# Help~Engine Ticking BAD **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Automotive\ **Created:** [July 1, 2009, 6:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/help-engine-ticking-bad/245142 "2009-07-01T06:27:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![88slowmarro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/88slowmarro/32/6339_2.png) [@88slowmarro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/88slowmarro)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2009, 6:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/help-engine-ticking-bad/245142/121 "2009-07-01T18:40:21Z")
so much bad info in these posts holy shit ,trish the k20,s are good for spun bearings they sound like a tick but it travels threw the whole motor .the best way of narrowing down a spun lower end is to start the car at idle pull a injector plug and listen to see if the noise gets quieter do that to all cyl,s if ya find one thats the rod that spun ,ya do that to ttake the load off the cyl during its firing stroke is it foolproof no ya really need to get it to a shop and properly diagnosed .do not take it toa tire center and let some tire jockey look at it they will tell ya it needs a wheel bearing as there retarted lololol.yes dealers can void warr do to aftermarket add ons ,do all do it no but most will esp now that the economy is slow and lookin for money.the only cars that have a overrev sensor in em was ford as there junk .trish if ya can call my shop tommorow at 664-1290 ask for john ill see if i can get ya in and look at it benny will tell ya we are top notch and wont fuck ya over shit i prolly wont even charge ya to look at it ---
**Author:** ![big\_red](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/big_red/32/6328_2.png) [@big\_red](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/big_red)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2009, 6:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/help-engine-ticking-bad/245142/122 "2009-07-01T18:43:59Z")
> [@Find the 50 movies in this painting](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/find-the-50-movies-in-this-painting/19821/31): > > Wait… did you buy this car off stallmer? :haha ---
**Author:** ![88slowmarro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/88slowmarro/32/6339_2.png) [@88slowmarro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/88slowmarro)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2009, 6:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/help-engine-ticking-bad/245142/123 "2009-07-01T18:44:09Z")
oh and knock sensors detect detonation and and other fueling issues to adj timing ,not detecting when motors are gonna fail ---
**Author:** ![big\_red](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/big_red/32/6328_2.png) [@big\_red](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/big_red)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2009, 6:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/help-engine-ticking-bad/245142/124 "2009-07-01T18:45:24Z")
fuck k20s ---
**Author:** ![SDP](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@SDP](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SDP)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2009, 6:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/help-engine-ticking-bad/245142/125 "2009-07-01T18:51:01Z")
If its from bent valves it happened from a mishift. I highly doubt its a bearing rattle. Unless a real idiot at mohawk honda diagnosed it they are probably correct. Don’t listen to the service writers about ecu codes and such, sometimes they don’t know much and make shit up as they go along Either way don’t drive around much as you are pushing your luck with making things a lot worse then they are. ---
**Author:** ![88slowmarro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/88slowmarro/32/6339_2.png) [@88slowmarro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/88slowmarro)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2009, 6:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/help-engine-ticking-bad/245142/126 "2009-07-01T18:54:04Z")
if it was bent or burnt valves it wouldnt idle or run for shit , ---
**Author:** ![88slowmarro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/88slowmarro/32/6339_2.png) [@88slowmarro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/88slowmarro)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2009, 6:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/help-engine-ticking-bad/245142/127 "2009-07-01T18:55:56Z")
> [@~\* Official 2006 Buffalo Bills Season Thread \*~](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-2006-buffalo-bills-season-thread/17237/89): > > no there is a over -rev code that would be thrown, the guy at honda even agreed he suggested it got cleared which is impossible, i told him to look at my previous codes that have been there a while which would prove i didnt clear it. you can tell by lookin at the keycycle counters they have in the comp ,or if the monitors are cleared .but yeah service writers are a joke .shit look at travis he was one .quite the tech he was ha ---
**Author:** ![88slowmarro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/88slowmarro/32/6339_2.png) [@88slowmarro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/88slowmarro)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2009, 6:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/help-engine-ticking-bad/245142/128 "2009-07-01T18:57:33Z")
all in all it could be a million diff things ,spun rod ,piston slap bent valve cam ,cam follower ,timing chain or tensioner .the list goes on and on get it somewhers that aint gonna fuck ya ---
**Author:** ![SDP](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@SDP](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SDP)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2009, 7:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/help-engine-ticking-bad/245142/129 "2009-07-01T19:01:42Z")
I have had motors with bent valves on one cylinder still run pretty good but have enough of a bend to increase lash enough to make noise. They also tend to bend the valve slightly every time it comes back on the seat, not a nice thing to bend it back and forth a million times its going to break eventually. A quick inspection with the valve cover off will tell a lot, if its a misshift the ex valves will be the ones bent. Or maybe its something else and there are no bent valves. Nobody can tell from their computer. ---
