# headlights not going up and down

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/headlights-not-going-up-and-down/122513>\
**Category:** SON240sx Automotive\
**Created:** [March 11, 2009, 8:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/headlights-not-going-up-and-down/122513 "2009-03-11T20:42:24Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 17\
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**Author:** ![iAmPhEnOmEnAl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/3bc359/32.png) [@iAmPhEnOmEnAl](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/iAmPhEnOmEnAl)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2009, 8:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/headlights-not-going-up-and-down/122513/1 "2009-03-11T20:42:24Z")

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hey guys i’m hoping someone can help me out here

i just got my 1st 240 and the passenger side headlight isnt going up or down no matter how many time i press the button  
i just put a new one in and plugged everything in to where it should be  
so any suggestions as to why they refuse to work would be awesome  
thanks guys

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**Author:** ![R33](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/5f8ce5/32.png) [@R33](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/R33)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2009, 5:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/headlights-not-going-up-and-down/122513/2 "2009-03-12T05:29:26Z")

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headlight motor is prolly toast

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**Author:** ![DJPyro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/278dde/32.png) [@DJPyro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DJPyro)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2009, 6:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/headlights-not-going-up-and-down/122513/3 "2009-03-12T06:13:18Z")

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Welcome to owning a car with pop up headlights. Just manually crank it up and leave your lights up… My DS one quit going down… It would go up again if you cranked it down by hand, but it owuldn’t go down on it’s own… I just left my headlights up and called it a day.

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**Author:** ![iAmPhEnOmEnAl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/3bc359/32.png) [@iAmPhEnOmEnAl](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/iAmPhEnOmEnAl)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2009, 12:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/headlights-not-going-up-and-down/122513/4 "2009-03-12T12:26:19Z")

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ok well i guess that kicks out the coolness of up and down lol just gotta put them in sleepy eye and leave them that way lol  
and another question how the hell do u get the back bumper i’ve been at it for like 3 days and i dont get very far lol  
thanks again

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**Author:** ![DJPyro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/278dde/32.png) [@DJPyro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DJPyro)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2009, 12:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/headlights-not-going-up-and-down/122513/5 "2009-03-12T12:33:45Z")

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Hatch or coupe? IIRC there’s some bolts holding it in under the garnish below the lights on a hatch.

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**Author:** ![XSNRGE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/xsnrge/32/5565_2.png) [@XSNRGE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/XSNRGE)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2009, 12:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/headlights-not-going-up-and-down/122513/6 "2009-03-12T12:37:21Z")

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There’s a how-to on NICO or Zilvia I think… take your headlight motor out, open it up and push the brushes closer together. Put it back together. Your brushes are likely not making any contact with the commutator.

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**Author:** ![iAmPhEnOmEnAl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/3bc359/32.png) [@iAmPhEnOmEnAl](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/iAmPhEnOmEnAl)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2009, 3:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/headlights-not-going-up-and-down/122513/7 "2009-03-12T15:49:57Z")

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for the rear bumpers its a hatchback seems like theres 2 or 3 bolts i cant reach  
and i’ll take a look for that how-to

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**Author:** ![R33](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/5f8ce5/32.png) [@R33](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/R33)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2009, 6:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/headlights-not-going-up-and-down/122513/8 "2009-03-13T06:15:24Z")

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> [@how do you get black wheel bearing grease out of a light green rug?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-do-you-get-black-wheel-bearing-grease-out-of-a-light-green-rug/20773/29):
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> for the rear bumpers its a hatchback seems like theres 2 or 3 bolts i cant reach  
> and i’ll take a look for that how-to

u have to take out the Rear bumper with the Rear rebar

4 10mm nuts on either end … 4 14mm bolts in the trunk and 1 or 2 underneath (d/s rear tow hook)

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**Author:** ![iAmPhEnOmEnAl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/3bc359/32.png) [@iAmPhEnOmEnAl](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/iAmPhEnOmEnAl)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2009, 1:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/headlights-not-going-up-and-down/122513/9 "2009-03-13T13:09:58Z")

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XSNRGE if u got a link for that post that would be awesome i couldnt find it

