# help :) **URL:** \ **Category:** PittSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [March 11, 2004, 9:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/help/164756 "2004-03-11T21:15:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![brokeasskorean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19b73/32.png) [@brokeasskorean](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/brokeasskorean)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2004, 3:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/help/164756/21 "2004-03-13T15:53:59Z")
> _Originally posted by blazinpink_ > **agreed, however i dont have 3 grand to dump into say a gsr motor…** > > > > **i can get an h22 bout about 800… lots less money… or atleast this is what im being told. > I know that the h22 swap is going ot be difficult. But ia m prepared 🙂** who said u can get a complete swap of a h22 for 800 bucks that will be guaranteed to run and not missing any parts? ---
**Author:** ![Converted2LSX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/converted2lsx/32/5962_2.png) [@Converted2LSX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Converted2LSX)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2004, 4:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/help/164756/22 "2004-03-13T16:13:28Z")
i would definetly go with the GSR motor… I like mine… when it doesnt give me any shit… lol ---
**Author:** ![blazinpink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/71e660/32.png) [@blazinpink](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/blazinpink)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2004, 2:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/help/164756/23 "2004-03-14T02:15:50Z")
lol i got hook ups… and really good friends who have h22’s in their cars and what not… if someone can find me a gsr motor that isnt an assload of money by all means lemme know… lol ---
**Author:** ![imported\_gearhead](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/imported_gearhead/32/5957_2.png) [@imported\_gearhead](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_gearhead)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2004, 6:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/help/164756/24 "2004-03-14T06:38:47Z")
I’ve got a 96 b18b semi complete swap… ctr pistons, crower stg. 3 cams, springs/retainers, mild head work, bottom end is new and balanced for a half decent price. Just needs assembled 👼 ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2004, 8:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/help/164756/25 "2004-03-14T08:28:01Z")
> _Originally posted by blazinpink_ > **lol i got hook ups… and really good friends who have h22’s in their cars and what not…** > > > > **if someone can find me a gsr motor that isnt an assload of money by all means lemme know… lol** cant your hook ups help you out on a gsr swap? ---
**Author:** ![brokeasskorean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19b73/32.png) [@brokeasskorean](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/brokeasskorean)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2004, 8:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/help/164756/26 "2004-03-14T08:29:26Z")
> _Originally posted by Vapor Trail_ > **cant your hook ups help you out on a gsr swap?** seriously,if they can get u an h22 for 800 bucks they can probably get u a gsr swap for 500 ---
**Author:** ![Blazin\_Si](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/2bfe46/32.png) [@Blazin\_Si](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blazin_Si)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2004, 9:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/help/164756/27 "2004-03-15T09:10:51Z")
It’s hard to decide what you want to do when you have a Honda. LS/VTEC’s, CRVTEC’s, B16’s, B17’s B18C’s, H22’s, LS-Turbo, B series Turbo’s etc… If you don’t have much to work with, a Turbo LS would be my first choice. ---
**Author:** ![imported\_SINISTER](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/imported_sinister/32/5970_2.png) [@imported\_SINISTER](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_SINISTER)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2004, 9:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/help/164756/28 "2004-03-15T09:14:15Z")
dont be stupid you allready have a good base/ls motor get a b16 vtec head bam slap it on and be done! or give us a call and let us do it in the process of doing that exact same swap right now! ---
**Author:** ![brokeasskorean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19b73/32.png) [@brokeasskorean](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/brokeasskorean)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2004, 12:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/help/164756/29 "2004-03-15T12:08:06Z")
> _Originally posted by 2FNFast_ > **dont be stupid** > > > > you allready have a good base/ls motor > > get a b16 vtec head bam slap it on and be done! or give us a call and let us do it > > **in the process of doing that exact same swap right now!** in all honesty,if u think just “slapping” a vtec head on a LS bottom end is goin to run good there is something wrong with u… ---
**Author:** ![imported\_gearhead](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/imported_gearhead/32/5957_2.png) [@imported\_gearhead](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_gearhead)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2004, 12:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/help/164756/30 "2004-03-15T12:20:11Z")
> _Originally posted by brokeasskorean_ > **in all honesty,if u think just “slapping” a vtec head on a LS bottom end is goin to run good there is something wrong with u…** x2 ---