**Author:** ![88slowmarro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/88slowmarro/32/6339_2.png) [@88slowmarro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/88slowmarro)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2009, 7:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/help-engine-ticking-bad/245142/130 "2009-07-01T19:03:11Z")
right ,thats why i said to take it somewhere that aint gonna fuck her and the list could be long as what is wrong .seein as theres quite a few things it could be ---
**Author:** ![SDP](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@SDP](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SDP)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2009, 7:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/help-engine-ticking-bad/245142/131 "2009-07-01T19:08:40Z")
I don’t know anything about trish or her car but I see a girl drive past my shop quite often in a black 4 door si ? on rt 50? ---
**Author:** ![TurboTravis](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbotravis/32/6406_2.png) [@TurboTravis](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TurboTravis)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2009, 2:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/help-engine-ticking-bad/245142/132 "2009-07-02T02:58:02Z")
> [@Anyone know where to find the Bills "The Comeback" Vid?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-know-where-to-find-the-bills-the-comeback-vid/20096/5): > > thank you. > > technically, you should wait even a bit after that. that is COOLANT temp, not OIL temp. if the oil isn’t as warm as it should be, its still abusing it. Exactly, people don’t listen to me when I talk about oil temps, so I just throw the ‘few minutes’ out there. Personally, I’ve found the oil to take roughly double the time to come up to normal temp as the water. ---
**Author:** ![Shady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6de8d8/32.png) [@Shady](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shady)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2009, 5:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/help-engine-ticking-bad/245142/133 "2009-07-02T05:07:58Z")
> [@Deer slams into the side of the truck..](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/deer-slams-into-the-side-of-the-truck/20103/14): > > Exactly, people don’t listen to me when I talk about oil temps, so I just throw the ‘few minutes’ out there. Personally, I’ve found the oil to take roughly double the time to come up to normal temp as the water. Really for some reason I would think the oil would heat up a bit quicker as all the friction thats going on between the oil and moving parts ---
**Author:** ![Boost\_Creep](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boost_creep/32/6366_2.png) [@Boost\_Creep](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boost_Creep)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2009, 5:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/help-engine-ticking-bad/245142/134 "2009-07-02T05:09:29Z")
Has warranty, drop off at dealer? ---
**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2009, 5:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/help-engine-ticking-bad/245142/135 "2009-07-02T05:13:44Z")
> [@U Like Mighty Taco?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/u-like-mighty-taco/20083/20): > > Really for some reason I would think the oil would heat up a bit quicker as all the friction thats going on between the oil and moving parts How about the fact that it’s oil :rofl Water heats up faster than oil. Surprise! ---
**Author:** ![Shady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6de8d8/32.png) [@Shady](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shady)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2009, 5:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/help-engine-ticking-bad/245142/136 "2009-07-02T05:20:11Z")
> [@I need a good website maker!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-need-a-good-website-maker/20086/9): > > How about the fact that it’s oil :rofl > > Water heats up faster than oil. Surprise! stfu benny srsly I wouldent think it would take that much longer to heat up than coolant/water as theres a lot more friction going on heating it up… I understand oil is there to keep friction from happening but theres still friction occuring ---
**Author:** ![Tricia](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tricia/32/6426_2.png) [@Tricia](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Tricia)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2009, 5:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/help-engine-ticking-bad/245142/137 "2009-07-02T05:59:11Z")
> [@~\* Official 2006 Buffalo Bills Season Thread \*~](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-2006-buffalo-bills-season-thread/17237/96): > > …Or you can look into the lifters thing since your issue sounds just like the issue both of the Subaru’s we’ve owned (and numerous others I’ve heard) had…I’m stickin to that… > > I’m stabbing in the dark here…since I’m no engine expert really…but maybe running some Gumout or Seafoam through the gas tank might ‘unstick’ if something is indeed sticking? Gils says lifters too. > [@my new ride](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-new-ride/20094/6): > > It would rule out bent valves :facepalm and it did, compression test was PERFECT, 225 all across ( si has high compression 11:1 ) > [@Guitar Hero GTG TONIGHT 11/11/06 @ the cockpit aka the cracker barrel (the old ritz)](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/guitar-hero-gtg-tonight-11-11-06-the-cockpit-aka-the-cracker-barrel-the-old-ritz/20049/59): > > Can you take a video of the sound? > > How can they say you “over-revved” the car? If its stock it has a rev-limiter correct? > > Have you checked the heat shields to make sure they aren’t rattling? No heat shields on my car. > [@ouija boards?