# Help! ...Failure to Stop @ a Stop Sign

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/help-failure-to-stop-a-stop-sign/121609>\
**Category:** SON240sx Automotive\
**Created:** [February 4, 2009, 11:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/help-failure-to-stop-a-stop-sign/121609 "2009-02-04T11:01:17Z")\
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**Author:** ![RED\_LINE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/red_line/32/5656_2.png) [@RED\_LINE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RED_LINE)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2009, 11:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/help-failure-to-stop-a-stop-sign/121609/1 "2009-02-04T11:01:17Z")

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Just recently today, I was leaving my neighbourhood and I didn’t completely stop @ a stop sign…little do I know cuz of complaints, there was a crackdown today and I got caught unfortunately while heading to school.

I got issued a 85$ ticket totalling $110, and I hear you lose demerit points too:/: this is my first ticket ever, but besides that fact I know I’m in the process of being screwed.

Is there anyway I can avoid losing points from this? anyone been through this?

I’d like to get this figured out as soon as I can, thanks.

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**Author:** ![DA\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ba8739/32.png) [@DA\_1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DA_1)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2009, 11:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/help-failure-to-stop-a-stop-sign/121609/2 "2009-02-04T11:04:24Z")

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i wouldn`t worry TOO much since this is your 1st offence,whatever you do DONT pay it,take it to court…

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**Author:** ![S13counterpart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3e96dc/32.png) [@S13counterpart](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/S13counterpart)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2009, 12:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/help-failure-to-stop-a-stop-sign/121609/3 "2009-02-04T12:05:59Z")

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You can avoid losing points by coming to a full stop the first time around. It’s not hard and it only takes an extra 5 seconds.  
But, since you have already done it. Man up and pay it. Lesson learned. Obey the laws put in place and you won’t get anymore tickets. Unless you enjoy you insurance premiums sky rocketing.

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**Author:** ![RED\_LINE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/red_line/32/5656_2.png) [@RED\_LINE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RED_LINE)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2009, 12:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/help-failure-to-stop-a-stop-sign/121609/4 "2009-02-04T12:09:07Z")

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Lesson learnt, but that answer was pretty bad…I’m sure you wouldn’t just pay a ticket without fighting it if it was risking you losing ur points. 😉

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**Author:** ![Tacoboy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2acd7d/32.png) [@Tacoboy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Tacoboy)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2009, 12:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/help-failure-to-stop-a-stop-sign/121609/5 "2009-02-04T12:13:21Z")

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Lol, they will drop the price of the fine but as long as you are charged with failure to stop, you will get 3 points. I just went through the whole process. Its not a big deal man.

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**Author:** ![jpod89](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jpod89/32/5688_2.png) [@jpod89](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jpod89)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2009, 12:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/help-failure-to-stop-a-stop-sign/121609/6 "2009-02-04T12:15:17Z")

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Watch what I do here:

STOP sign.

_STOP_ sign.

**_STOP_** sign.

Pretty cool eh

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**Author:** ![S13counterpart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3e96dc/32.png) [@S13counterpart](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/S13counterpart)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2009, 12:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/help-failure-to-stop-a-stop-sign/121609/7 "2009-02-04T12:18:17Z")

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To the OP.Yes, as a matter of fact I did. For the EXACT same thing. There’s a 4 way stop 4 houses down from me. About 5 years ago I did what you did. Got a ticket.  
Instead of wasting the courts time for such a trivial mistake. I paid the ticket. Lived with the points.

(Prior to this I was caught doing 180 in an 80. Let off with a warning due to my clean record. Didn’t learn the first time)

I made a mistake. I owned up to my mistake and paid the price for making it. My record is clean now. I learned my lesson and in the 5 years since I haven’t done anything stupid. It really isn’t that hard to follow the rules of the road. It really isn’t…

To jpod89. It’s amazing how hard it is to come to a full stop at a stop sign eh?

