# Heel-Toe Question/Poll... **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [February 24, 2010, 6:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/heel-toe-question-poll/79653 "2010-02-24T06:57:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Paul\_B](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/paul_b/32/5452_2.png) [@Paul\_B](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Paul_B)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2010, 7:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/heel-toe-question-poll/79653/21 "2010-02-24T07:50:12Z")
heel-toeing is fun. there are a few ways to do it…whatever way works best for you an your car is up to you. for me, it depends on how the pedals are spaced. whether theyre real close and inline or farther apart and staggered. ---
**Author:** ![XwalkerX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/xwalkerx/32/7598_2.png) [@XwalkerX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/XwalkerX)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2010, 7:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/heel-toe-question-poll/79653/22 "2010-02-24T07:56:11Z")
> [@Z28pr0jekt](#): > > I don’t really use the heel at all… certainly don’t turn my foot sideways. Left edge of the right foot on the edge of the brake, and blip the throttle with the right edge of the right foot ^ this is how ive always done it. ---
**Author:** ![Paul\_B](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/paul_b/32/5452_2.png) [@Paul\_B](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Paul_B)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2010, 7:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/heel-toe-question-poll/79653/23 "2010-02-24T07:58:30Z")
^ +2 funny how “heel-toe” isnt actaully heel-toe lol ---
**Author:** ![XwalkerX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/xwalkerx/32/7598_2.png) [@XwalkerX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/XwalkerX)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2010, 7:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/heel-toe-question-poll/79653/24 "2010-02-24T07:59:55Z")
in my case its called “12EE” or “wide ass foot” shifting ---
**Author:** ![psychopjv](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/psychopjv/32/7251_2.png) [@psychopjv](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/psychopjv)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2010, 8:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/heel-toe-question-poll/79653/25 "2010-02-24T08:06:06Z")
i’ve honestly never tried it. I know of the theory but thats about it. Maybe because I don’t downshift going straight. I = FAIL ---
**Author:** ![Paul\_B](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/paul_b/32/5452_2.png) [@Paul\_B](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Paul_B)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2010, 8:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/heel-toe-question-poll/79653/26 "2010-02-24T08:06:17Z")
> [@XwalkerX](#): > > in my case its called “12EE” or “wide ass foot” shifting go to the gym and work on that. fggt ---
**Author:** ![Clean\_Baldy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/clean_baldy/32/7308_2.png) [@Clean\_Baldy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Clean_Baldy)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2010, 8:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/heel-toe-question-poll/79653/27 "2010-02-24T08:10:10Z")
> [@Geehee](#): > > best first post ever. + 2398672348756347865873465786347865837465784 karma > [@Geoff](#): > > Clean Baldy I hate being OG sometimes. LOL But, YES … I heel toe my MANUAL now. I’m moving up. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2010, 8:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/heel-toe-question-poll/79653/28 "2010-02-24T08:18:36Z")
It’ll depend on the car and its set up. Personally I prefer the hinged gas pedal for it, it is easier for my big ass foot. ---
**Author:** ![juicedz4](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/juicedz4/32/5051_2.png) [@juicedz4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/juicedz4)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2010, 8:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/heel-toe-question-poll/79653/29 "2010-02-24T08:33:11Z")
> [@XwalkerX](#): > > ^ this is how ive always done it. Same here. I revmatch constantly. It seems like its almost hard not to. Dan ---
**Author:** ![ILC](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ilc/32/5337_2.png) [@ILC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ILC)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2010, 8:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/heel-toe-question-poll/79653/30 "2010-02-24T08:38:29Z")
I roll my foot over. pedals are close enough to do so or my feet are wide. one of the two. ---
**Author:** ![Deathproof](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dec6dc/32.png) [@Deathproof](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Deathproof)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2010, 8:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/heel-toe-question-poll/79653/31 "2010-02-24T08:40:06Z")
I don’t get it. I only upshift during burnouts. ---