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ouija-boards/20068/7): > > i’d just bring it to a good shop and stay the fuck away from any dealership at all costs. dealers flat out suck dick. they will backpeddle anything they can to avoid compensating you. they are not your friends. > > if you are confident that the sound is coming from the cylinder head, i’m almost willing to bet, a bent valve or 2… typical symptom of an over rev or moneyshift. i have 2 destroyed s50 motors sitting in my garage dude to moneyshifters. there is another m54 dead at the shop from a moneyshift as well. had compression in all cylinders but cylinder #2 which had like -25 psi. guess what? chunk taken out of that piston. typical valve float issues here. there are handfuls of people who can’t handle driving a manual. i see it every single day. > > i’m through doing pro-bono work or else i’d offer my services. any competent shop can diagnose your issue. without the car being right in front of me it is 100% speculation. > > do a compression test and confirm it is making good equal compression across the board. after that you can rule out a lot of your doubts. like i said, get it diagnosed properly. describing the problem through text on a forum to a bunch of dudes who can barely turn a wrench is not the way to go at it. > > end rant/ Compression test ruled out bent valves. > [@the latest gymnastics recap lol](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-latest-gymnastics-recap-lol/14971/154): > > Totally wrong, don’t anyone listen to this guy. Don’t beat on your engine until the temp gauge has been in the normal operating range for at LEAST a few minutes. > > Trish, aren’t you the one bitching that VTEC does not work when cold? This problem happened due to some sort of neglect. Do a compression test and go from there. I never “bitched” about VTEC not working when cold, I simply said its a known fact and that its good that it doesnt, and that I didnt bother racing someone cause my engine was cold, reference my post if u need to. > [@88slowmarro"](#): > > so much bad info in these posts holy shit ,trish the k20,s are good for spun bearings they sound like a tick but it travels threw the whole motor .the best way of narrowing down a spun lower end is to start the car at idle pull a injector plug and listen to see if the noise gets quieter do that to all cyl,s if ya find one thats the rod that spun ,ya do that to ttake the load off the cyl during its firing stroke is it foolproof no ya really need to get it to a shop and properly diagnosed .do not take it toa tire center and let some tire jockey look at it they will tell ya it needs a wheel bearing as there retarted lololol.yes dealers can void warr do to aftermarket add ons ,do all do it no but most will esp now that the economy is slow and lookin for money.the only cars that have a overrev sensor in em was ford as there junk .trish if ya can call my shop tommorow at 664-1290 ask for john ill see if i can get ya in and look at it benny will tell ya we are top notch and wont fuck ya over shit i prolly wont even charge ya to look at it Thanks for the advice!:thumbup Compression test was perfect! > [@Turbo vs. Procharger, Lt1](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/turbo-vs-procharger-lt1/20029/41): > > If its from bent valves it happened from a mishift. > > I highly doubt its a bearing rattle. > > Unless a real idiot at mohawk honda diagnosed it they are probably correct. Don’t listen to the service writers about ecu codes and such, sometimes they don’t know much and make shit up as they go along > > Either way don’t drive around much as you are pushing your luck with making things a lot worse then they are. Well they were " confident " that it was a bent valve and they were wrong:retardclap > [@Sabres jersey](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sabres-jersey/19967/14): > > I don’t know anything about trish or her car but I see a girl drive past my shop quite often in a black 4 door si ? on rt 50? Yes that would be me, on Tuesdays I go to see my bf up at Gils garage for lunch. ---
**Author:** ![votblindub](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/votblindub/32/6280_2.png) [@votblindub](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/votblindub)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2009, 6:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/help-engine-ticking-bad/245142/138 "2009-07-02T06:04:22Z")
so are you thinking its a lower end problem now that bent valves are 99.9% ruled out? ---
**Author:** ![Tricia](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tricia/32/6426_2.png) [@Tricia](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Tricia)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2009, 6:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/help-engine-ticking-bad/245142/139 "2009-07-02T06:13:08Z")
> [@FS: Sabres v. Penguins 11/17 3 Tickets](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-sabres-v-penguins-11-17-3-tickets/20074/7): > > so are you thinking its a lower end problem now that bent valves are 99.9% ruled out? Im 99% sure its the lifters. Ive done some research and it seems alot of k20’s have a oil issue where the oil doesnt get to the lifters like it should and causes them to go bad, which Honda has to warranty it cause there is no way possible that abuse can cause bad lifters.:thumbup ---
**Author:** ![votblindub](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/votblindub/32/6280_2.png) [@votblindub](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/votblindub)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2009, 6:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/help-engine-ticking-bad/245142/140 "2009-07-02T06:18:31Z")
so warranty work looks like a good possibility? finally a break for poor Tricia 🙂 [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/help-engine-ticking-bad/245142.md?page=6) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/help-engine-ticking-bad/245142.md?page=8)