# have you ever wanted a set of ccw classics but not multipiece...
**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/have-you-ever-wanted-a-set-of-ccw-classics-but-not-multipiece/261166
**Category:** Shift518 Automotive
**Created:** [November 3, 2011, 10:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/have-you-ever-wanted-a-set-of-ccw-classics-but-not-multipiece/261166 "2011-11-03T22:43:36Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@LKSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LKSi)
#### Post date: [November 4, 2011, 9:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/have-you-ever-wanted-a-set-of-ccw-classics-but-not-multipiece/261166/41 "2011-11-04T09:12:41Z")
ccw classics are 2011’s trend… looking forward to what next year will bring
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### Author:  [@slwrthnu](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/slwrthnu)
#### Post date: [November 4, 2011, 9:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/have-you-ever-wanted-a-set-of-ccw-classics-but-not-multipiece/261166/42 "2011-11-04T09:17:05Z")
> [@FS: Two 12" Alpine Type S Subs](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-two-12-alpine-type-s-subs/46111/11):
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> ccw classics are 2011’s trend… looking forward to what next year will bring
For wheels my guess would be what liberty vip is doing, but I don’t think it will look good on anything outside of vip cars.
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### Author:  [@big\_red](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/big_red)
#### Post date: [November 4, 2011, 9:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/have-you-ever-wanted-a-set-of-ccw-classics-but-not-multipiece/261166/43 "2011-11-04T09:19:45Z")
If they made a 5x100 16" I would totally buy a set
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### Author:  [@Ollie](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Ollie)
#### Post date: [November 4, 2011, 9:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/have-you-ever-wanted-a-set-of-ccw-classics-but-not-multipiece/261166/44 "2011-11-04T09:30:55Z")
> [@Lifters/ Gym Rats...step inside](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lifters-gym-rats-step-inside/44336/107):
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> If by quality you mean strength, then it’s not really a justifying factor for around 5x the price of competition on an item that rarely breaks.
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> Phones break all the time, but if there were two phones that looked identical but one was “stronger” but 5 times the price, you’d probably still take the risk and buy the cheaper one.
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> One of the biggest selling points of CCW’s besides looks and width was the their rarity and that they had an instant “wow” factor because people knew what they cost. The second people start debating or questioning whether it’s the real thing or the knockoff the owner will lose his interest. The owner will just move on to some other “exotic” good looking wheel that doesn’t have a knockoff.
People buy CCWs mainly because of their customization. Hence Complete Custom Wheels. CCWs are played so I doubt anyone gets them for the rarity factor. Anyone who buys these will be jumping on a played bandwagon for the wrong reasons.=]
> [@\*\*\*\*\*Official: Mighty Meet Thread\*\*\*\*\*](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-mighty-meet-thread/10918/3304):
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> XXR wheels are actually pretty strong haha, I would buy these if I was in the market for bandwagon wheels
Yeah. Well I wouldn’t buy them but CCW Race barrels have a greater chance of cracking then an XXR wheel has of bending and actually effecting you, IMO.
> [@Project Quest...4/26](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/project-quest-4-26/36028/46):
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> CCW’s aren’t even that expensive for a multi piece wheel. Yea they are more money than your shitty knockoff wheel that’s on every civic but they are proven quality race wheels. On and off the track.
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> They are also made in the USA and their customer service is excellent.
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> Haters gonna hate.
Seriously. CCWs are extremely reasonably priced for the quality, service, and customization. I’m not saying everyone should buy them but, geez, if they seem too expensive for you, you might be in the wrong game.
> [@\*\*\*\*\*Official: Mighty Meet Thread\*\*\*\*\*](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-mighty-meet-thread/10918/3307):
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> I do hate on knockoffs. Cheap wheels suck. I don’t understand why people cheap out on wheels. Shitty wheels and tires are what $1200 or so? You can get a decent set of Voks for like $1800-$2K. Why not just save up the extra money?
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> Wheels make the car imo.
best post ITT. I watch people spend more on fake wheels while I’m buying real wheels in cool specs for less. It’s funny but I don’t complain because more sick wheels for me. I bought LMs for less than 500 bucks once, Rial Type As for less than $400, RS’s for less than 600, ACS type III for less than 300. I’m not giving exact prices because they might make people a little uneasy:lol
> [@OFFICIAL: "Whine about morAns on the road" thread.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-whine-about-morans-on-the-road-thread/46412/71):
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> Old cars suck. I don’t understand why people cheap out on cars. Shitty cars are like what $12,000 or so? You can get a decent used Porsche for like $18,000-$20,000. Why not just save the **extra money**?
