# HDMI Cables **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [October 22, 2008, 3:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hdmi-cables/56909 "2008-10-22T15:54:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![TurboTSi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/22d042/32.png) [@TurboTSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TurboTSi)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2008, 7:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hdmi-cables/56909/21 "2008-10-22T19:38:08Z")
an av forum like [avsforum.com](http://avsforum.com)? Yeah, been there for a while and the vast majority (less a few like you) prefer the cables from [monoprice.com](http://monoprice.com) for $1.84. I dare you to find me a clip that proves a monster cable produces a cleaner signal than any other HDMI cable out there. EDIT: is cnet a good source? > **[Culture](https://www.cnet.com/topics/culture/)** > > CNET news reporters and editors cover the latest in Culture, with in-depth stories on issues and events. ---
**Author:** ![scsilver2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@scsilver2](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/scsilver2)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2008, 7:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hdmi-cables/56909/22 "2008-10-22T19:40:05Z")
a clip? as in a video clip from youtube or the such? Won’t find one. ---
**Author:** ![jabbu](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jabbu/32/7446_2.png) [@jabbu](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jabbu)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2008, 7:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hdmi-cables/56909/23 "2008-10-22T19:42:38Z")
Do you plan on watching blu-ray 24/7? Far as i know, hdmi cables can handle blu-ray’s 48mbps data rate just fine. I’ve had the chance to hook up a $6 monoprice and a $120 BB monster cable to a plasma elite, and while i didn’t get to play with blu-ray, noone in the room could tell a difference. ---
**Author:** ![TurboTSi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/22d042/32.png) [@TurboTSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TurboTSi)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2008, 7:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hdmi-cables/56909/24 "2008-10-22T19:44:35Z")
> [@scsilver2](#): > > a clip? as in a video clip from youtube or the such? Won’t find one. ok then I’ll take your word for it… where’s my wallet. > [@from avsforum.com](#): > > As far as your question about clear winners, there are none. Apart from build quality all **HDMI** cables have pretty much equal performance. A $6 **cable** from **monoprice**.com or Blue Jeans **Cable** will perform just as well as that $100 Monster **cable**. Anyone that tells you otherwise is lying, uninformed, or has an agenda. Here’s another idiot from avsforum ^ ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Stevil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/da6949/32.png) [@Dr.Stevil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dr.Stevil)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2008, 7:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hdmi-cables/56909/25 "2008-10-22T19:45:28Z")
> [@scsilver2](#): > > so far, everything that has been said on here is INCORRECT. HDMI DOES NOT MAINTAIN DIGITAL SIGNAL across the cable. On the contrary, HDMI is a cable with high enough bandwith to transfer a digital signal by means of 10-20 single strands of analog signal feeds internally. To make this more clear for all the “A/V PROS” out there, for example: cable box can have digital signal which is then transfered to the TV(component video or HDMI which are both analog signal transfers) then the TV will process it digitally or atleast that’s what the manufacturers tell us. If you don’t believe me, take any mid to high end LCD OR PLASMA with the digital tuner built in and take a decent HDTV antenna and compare the sunday football game from CBS from the antenna to the cable box. Depending on the signal strength, 9 times out of 10 then antenna with NO HDMI CABLES will look deeper and richer and cleaner then cable or satellite box. > > In certain regards, like a person who has a 42" 720p plasma, buying the 1000 series monster cable is not worth it for their cable/satellite box. On the other hand, the person with a 1080p 120 hz LCD utilizing a blu-ray would benefit from the 1000 series or even 800 series HDMI because a) the 120 hz panel and b) the higher resolution player and display. > > With Monster HDMI’s in particular, each level is rated at different “speeds” and for different color depth processing. As previously stated, the customer with the 720p plasma is not going to benefit from the better internal construction, higher bandwidth, and faster transfer rate. So all in all, alot comes down to your tv and what your source is. Yes, you can be super cheap and go buy the $4 off “[supercheapcables.com](http://supercheapcables.com)” but if thats the case, go buy a proton plasma and you won’t see any difference. If you are buying a decent product like LG or samsung panasonic or a good product like sony and sharp, spend the extra $30 and get a good cable to maximize whatever that TV is capable of. > > \END RANT/ :banghead: ---
**Author:** ![scsilver2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@scsilver2](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/scsilver2)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2008, 7:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hdmi-cables/56909/26 "2008-10-22T19:47:52Z")
here’s an article from gizmodo that argues both ways, it shows that YOUR cables from monoprice hold up fairly well AT 6FT, seems like they think the midgrade cables are the rip off. you guys decide! [http://http](http://http)://gizmodo.com/gadgets/hdmi-cable-battlemodo/the-truth-about-monster-cable-part-2-268788.php ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Stevil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/da6949/32.png) [@Dr.Stevil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dr.Stevil)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2008, 8:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hdmi-cables/56909/27 "2008-10-22T20:05:43Z")