**Author:** ![Wahoo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/wahoo/32/8265_2.png) [@Wahoo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Wahoo)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2010, 8:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/heel-toe-question-poll/79653/32 "2010-02-24T08:45:19Z")
My car is deffnitely not designed for it lol, i think people usually make custom brackets to change the distance to allow for it(f-bodys), i basically hit the brake, lift off the brake rev, then let out clutch, hit the brake again. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2010, 8:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/heel-toe-question-poll/79653/33 "2010-02-24T08:45:40Z")
I used to all the time with the Fiero. With the GTO the pedals are horribly set up for it (between the hinged throttle pedal, bad spacing and difference in height) so not nearly as much. A project this summer is modifying the pedals to make it easier. ---
**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2010, 9:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/heel-toe-question-poll/79653/34 "2010-02-24T09:55:50Z")
it’s not a preference based activity to do a proper heel toe. You always need to get your foot firmly on the brake pedal and then pivot your heel however is needed to hit the gas. Getting the brake firmly, safely, and without the risk of your toe slipping off is the high priority. It probably doesn’t matter so much on the street, but at the glen with armco all around you it’s srs bsns. I’ve also found the people who can heel toe on the street often have to relearn when going full force into a turn at a track day because they don’t trust themselves (which is often wise) ---
**Author:** ![cougarspeed](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cougarspeed/32/7468_2.png) [@cougarspeed](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cougarspeed)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2010, 9:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/heel-toe-question-poll/79653/35 "2010-02-24T09:57:53Z")
> [@Blue Eyed Devil](#): > > Do I know how? Yes. > Do I ever do it? No. +1 ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2010, 10:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/heel-toe-question-poll/79653/36 "2010-02-24T10:00:40Z")
> [@theblue](#): > > it’s not a preference based activity to do a proper heel toe. You always need to get your foot firmly on the brake pedal and then pivot your heel however is needed to hit the gas. Getting the brake firmly, safely, and without the risk of your toe slipping off is the high priority. It probably doesn’t matter so much on the street, but at the glen with armco all around you it’s srs bsns. > > I’ve also found the people who can heel toe on the street often have to relearn when going full force into a turn at a track day because they don’t trust themselves (which is often wise) I definitely think I would have to re-learn on the street, I there is plenty of time to setup, and braking is usually not a ‘full-force’ kind of thing. You guys NEVER do it on the street? I wouldn’t do it at every corner during casual driving, but when I am driving aggressively I definitely do. ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2010, 10:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/heel-toe-question-poll/79653/37 "2010-02-24T10:06:20Z")
+2 for Clean Baldy ---
**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2010, 10:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/heel-toe-question-poll/79653/38 "2010-02-24T10:15:04Z")
> [@boardjnky4](#): > > I definitely think I would have to re-learn > > on the street, I there is plenty of time to setup, and braking is usually not a ‘full-force’ kind of thing. > > You guys NEVER do it on the street? I wouldn’t do it at every corner during casual driving, but when I am driving aggressively I definitely do. heel toe only really matters/helps when you’re threshold braking (braking as much as possible without slip), otherwise you might as well be lazy and just rev match then go back to the brake post-downshift. \<– this is what I do on the street 90% of the time unless I’m driving aggressively. ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2010, 10:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/heel-toe-question-poll/79653/39 "2010-02-24T10:22:55Z")
Granny shifting, not double clutching like you should :nono: ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2010, 10:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/heel-toe-question-poll/79653/40 "2010-02-24T10:28:41Z")
> [@theblue](#): > > heel toe only really matters/helps when you’re threshold braking (braking as much as possible without slip), otherwise you might as well be lazy and just rev match then go back to the brake post-downshift. \<– this is what I do on the street 90% of the time unless I’m driving aggressively. that is true, but it feels so much more controlled when you heel-toe it. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/heel-toe-question-poll/79653.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/heel-toe-question-poll/79653.md?page=3)