# heel and toeing in the 240 **URL:** \ **Category:** SON240sx Automotive\ **Created:** [January 26, 2004, 10:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/heel-and-toeing-in-the-240/80495 "2004-01-26T10:17:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Alex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/db5fbb/32.png) [@Alex](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Alex)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2004, 10:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/heel-and-toeing-in-the-240/80495/1 "2004-01-26T10:17:28Z")
i usually heel and toe around town and one problem i have been having often is that when i go to hit the gass with my heel i catch it on the carpet and then cannot hit the pedal. i tried the rolling your foot aproach but it doesnt work for me. so should i just place my foot further over on the brake and maybe remove the carpet from the side of the gas pedal. what are some other peoples technique for heel and toeing in the 240? ---
**Author:** ![ADAM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4af34b/32.png) [@ADAM](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ADAM)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2004, 10:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/heel-and-toeing-in-the-240/80495/2 "2004-01-26T10:32:26Z")
i brake with the toe (top)of my foot and roll my foot using the outside of the pinki toe area to hit the gas…my heel never does anything i can get a very good “blip” of the throttle with this method ---
**Author:** ![1gq2nv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/1/7feea3/32.png) [@1gq2nv](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/1gq2nv)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2004, 11:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/heel-and-toeing-in-the-240/80495/3 "2004-01-26T11:33:02Z")
I hav ethe carpet problem as well, but luckyliy my size 13 foot enables me to press both pedals firmly. For me it’s just a matter of shifting weight from the left to the right of the foot, it’s more of ankle toe for me. DRE ---
**Author:** ![SHIFT\_KA24DET](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b9bd4f/32.png) [@SHIFT\_KA24DET](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SHIFT_KA24DET)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2004, 12:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/heel-and-toeing-in-the-240/80495/4 "2004-01-26T12:07:30Z")
I can’t do either, damn fused ankles… :evil: ---
**Author:** ![Alex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/db5fbb/32.png) [@Alex](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Alex)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2004, 3:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/heel-and-toeing-in-the-240/80495/5 "2004-01-26T15:57:03Z")
> [@SHIFT\_SR20DET](#): > > I can’t do either, damn fused ankles… :evil: that sucks man. what is your approach on the track? you brake earlier so you have time to revmatch or do you just engine brake? ---
**Author:** ![jjm\_240sx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b77776/32.png) [@jjm\_240sx](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jjm_240sx)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2004, 5:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/heel-and-toeing-in-the-240/80495/6 "2004-01-26T17:27:26Z")
i think i do the same thing as you guys: half of my foot on the break, the other half to blip the gas. i call it side steping. i where skate boarding shoes (there wide) and very easy to do this with. my feet are to big to do heal toe, i also hit the carpet as well. when i had my carpet out though, i was able to heal toe, but my leag got tired to easy. ---
**Author:** ![Alex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/db5fbb/32.png) [@Alex](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Alex)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2004, 6:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/heel-and-toeing-in-the-240/80495/7 "2004-01-26T18:13:54Z")
my foot is too small for your guys way but too big for the traditional way. oh well guess im just gonna have to make it work, maybe pedal covers? ---
**Author:** ![\_M\_aurice](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/_/c5a1d2/32.png) [@\_M\_aurice](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/_M_aurice)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2004, 9:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/heel-and-toeing-in-the-240/80495/8 "2004-01-26T21:37:26Z")
I do it by putting the center of the front of my foot on the brake and swing my heel right and down off the gas pedal. Picture the Best Motoring videos… ---
**Author:** ![Jacky\_Ngai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Jacky\_Ngai](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jacky_Ngai)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2004, 9:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/heel-and-toeing-in-the-240/80495/9 "2004-01-28T21:50:59Z")
you don’t need clutch when you down shift gear. ---
**Author:** ![Rownan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e36b37/32.png) [@Rownan](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Rownan)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2004, 7:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/heel-and-toeing-in-the-240/80495/10 "2004-01-29T07:24:00Z")
> [@ADAM](#): > > i brake with the toe (top)of my foot and roll my foot using the outside of the pinki toe area to hit the gas…my heel never does anything i can get a very good “blip” of the throttle with this method This is the same for me… But I have razo pedals that seriously put the gas and brake like an inch apart. ---
**Author:** ![SHIFT\_KA24DET](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b9bd4f/32.png) [@SHIFT\_KA24DET](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SHIFT_KA24DET)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2004, 8:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/heel-and-toeing-in-the-240/80495/11 "2004-01-29T08:32:32Z")
Im looking into the razo pedals with adjustable heel-toe linkage. ![http://images.cardomain.com/products/raz/RAZRP62_1.jpg](http://images.cardomain.com/products/raz/RAZRP62_1.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Gonad](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gonad/32/5481_2.png) [@Gonad](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gonad)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2004, 9:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/heel-and-toeing-in-the-240/80495/12 "2004-01-29T21:29:24Z")