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**Author:** ![iAmPhEnOmEnAl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/3bc359/32.png) [@iAmPhEnOmEnAl](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/iAmPhEnOmEnAl)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2009, 3:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/headlights-not-going-up-and-down/122513/10 "2009-03-22T15:30:35Z")

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ok so the headlights do go up but they refuse to go down?  
hope that helps spot out the problem

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**Author:** ![DJPyro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/278dde/32.png) [@DJPyro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DJPyro)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2009, 4:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/headlights-not-going-up-and-down/122513/11 "2009-03-22T16:03:43Z")

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> [@brake pads: EBC greenstuff or hawk HP](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/brake-pads-ebc-greenstuff-or-hawk-hp/20733/24):
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> Welcome to owning a car with pop up headlights. Just manually crank it up and leave your lights up… My DS one quit going down… It would go up again if you cranked it down by hand, but it owuldn’t go down on it’s own… I just left my headlights up and called it a day.

^This.

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**Author:** ![iAmPhEnOmEnAl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/3bc359/32.png) [@iAmPhEnOmEnAl](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/iAmPhEnOmEnAl)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2009, 6:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/headlights-not-going-up-and-down/122513/12 "2009-04-14T18:15:26Z")

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damnit so u guys mean to tell me that this problem is not fixable?

i think i might just… cry

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**Author:** ![SpHiNxXx](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sphinxxx/32/5659_2.png) [@SpHiNxXx](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SpHiNxXx)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2009, 7:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/headlights-not-going-up-and-down/122513/13 "2009-04-14T19:02:11Z")

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did you try the foglight switch… if the previous owner did the brown wire mod… and left the switch on… then the lights wont come down untill the switch is off… happened to me! i had a total brain fart one day… i couldnt figure out why… then DUH!!! the brown wire mod button was on!! try it…!

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**Author:** ![em\_5ive](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/em_5ive/32/5707_2.png) [@em\_5ive](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/em_5ive)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2009, 10:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/headlights-not-going-up-and-down/122513/14 "2009-04-15T10:19:34Z")

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This happened to me too. Driver side light for me. Fixed in in a few mins, should work for you so long as you motor isn’t toast. Do check the brown wire though as Spinxxx stated.

1)Make sure both lights are up  
2)disconnect the battery  
3)remove the cap that covers the manual knobs  
4)Adjust manally until both pop-ups are closed.  
5)double check if screws on the knobs are tightened properly, not too tight!  
6)replace battery and TAADAA! (hopefully)

GL

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**Author:** ![tbradley\_21](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tbradley_21/32/5672_2.png) [@tbradley\_21](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tbradley_21)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2009, 1:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/headlights-not-going-up-and-down/122513/15 "2009-04-15T13:43:41Z")

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Good Luck. After HOURS of troubleshooting, john\_gto and I figured out that my problem was mechanical rather than electrical. The whole headlight assembly was bent or something and caused a couple headlight motors to die during the process.

Solution = new headlight assembly

From what I’ve read, most times it seems like its an electrical issue somewhere from the column to the headlight, which can be somewhat of a pain to do.

GL

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**Author:** ![Hacknik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ba9def/32.png) [@Hacknik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Hacknik)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2009, 5:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/headlights-not-going-up-and-down/122513/16 "2009-04-15T17:04:16Z")

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Solution = Silvia front end conversion.

Where do you think Japanese drifters got the idea from?

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**Author:** ![john\_gto](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/john_gto/32/5641_2.png) [@john\_gto](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/john_gto)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2009, 5:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/headlights-not-going-up-and-down/122513/17 "2009-04-15T17:31:09Z")

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We now have Tyler’s light working properly – at some point there was a minor impact on the driver’s corner -slightly bent the rebar bracket and bumper upright which twisted the headlight assembly about 1/4 " . Replaced the original motor/gear assembly with a known good one -worked twice then failed due to the extra stress from the twisted assembly. Today we replace the entire assembly and compensated for the twisted area.  
To make a long story short check if your car has had any front end damage -if so remove entire assembly and test while removed (connection is long enough to place the assembly in front of the bumper) may work -if not replace motor and gear assembly-retest- if good reinstall but do not twist any part of the assembly-use self tapers if 1 or 2 holes do not line up .

Helpful hint -use plenty of patience.