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**Author:** ![sil8t](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea666f/32.png) [@sil8t](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sil8t)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2009, 12:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/help-failure-to-stop-a-stop-sign/121609/8 "2009-02-04T12:19:24Z")

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ur a ass. pay the ticket ur clearly in the wrong here

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**Author:** ![nitescream](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/8797f3/32.png) [@nitescream](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/nitescream)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2009, 12:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/help-failure-to-stop-a-stop-sign/121609/9 "2009-02-04T12:20:31Z")

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Why is everyone an asshole when they ask for advice!! EVERYONE on this board has done a rolling stop or something along those lines like speeding or whatever! so if you dont have ADVICE STFU!!

Hey man just go to court and fight it! the worst is that you have to pay!

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**Author:** ![S14Zenki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@S14Zenki](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/S14Zenki)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2009, 12:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/help-failure-to-stop-a-stop-sign/121609/10 "2009-02-04T12:21:29Z")

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Take it to court and challenge the officer’s evidence.

If he doesn’t show up (which is honestly probably around a 70% chance), plea not guilty and walk out with a big grin on your face from paying nothing and getting 0 points. If he does show up, talk to the lawyer in the courtroom (the person you check in with) for a better agreement. If you have to do the latter, I don’t know if you can get off without the points but you’ll at least have a lower fine.

Anyway, it’s pretty much always worth taking a ticket to court with the hope that the officer doesn’t show up (especially minor offenses) since it happens all the time. That is if you have the time (no work/school) to do it.

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**Author:** ![RED\_LINE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/red_line/32/5656_2.png) [@RED\_LINE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RED_LINE)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2009, 12:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/help-failure-to-stop-a-stop-sign/121609/11 "2009-02-04T12:22:35Z")

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> [@NYSpeed will love this v.cubancrisis \*\*\*PICS\*\*\*](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nyspeed-will-love-this-v-cubancrisis-pics/10754/298):
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> Watch what I do here:
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> STOP sign.
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> _STOP_ sign.
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> **_STOP_** sign.
> 
> Pretty cool eh

thanks tips, you want a cracker?

> [@NYSpeed will love this v.cubancrisis \*\*\*PICS\*\*\*](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nyspeed-will-love-this-v-cubancrisis-pics/10754/296):
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> Lol, they will drop the price of the fine but as long as you are charged with failure to stop, you will get 3 points. I just went through the whole process. Its not a big deal man.

Did you fight it with a traffic ticket court specialist? or just pleaded guilty with an explaination?

> [@NYSpeed will love this v.cubancrisis \*\*\*PICS\*\*\*](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nyspeed-will-love-this-v-cubancrisis-pics/10754/300):
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> Why is everyone an asshole when they ask for advice!! EVERYONE on this board has done a rolling stop or something along those lines like speeding or whatever! so if you dont have ADVICE STFU!!
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> Hey man just go to court and fight it! the worst is that you have to pay!

thanks, there’s a honest man right there.  
bunch of you guys, grow up dam hypocrites.

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**Author:** ![Jordan](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jordan/32/5605_2.png) [@Jordan](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jordan)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2009, 12:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/help-failure-to-stop-a-stop-sign/121609/12 "2009-02-04T12:23:00Z")

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Why are you even posting this? Sure its a shitty ticket, but you even admited to doing it.  
Don’t hire one of those POINTS guys. They guarantee to get results or its free… They will get the fine dropped to 0 but charge you $300 to do it and the points/ticket will remain on your insurance record for 3 years. Shit deal; got one myself a few years ago too.

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**Author:** ![jpod89](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jpod89/32/5688_2.png) [@jpod89](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jpod89)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2009, 12:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/help-failure-to-stop-a-stop-sign/121609/13 "2009-02-04T12:24:35Z")

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> [@NYSpeed will love this v.cubancrisis \*\*\*PICS\*\*\*](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nyspeed-will-love-this-v-cubancrisis-pics/10754/300):
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> Why is everyone an asshole when they ask for advice!! EVERYONE on this board has done a rolling stop or something along those lines like speeding or whatever! so if you dont have ADVICE STFU!!
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> Hey man just go to court and fight it! the worst is that you have to pay!