^^^ Ricer… I can’t do either. I was playing with the pedals while at a stop light and figured the best way for me to do a heel-toe would be to use the top half of my foot, at the very top of the brake, and then I can just turn my foot over to hit the throttle… Having never done this, it’s quite a bitch…Guess I’ll have to learn it slowly…usually I just clutch in and rev up before switching gears… I drive like grandma on a daily basis so no need for fancy footwork 😑 ---
**Author:** ![mr200](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mr200/32/5495_2.png) [@mr200](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/mr200)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2004, 7:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/heel-and-toeing-in-the-240/80495/13 "2004-01-30T07:37:57Z")
My feet are only a size 11, well at least that’s the size of my bowling shoe. But I can hit all three pedals at the same time with one foot if I really want to. I use the, uh I guess it’s called the arch of my right foot to catch the bottom right corner of the brake pedal. I have rice-o-matic pedals (the car came with the remnants of a mounting kit still on the brake, no pad on the clutch, so I bought a kit) I think they’re AutotechnicA maybe? But they’re aluminum, and have pretty sharp corners, so they stick into my Adidas Gazelles (heh, clap if you’re old enough to remember those bad boys) really well. I don’t toe heel much anyway though. I had to learn it for school, the instructors would yell at you and not let you back out until you proved to them you could do it properly. Most of my “spirited driving” is done either in a straight line, or not competitively, so I don’t bother. Besides, with a short shifter and a 5 puck clutch (you can’t slip the damn clutch if your life depended on it) gear changes hit the back end hard, and toe heeling almost always results in a drift. So I’m more of a 1 foot 1 pedal guy. The way they taught us was to ALWAYS drive with your feet in the same position as you toe heel … that way it wil become second nature. I’ve seen some funny pedals at PI with “Toe Here” and “Heel Here” marked on them. Back then, I remeber seeing guys that toe heeled the clutch/brake with their left. Worked just as well, by using your heel on the brake and the outside of your foot on the clutch, gave you steadier accelerator control. ---
**Author:** ![iQuAGoD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f05b48/32.png) [@iQuAGoD](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/iQuAGoD)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2004, 9:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/heel-and-toeing-in-the-240/80495/14 "2004-01-30T09:33:19Z")
I “heel toe” every day, every time I downshift. Its really easy once you do it a lot. I use the side of the ball of my right foot on both pedals. I CAN’T actually heel toe or my knee hits the steering wheel and I still can’t even get the job done. Rolling the foot to the side is really comfortable, and I have never had a problem with slipping off the break pedal… ---
**Author:** ![dip](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dip/32/5479_2.png) [@dip](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dip)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2004, 10:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/heel-and-toeing-in-the-240/80495/15 "2004-01-30T10:37:21Z")
i also use the sides of my foot to shift, with size 13 you dont have a lot of room to get your foot sideways in there, and my knee bangs the dash or steering wheel when i try. being tall sucks ---
**Author:** ![rufio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/da6949/32.png) [@rufio](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rufio)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2004, 4:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/heel-and-toeing-in-the-240/80495/16 "2004-02-04T16:52:18Z")
what is the procedure when doing “heel toe”. Also is it bad not to do this and just do engine break. ---
**Author:** ![\_M\_aurice](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/_/c5a1d2/32.png) [@\_M\_aurice](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/_M_aurice)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2004, 7:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/heel-and-toeing-in-the-240/80495/17 "2004-02-04T19:31:20Z")
It saves the clutch a bit… As far as I know anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Dorifto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/8baadc/32.png) [@Dorifto](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dorifto)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2004, 12:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/heel-and-toeing-in-the-240/80495/18 "2004-04-01T12:24:42Z")
[http://www.modernracer.com/tips/heelandtoeshifting.html](http://www.modernracer.com/tips/heelandtoeshifting.html) heres a well explained how-to on heel and toe downshifting. ---
**Author:** ![whitecomet240](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/13edae/32.png) [@whitecomet240](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/whitecomet240)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2004, 4:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/heel-and-toeing-in-the-240/80495/19 "2004-04-16T16:01:27Z")
> [@dip](#): > > i also use the sides of my foot to shift, with size 13 you dont have a lot of room to get your foot sideways in there, and my knee bangs the dash or steering wheel when i try. > being tall sucks i bang my knee on the steering wheel in normal seating position, but if i pull the seat all the way back…i can’t reach the steering wheel properly 😢 heel and toeing is for shorties only. :lol: ---
**Author:** ![FOOT](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/foot/32/5578_2.png) [@FOOT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/FOOT)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2006, 6:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/heel-and-toeing-in-the-240/80495/20 "2006-11-15T18:52:51Z")
i can’t even use my heel on the gas since my shoe size is 17. [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/heel-and-toeing-in-the-240/80495.md?page=2)