card is in the affected models, just the 2 they specify on.
Whoa…
So its almost any nvidia mobile gpu made in the past few years?