# help choosing a cam?

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**Category:** Shift518 Automotive\
**Created:** [December 5, 2012, 8:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/help-choosing-a-cam/265679 "2012-12-05T20:47:34Z")\
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**Author:** ![SSmokinn\_SS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@SSmokinn\_SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SSmokinn_SS)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2012, 4:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/help-choosing-a-cam/265679/23 "2012-12-07T04:58:57Z")

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> [@no casino for Buffalo.....](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/no-casino-for-buffalo/51202/43):
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> I thought that was how Richie grenaded the motor in his black T/A. Could be wrong though that was years ago.

you can get away with the ms4 with stock heads. Anything else requires fly cutting usually.

and richie drove around with the ms4 for 3 years without a tune. Im not saying thats what caused it but it sure as hell didnt help it.

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