eh, it’s subjective when you look at the technology it’s all the same. All cables have to pass HDMI certification for each HDMI revision (1.1,1.2,1.3). All you’re really paying for is a well made cable. [http://www.hdmi.org/learningcenter/faq.aspx](http://www.hdmi.org/learningcenter/faq.aspx) a lot of good info ---
**Author:** ![TurboTSi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/22d042/32.png) [@TurboTSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TurboTSi)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2008, 8:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hdmi-cables/56909/28 "2008-10-22T20:05:59Z")
So a $2 cable performed the same as a $120 cable? Please help me understand why you would choose a monster cable? Even in the long runs (where they both “failed”) I’m sure the difference is negligible. Oh wait… I don’t even have to say that, because part three of the link you posted is here: > **[The Truth About Monster Cable - Grand Finale (Part III)](https://gizmodo.com/the-truth-about-monster-cable-grand-finale-part-iii-282725)** > > Click to viewI warned you that it was back on. Monster's priciest—a $250 35-foot HDMI cable—goes toe-to-toe with Monoprice's longest and thickest—a $35 35-footer and a $53 50-footer. Which will win? Or more importantly, which will fail? Let's have a... And concludes this: > • It never pays to buy a Monster cable first. It doesn’t even make sense to buy the “marked down” $50 cable you can buy if you don’t want Monster. Go online, order your cables, and wait. and this: > • The only people who should buy Monster cable are people who light cigars with Benjamins. Fortunately for Monster, there are plenty of those people. They’re not even suckers, they are just rich as hell, and want the best. This testing did not prove that Monster is not the best. It just proved that the best is, for the most part, unnecessary. ---
**Author:** ![Paulo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/paulo/32/7328_2.png) [@Paulo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Paulo)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2008, 4:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hdmi-cables/56909/29 "2008-10-23T04:40:55Z")
All you need to know is DO NOT buy cables from retailers. Places like BB and CC have about %1000 markups on HDMI cables and various other accessories. And no, I’m not kidding. ---
**Author:** ![comm\_perry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7993a0/32.png) [@comm\_perry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/comm_perry)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2008, 6:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hdmi-cables/56909/30 "2008-10-23T06:49:55Z")
All three parts, for those who are too lazy to search for themselves. A great read, BTW…I remember reading it when it was first posted. > **[The Truth About Monster Cable](https://gizmodo.com/266616/the-truth-about-monster-cable)** > > Hey guys: I just got back from meeting with Noel Lee from Monster Cable, along with a posse of affiliated ladies and gentlemen, and their heavy equipment. I was there to talk to them about the fact that they sell-and have convinced a lot of retailers... > **[The Truth About Monster Cable, Part 2 (Verdict: Cheap Cables Keep Up...Usually)](https://gizmodo.com/268788/the-truth-about-monster-cable-part-2-verdict-cheap-cables-keep-upusually)** > > Click to view > > > > Last Monday, Brian and I had a chance to run down to Monster HQ in Brisbane, CA to run some tests for the HDMI Cable Battlemodo. > **[The Truth About Monster Cable - Grand Finale (Part III)](https://gizmodo.com/282725/the-truth-about-monster-cable---grand-finale-part-iii)** > > Click to viewI warned you that it was back on. Monster's priciest—a $250 35-foot HDMI cable—goes toe-to-toe with Monoprice's longest and thickest—a $35 35-footer and a $53 50-footer. Which will win? Or more importantly, which will fail?... scsilver2, how “danceable” are your cables??? :banghead: > **[$7,250 Speaker Cables Turn You Into a Dancin' Fool](https://gizmodo.com/302478/7250-speaker-cables-turn-you-into-a-dancin-fool)** > > If you thought Monster Cable was bad with its $80 HDMI cables, check out these Pear Anjou Speaker Cables, ringing up the cash register at an astonishing $7,250 for a couple of 12-footers. The most entertaining aspect of this sucker bait is the way... :lol: Edit: [Monoprice.com](http://Monoprice.com) FTW, by the way. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Russian](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/the_russian/32/7414_2.png) [@The\_Russian](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/The_Russian)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2008, 12:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hdmi-cables/56909/31 "2008-10-24T12:23:56Z")
To an Untrained eye, maybe you wont notice the difference, to people who care enough about their picture quality, and notice the fine details, Monster wins hands down. You have to see it with your own eyes, some compressed fucking video clip, isnt going to do shit. Think of a blu-ray data stream as a pool full of water, and the hdmi cable is a drain pipe. The bigger the pipe, the less compression, the better it flows Thats the difference with the different levels of hdmi 1.0 to 1.3. as well as the GBPS they are rated for. Technically all cables with the HDMI logo on them are certified by the HDMI organization, but lots of them slip through the cracks. The HDMI organization has very little power over manufacturers. Another fun part of the cheap ass hdmis is when the ends fucking fall off. Had this happen when wall mounting a tv with a wal-mart cable. The old cliche of you get what you pay for is true. but since this wont convince any of you people, I wont bother responding. ---