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> I had some crappy cars as some of my first cars. Every car had some sort of issue. Hit a tree and the car stopped running, didn’t look as good anymore, etc.
I buy old wheels all the time, ftw. I also love old cars. Just because a car (or anything for that matter) is old, doesn’t mean it’s a replica. I understand your analogy but it doesn’t hold much ground.
> [@FS: '92 Infiniti G20](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-92-infiniti-g20/46387/9):
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> Multi-lug pattern…puke in my mouth.
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> Instant fail…didn’t look any further.
A lot of authentic, quality JDM wheels are multi-lug. Just saying. But 9/10 you’re right it means shit. lol
> [@All that is MAN!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/all-that-is-man/9558/323):
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> You do realize by buying shitty parts/wheels etc it actually hurts quality companies. Pretty soon all you will be left with is shit. Half the reason HKS USA is now gone.
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> Engineering/Manufacturing costs money.
Actually this is the best post ITT. lol I like you. This is the most important reason not to support replica companies. If you can’t respect this than this industry is going to go downhill. If you look at Japan for example. People only support authentic parts because they take pride in it and have respect for what goes into making them. Support those doing it right, not companys copying designs and doing it the cheapest way possible because they know Americans are cheap and would rather fake the funk.
> [@IOM G8 GT 888"](#):
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> I dont think you can justify the money spent on CCW’s lol.
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> Quality - I’ve had a few “cheap” brand of wheels hold up to what New York roads have to offer with absolutely NO problems.
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> Appeal or “wow factor”- They dont really wow me, but ofcourse this point of the wheel is purely opinion.
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> Function - They’re not some really super light wheels are they?
If you don’t get it, you don’t get it.
Some food for thought guys. Not trying to dive into the fake vs. real argument, as you can see I argued both points. I will never buy another high end race wheel for a street car again. I also won’t be buying some XXRs so I can pretend to have a Complete Custom Wheel either:lol
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### Author:  [@Cossey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cossey)
#### Post date: [November 4, 2011, 9:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/have-you-ever-wanted-a-set-of-ccw-classics-but-not-multipiece/261166/45 "2011-11-04T09:36:25Z")
I’m included in that 1% too!
5 sets of Volks
2 sets of BBS
Not gonna count the OZs I had on the Subaru, or the TR jump offs on the M3, or the CSL reps on the M3 lol.
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### Author:  [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)
#### Post date: [November 4, 2011, 9:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/have-you-ever-wanted-a-set-of-ccw-classics-but-not-multipiece/261166/46 "2011-11-04T09:49:08Z")
CSL REPS ARE FUCKING FAKES TOO YOU GOON
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### Author:  [@Cossey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cossey)
#### Post date: [November 4, 2011, 9:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/have-you-ever-wanted-a-set-of-ccw-classics-but-not-multipiece/261166/47 "2011-11-04T09:54:00Z")
> [@OFFICIAL: "Whine about morAns on the road" thread.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-whine-about-morans-on-the-road-thread/46412/77):
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> CSL REPS ARE FUCKING FAKES TOO YOU GOON
HENCE WHY I DIDN’T COUNT THEM YOU BAFFOON.
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### Author:  [@imported\_hybrdthry91](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_hybrdthry91)
#### Post date: [November 4, 2011, 10:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/have-you-ever-wanted-a-set-of-ccw-classics-but-not-multipiece/261166/48 "2011-11-04T10:00:08Z")
> [@Project Quest...4/26](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/project-quest-4-26/36028/46):
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> CCW’s aren’t even that expensive for a multi piece wheel. Yea they are more money than your shitty knockoff wheel that’s on every civic but they are proven quality race wheels. On and off the track.
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> They are also made in the USA and their customer service is excellent.
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> Haters gonna hate.
I love CCW’s and yes they aren’t very expensive for the quality wheel you get, and made right here in america which is always good. Much cheaper than bbs’ and many volks.
Honestly though most people don’t care about the 5 lbs they save or the marginal strength upgrade or the 3 pieces or the forged 1 piece. Most just want a decent quality wheel that looks good for a reasonable price.
You say knockoffs are bad for the market but competition drives innovation. Free market is always good for the consumer.
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### Author:  [@toomanycamaros](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/toomanycamaros)
#### Post date: [November 4, 2011, 10:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/have-you-ever-wanted-a-set-of-ccw-classics-but-not-multipiece/261166/49 "2011-11-04T10:07:09Z")
> [@\*\*\*\*\*Official: Mighty Meet Thread\*\*\*\*\*](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-mighty-meet-thread/10918/3307):
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> I do hate on knockoffs. Cheap wheels suck. I don’t understand why people cheap out on wheels. Shitty wheels and tires are what $1200 or so? You can get a decent set of Voks for like $1800-$2K. Why not just save up the extra money?