Don’t think it’s about who rolls stop signs. I roll them all the time, if I roll it and get a ticket… I deserve it. There’s no real way to fight it. You either obeyed the STOP sign or you didn’t. It’s not that hard to spend that extra little bit and come to a complete (cops will even deal with the SLIGHTEST roll, so you might not need to COMPLETELY stop) stop. That’s all.

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**Author:** ![S13counterpart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3e96dc/32.png) [@S13counterpart](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/S13counterpart)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2009, 12:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/help-failure-to-stop-a-stop-sign/121609/14 "2009-02-04T12:25:57Z")

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> [@NYSpeed will love this v.cubancrisis \*\*\*PICS\*\*\*](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nyspeed-will-love-this-v-cubancrisis-pics/10754/300):
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> Why is everyone an asshole when they ask for advice!! EVERYONE on this board has done a rolling stop or something along those lines like speeding or whatever! so if you dont have ADVICE STFU!!
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> Hey man just go to court and fight it! the worst is that you have to pay!

Because it’s not hard to obey the law. Everyone has done things like that. But, they only complain when they get caught or get a ticket for it… So you can get away with breaking some sort of law 99.9% of the time. Then when you get caught you whine about it or won’t own up to it?

Hypocritical??? (sp?)

I did give him advice. My advice was to own up to his mistake and live with it.

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**Author:** ![RED\_LINE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/red_line/32/5656_2.png) [@RED\_LINE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RED_LINE)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2009, 12:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/help-failure-to-stop-a-stop-sign/121609/15 "2009-02-04T12:28:34Z")

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^ did I complain? seriously bud…haha.

I made a mistake and I’m trying to find a easier way out and I owned up to it first post, why? cuz I have morals and I’m honest.

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**Author:** ![rogerthat240](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/839c29/32.png) [@rogerthat240](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rogerthat240)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2009, 12:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/help-failure-to-stop-a-stop-sign/121609/16 "2009-02-04T12:31:57Z")

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Worst place to ask for advice.

Fight it, and ignore the hypocrite haters, they’ll just drive you (no pun intended) to say wrong things that do not represent the way you are in real life. Like I said worst place to ask for advice.

Check ontario traffic tickets, they are great, helped me.

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**Author:** ![bounty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/c0e974/32.png) [@bounty](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bounty)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2009, 12:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/help-failure-to-stop-a-stop-sign/121609/17 "2009-02-04T12:37:01Z")

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check out these sites

search google- ontario highway traffic act  
and  
search google- ticket combat

good luck with it

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**Author:** ![rogerthat240](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/839c29/32.png) [@rogerthat240](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rogerthat240)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2009, 12:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/help-failure-to-stop-a-stop-sign/121609/18 "2009-02-04T12:37:44Z")

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[http://www.ontariotraffictickets.com/](http://www.ontariotraffictickets.com/)

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**Author:** ![BRA\_GANZAAAAAA](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bra_ganzaaaaaa/32/5673_2.png) [@BRA\_GANZAAAAAA](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BRA_GANZAAAAAA)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2009, 1:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/help-failure-to-stop-a-stop-sign/121609/19 "2009-02-04T13:02:23Z")

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LOL gurp i got the same ticket in wassaga and u were with me and i was the only guy to get it and we all went through as well as +15 other cars, fought that shit and got off with improper stop and noti stop @ every stop.

just go to court

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**Author:** ![m\_wolfenden](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ce73a5/32.png) [@m\_wolfenden](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/m_wolfenden)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2009, 1:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/help-failure-to-stop-a-stop-sign/121609/20 "2009-02-04T13:06:14Z")

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dont even worry about it…i fight every ticket i get…and ive had 40 over’s which ive had reduced to 10 over in court…ive had every ticket ive ever gotten which is about seven reduced to little or no points…use the system…courts are easy and kinda fun haha…

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