**Author:** ![DR.PUCH](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dr.puch/32/5237_2.png) [@DR.PUCH](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DR.PUCH)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2008, 12:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hdmi-cables/56909/32 "2008-10-24T12:31:28Z")
i can get you a deal , just let me know i got all HDMI cables ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Stevil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/da6949/32.png) [@Dr.Stevil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dr.Stevil)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2008, 12:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hdmi-cables/56909/33 "2008-10-24T12:58:59Z")
> [@The\_Russian](#): > > To an Untrained eye, maybe you wont notice the difference, to people who care enough about their picture quality, and notice the fine details, Monster wins hands down. > > You have to see it with your own eyes, some compressed fucking video clip, isnt going to do shit. > > Think of a blu-ray data stream as a pool full of water, and the hdmi cable is a drain pipe. > > The bigger the pipe, the less compression, the better it flows > > Thats the difference with the different levels of hdmi 1.0 to 1.3. as well as the GBPS they are rated for. > > Technically all cables with the HDMI logo on them are certified by the HDMI organization, but lots of them slip through the cracks. The HDMI organization has very little power over manufacturers. > > Another fun part of the cheap ass hdmis is when the ends fucking fall off. Had this happen when wall mounting a tv with a wal-mart cable. > > The old cliche of you get what you pay for is true. > > but since this wont convince any of you people, I wont bother responding. of course cheap cables are going to blow (not price cheap, made cheap). Not all cables that have an HDMI logo are certified either… they’re “supposed” to be but that’s never stopped China :P. Go with a proven inexpensive brand vs monster and you’ll never notice the difference. Besides, I bet the person who bought “monster” thinking that they’re future proofing will be pissed when a higher resolution standard/over 8 channel audio is implemented and they’re expensive cables can no longer support the bandwidth I don’t necessarily disagree with you, but don’t fully agree with you either. And for 1.3 HDMI atleast, the analogy should be more like throwing a sausage down a hallway 😛 current 8channel 1080P doesn’t stream enough data to bottle neck a certified 1.3 cable on that note, I’m sure the monsters, being that their built to high standards, will hold up better and be more effective at long ranges, 99% of the consumer population probably has no real need for it ---
**Author:** ![BuickGN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/buickgn/32/7200_2.png) [@BuickGN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BuickGN)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2008, 1:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hdmi-cables/56909/34 "2008-10-24T13:11:07Z")
ok heres my take monster sucks, and if your that concerned get a GOOD cable like those found at [bettercables.com](http://bettercables.com) or audioquest ---
**Author:** ![TurboTSi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/22d042/32.png) [@TurboTSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TurboTSi)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2008, 1:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hdmi-cables/56909/35 "2008-10-24T13:34:18Z")
> [@The\_Russian](#): > > To an Untrained eye, maybe you wont notice the difference, to people who care enough about their picture quality, and notice the fine details, Monster wins hands down. > > You have to see it with your own eyes, some compressed fucking video clip, isnt going to do shit. > > Think of a blu-ray data stream as a pool full of water, and the hdmi cable is a drain pipe. > > The bigger the pipe, the less compression, the better it flows > > Thats the difference with the different levels of hdmi 1.0 to 1.3. as well as the GBPS they are rated for. > > Technically all cables with the HDMI logo on them are certified by the HDMI organization, but lots of them slip through the cracks. The HDMI organization has very little power over manufacturers. > > Another fun part of the cheap ass hdmis is when the ends fucking fall off. Had this happen when wall mounting a tv with a wal-mart cable. > > The old cliche of you get what you pay for is true. > > but since this wont convince any of you people, I wont bother responding. Jesus christ… did you read any of the links posted? ---
**Author:** ![ZOMGVTEK](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zomgvtek/32/5063_2.png) [@ZOMGVTEK](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ZOMGVTEK)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2008, 7:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hdmi-cables/56909/36 "2008-10-24T19:02:06Z")
A better quality HDMI cable may be able to handle more bandwidth, and have better noise rejection, thicker silver plated conductors… etc. But when it comes down to it, unless youre running some crazy long run thats exceeding the HDMI 1.3 spec, any cheapo cable is going to work. But, if you plan on ever unplugging the cable often, dont get the cheapest you can find, get a 24AWG or thicker if you can, the really cheap $5 cables will break in a week. But what did you expect, it was $5. And yes, you can get a uber badass HDMI cable and it will make effectively no difference. But thats not saying its not worth the extra money. And you people all know Monster is just the cheapest china cable available with thicker insulation to make it look beefier, and some fancy packaging… Right? The higher end monoprice cables are very good for the price, similar to what AudioQuest offers. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hdmi-cables/56909.md?page=1)