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> Wheels make the car imo.
It all depends on the car and the person. If it’s a 6-7k car that is your summer daily/toy then it’s stupid to put expensive wheels on it in my opinion. Take my black bomber for instance even after it’s painted I might change the wheels, but they will still be either OEM GM or knock off. 2k is too much money in my mind for a set of wheels, but to each there own.
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### Author:  [@Johawk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Johawk)
#### Post date: [November 4, 2011, 10:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/have-you-ever-wanted-a-set-of-ccw-classics-but-not-multipiece/261166/50 "2011-11-04T10:12:44Z")
I don’t argue either point. There is obviously good and bad for both. Price vs quality vs performance. For those of you who can afford the quality and performance that’s great for those who cant but are looking for the style so we can pretend we have cash to burn… There are replicas. And when we damage our replicas we don’t have to sit in the driveway and cry. LoL
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### Author:  [@slwrthnu](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/slwrthnu)
#### Post date: [November 4, 2011, 10:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/have-you-ever-wanted-a-set-of-ccw-classics-but-not-multipiece/261166/51 "2011-11-04T10:17:53Z")
The whole u only paid xxx for the car so only pay xxx for the wheels is stupid imo, plenty of people in the car scene purchase a car because they like it not because of how much it costs, although obviously if u can’t afford it u can’t buy it.
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### Author:  [@capitalcrew](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/capitalcrew)
#### Post date: [November 4, 2011, 10:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/have-you-ever-wanted-a-set-of-ccw-classics-but-not-multipiece/261166/52 "2011-11-04T10:27:42Z")
> [@Johawk"](#):
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> I don’t argue either point. There is obviously good and bad for both. Price vs quality vs performance. For those of you who can afford the quality and performance that’s great for those who cant but are looking for the style so we can pretend we have cash to burn… There are replicas. And when we damage our replicas we don’t have to sit in the driveway and cry. LoL
This. The real vs fake argument is stupid IMO. The kids spending 450 shipped on a set of XXRs aren’t the kids dropping 1500-2500 on wheels. They aren’t the people who can afford it. I know I can’t, not now at least. I’d love a better set of wheels. I keep an eye out on CL for a set of legit wheels in my price range all of the time and if they ever come up, I’ll buy them, but until then, while I’m sitting around waiting for some baller ass deal my car is outside looking retarded sunken like 3" from the fender and I don’t like it. So in the meantime while I’m saving money, or waiting for some good deal, I’ll buy some garbage like these, or rotas, and despite the fact that my car will have cheap wheels it will still have more aesthetic appeal than it did before.
People who are going to buy legit wheels are still going to buy legit wheels. People who can’t afford them still can’t afford them. Do you really think a rep is going to ruin a wheel that’s already played out and still being bought anyways?
I’m going to buy 5 sets of reps instead of one set of good wheels and change them every week when I move back to the 518, just so when I see a shift member driving I can do this…
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### Author:  [@Boost\_Creep](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boost_Creep)
#### Post date: [November 4, 2011, 10:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/have-you-ever-wanted-a-set-of-ccw-classics-but-not-multipiece/261166/53 "2011-11-04T10:35:01Z")
If you don’t get it, you don’t get it. Between Ollie, E, and myself I summed up what I could on fake vs. real wheels. Again, we’re arguing opinions which is never ending and exhausting.
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### Author:  [@SRS\_BZNS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SRS_BZNS)
#### Post date: [November 4, 2011, 10:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/have-you-ever-wanted-a-set-of-ccw-classics-but-not-multipiece/261166/54 "2011-11-04T10:54:42Z")
I think the biggest argument here isn’t the fact people are calling them knock offs or cheap but the fact they are calling them junk. XXR gets called junk all the time when its one of the few wheels I see used at drift events on the regular with no failures and drifting has to be one of the toughest motorsports on wheels outside of rally.