**Author:** ![imported\_SINISTER](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/imported_sinister/32/5970_2.png) [@imported\_SINISTER](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_SINISTER)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2004, 12:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/help/164756/31 "2004-03-15T12:30:19Z")
> _Originally posted by brokeasskorean_ > **in all honesty,if u think just “slapping” a vtec head on a LS bottom end is goin to run good there is something wrong with u…** of course there is the plug and you have to run the oil pressure into a t and up in and some othe -6 fittings ---
**Author:** ![brokeasskorean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19b73/32.png) [@brokeasskorean](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/brokeasskorean)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2004, 12:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/help/164756/32 "2004-03-15T12:43:01Z")
> _Originally posted by 2FNFast_ > **of course there is the plug and you have to run the oil pressure into a t and up in and some othe -6 fittings** and the whole only having 9:1 compression will probably also make it slow as dirt ---
**Author:** ![germ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4da419/32.png) [@germ](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/germ)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2004, 2:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/help/164756/33 "2004-03-15T14:32:53Z")
stay away from frank motors unless you are doing a serious build. thats how i feel at least. the h22 swap ends up costing a lot more than the inital cost of the motor. a b18c1 is fun and has lots of potential for either boost or NA. if going ls, turbo will be your cheapest route to good power. ive seen a few guys modifying sohc greddy kits for ls motors with very good results. 8psi by 3k and lots of torque. if you go b18c, try to get a type r tranny. i wish i would have done that to start, now im getting one a year later. ---
**Author:** ![blazinpink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/71e660/32.png) [@blazinpink](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/blazinpink)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2004, 8:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/help/164756/34 "2004-03-16T20:57:44Z")
if i do the type r, can i still turbo it- i just want something fast… im tryng to dtay away from the ls, everyone has it i want something different. ---
**Author:** ![ShalerPunk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shalerpunk/32/5976_2.png) [@ShalerPunk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ShalerPunk)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2004, 9:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/help/164756/35 "2004-03-16T21:05:17Z")
put a C32A in it… 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2004, 9:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/help/164756/36 "2004-03-16T21:58:25Z")
yes you can turbo a ITR block but it is not economicly a good idea. I did it cause I have the ITR block stock it is too much to swap then turbo ---
**Author:** ![ShalerPunk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shalerpunk/32/5976_2.png) [@ShalerPunk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ShalerPunk)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2004, 10:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/help/164756/37 "2004-03-16T22:01:18Z")
what about turboing a B20? I don’t know a whole lot about B-series… wouldn’t that be a good solution for a Civic? ---
**Author:** ![Darkstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@Darkstar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Darkstar)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2004, 10:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/help/164756/38 "2004-03-16T22:32:48Z")
> _Originally posted by blazinpink_ > **if i do the type r, can i still turbo it- i just want something fast… im tryng to dtay away from the ls, everyone has it i want something different.** no. B18C5’s run 11.x:1 compression ratio. you’ll have to immediatly to lower the compression down to 9.x:1, which will in essence be the same thing as a B18C you could have got for a few grand less. From what i understand, ITR cams are also not well suited to boost, and are a bitch to tune around. I mean its certainly possible to do so, as BoostedITR41 and Vapor Trail are both currently running that setup, but that motor came stock in their cars. ---
**Author:** ![brokeasskorean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19b73/32.png) [@brokeasskorean](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/brokeasskorean)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2004, 2:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/help/164756/39 "2004-03-17T02:15:03Z")
> _Originally posted by blazinpink_ > **if i do the type r, can i still turbo it- i just want something fast… im tryng to dtay away from the ls, everyone has it i want something different.** sweetheart no matter what u do to that car,its still a honda.and everyone and there mother has one,and there all motor swapped. ---
**Author:** ![brokeasskorean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19b73/32.png) [@brokeasskorean](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/brokeasskorean)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2004, 2:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/help/164756/40 "2004-03-17T02:15:45Z")
> _Originally posted by ShalerPunk_ > **what about turboing a B20? I don’t know a whole lot about B-series… wouldn’t that be a good solution for a Civic?** stock b20 sleeves are too weak to handle boost [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/help/164756.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/help/164756.md?page=3)