The truth is a somepoint in a situation any wheel will fail and most of them will actually handle just as much as the other but for me I’d much rather pay $200 and have another wheel at my door step within 7 days than pay $600 and have to wait another 2-4 weeks for that wheel to arrive
The truth is everything is knocked off these days. You buy walmart brand cereal that is just a knock off of the name brand. Clothing lines are knocked off all the time. Sun Glasses. And half the time that shit is actually coming from the same factory just in a different location where cost of labor is less. Same machines, same material, different people standing around watching the robots build your shit. SO why so much rage, I could see if this was the hockey industry where Reebok has American factories and Chinese factories and American factories produce pro only models and chinese produce the pro zone which is nto the same quality material and they charge the same price but its not. This is a similar looking product for much less but that does the same job
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### Author:  [@jdaniels](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jdaniels)
#### Post date: [November 4, 2011, 10:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/have-you-ever-wanted-a-set-of-ccw-classics-but-not-multipiece/261166/55 "2011-11-04T10:58:14Z")
By calling them “fake” wheels, you are saying that they aren’t actually wheels. These aren’t fakes, they also aren’t reproductions… they are CCW classic INSPIRED or STYLE wheels. If they were “fake CCW’s” that implies that they are counterfeits being passed as CCW’s.
Anyway, that’s my opinion.
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### Author:  [@SRS\_BZNS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SRS_BZNS)
#### Post date: [November 4, 2011, 11:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/have-you-ever-wanted-a-set-of-ccw-classics-but-not-multipiece/261166/56 "2011-11-04T11:02:04Z")
> [@FS: '92 Infiniti G20](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-92-infiniti-g20/46387/10):
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> By calling them “fake” wheels, you are saying that they aren’t actually wheels. These aren’t fakes, they also aren’t reproductions… they are CCW classic INSPIRED or STYLE wheels. If they were “fake CCW’s” that implies that they are counterfeits being passed as CCW’s.
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> Anyway, that’s my opinion.
Thats true also
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### Author:  [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)
#### Post date: [November 4, 2011, 11:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/have-you-ever-wanted-a-set-of-ccw-classics-but-not-multipiece/261166/57 "2011-11-04T11:34:32Z")
I’ve seen plnety of XXR failures. A dude at the last LVD event backed it into the k-rail and his XXR LM reps instantly became 2-piece wheels.
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### Author:  [@imported\_hybrdthry91](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_hybrdthry91)
#### Post date: [November 4, 2011, 11:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/have-you-ever-wanted-a-set-of-ccw-classics-but-not-multipiece/261166/58 "2011-11-04T11:42:04Z")
> [@OFFICIAL: "Whine about morAns on the road" thread.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-whine-about-morans-on-the-road-thread/46412/89):
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> I’ve seen plnety of XXR failures. A dude at the last LVD event backed it into the k-rail and his XXR LM reps instantly became 2-piece wheels.
lol thats what you call a failure?
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### Author:  [@SRS\_BZNS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SRS_BZNS)
#### Post date: [November 4, 2011, 11:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/have-you-ever-wanted-a-set-of-ccw-classics-but-not-multipiece/261166/59 "2011-11-04T11:48:17Z")
did he happen to back into the k rail @ 60-70mph like one of the first ever LVD where that white coupe ate shit and his battles “failed”
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### Author:  [@slwrthnu](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/slwrthnu)
#### Post date: [November 4, 2011, 11:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/have-you-ever-wanted-a-set-of-ccw-classics-but-not-multipiece/261166/60 "2011-11-04T11:52:16Z")
> [@I spotted one of the Village People...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-spotted-one-of-the-village-people/46395/8):
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> I think the biggest argument here isn’t the fact people are calling them knock offs or cheap but the fact they are calling them junk. XXR gets called junk all the time when its one of the few wheels I see used at drift events on the regular with no failures and drifting has to be one of the toughest motorsports on wheels outside of rally.
>
> The truth is a somepoint in a situation any wheel will fail and most of them will actually handle just as much as the other but for me I’d much rather pay $200 and have another wheel at my door step within 7 days than pay $600 and have to wait another 2-4 weeks for that wheel to arrive
>
> The truth is everything is knocked off these days. You buy walmart brand cereal that is just a knock off of the name brand. Clothing lines are knocked off all the time. Sun Glasses. And half the time that shit is actually coming from the same factory just in a different location where cost of labor is less. Same machines, same material, different people standing around watching the robots build your shit. SO why so much rage, I could see if this was the hockey industry where Reebok has American factories and Chinese factories and American factories produce pro only models and chinese produce the pro zone which is nto the same quality material and they charge the same price but its not. This is a similar looking product for much less but that does the same job
But these aren’t just a rebranded ccw, if they were I’d see nothing wrong with buying them. And expensive wheels aren’t just put on my car because they are expensive, they are stronger with better build quality and more customizable. There is plenty of proof out there and not just that I’ve driven through some of the worst roads in nyc and boston to get to car shows and have never bent a wheel. And I do put fake parts on my car, like body kits since fiberglass is fiberglass and its gonna get destroyed no matter what, but there is a difference when it comes to wheels.
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