# Here We Go Again... **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [April 18, 2007, 5:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/here-we-go-again/27862 "2007-04-18T17:23:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![RuBiCaNT](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rubicant/32/7622_2.png) [@RuBiCaNT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RuBiCaNT)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 5:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/here-we-go-again/27862/1 "2007-04-18T17:23:50Z")
Fuck You, Dr. Phil… [http://gamepolitics.com/2007/04/17/dr-phil-blames-video-games-for-virginia-tech-massacre/](http://gamepolitics.com/2007/04/17/dr-phil-blames-video-games-for-virginia-tech-massacre/) ---
**Author:** ![Dex](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dex/32/7210_2.png) [@Dex](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dex)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 5:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/here-we-go-again/27862/2 "2007-04-18T17:24:39Z")
lol. advocacy groups are blocked at work. in for when i get home because i’m sure this will set me off in a rage. ---
**Author:** ![Bacon](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bacon/32/7230_2.png) [@Bacon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bacon)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 5:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/here-we-go-again/27862/3 "2007-04-18T17:25:16Z")
[quote=“FuzzyFish,post:164,topic:27711"”] > **[OB9 Casino - Trusted Online Casino Malaysia](https://gamepolitics.com/en/ob9-casino/)** > > OB9 Casino is a contemporary online gambling platform known for its comprehensive range of gaming options, innovative features, and robust security measures. So starts the blame game. [/quote] Jack Thompson also was in another article somewhere. But what else is new. [quote=“Teh Article”"] ``` LARRY KING: Why, though - OK, you want to kill someone, you’re crazed, you’re a little nuts, girlfriend drops you, why do you kill innocent people?… Dr. McGraw, are they treatable? DR. PHIL: Well, Larry, every situation is different… The question really is can we spot them. And the problem is we are programming these people as a society. You cannot tell me - common sense tells you that if these kids are playing video games, where they’re on a mass killing spree in a video game, it’s glamorized on the big screen, it’s become part of the fiber of our society. You take that and mix it with a psychopath, a sociopath or someone suffering from mental illness and add in a dose of rage, the suggestibility is too high. And we’re going to have to start dealing with that. We’re going to have to start addressing those issues and recognizing that the mass murders of tomorrow are the children of today that are being programmed with this massive violence overdose. ``` [/quote] ---
**Author:** ![BOBBYGRV](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@BOBBYGRV](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BOBBYGRV)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 5:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/here-we-go-again/27862/4 "2007-04-18T17:26:14Z")
wow they didnt use marilyn manson this time ---
**Author:** ![Bacon](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bacon/32/7230_2.png) [@Bacon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bacon)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 5:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/here-we-go-again/27862/5 "2007-04-18T17:27:35Z")
Obviously the influence of Dungeon’s & Dragons is at foot here. ---
**Author:** ![Dex](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dex/32/7210_2.png) [@Dex](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dex)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 5:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/here-we-go-again/27862/6 "2007-04-18T17:28:51Z")
oh it’s the one fuzzy posted already. this blame game thing is so stupid. i have been avoiding watching the news on this. inevitably some idiot gets up and starts blaming everything from internet pornography to video games for this. it’s such bullshit. ---
**Author:** ![RuBiCaNT](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rubicant/32/7622_2.png) [@RuBiCaNT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RuBiCaNT)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 5:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/here-we-go-again/27862/7 "2007-04-18T17:29:49Z")
[quote=“FuzzyFish,post:5,topic:27862"”] Obviously the influence of Dungeon’s & Dragons is at foot here. [/quote] Obviously violent movies like Fight Club, The Devil’s Rejects, 300, etc are to blame as well. ---
**Author:** ![Rx3](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rx3/32/7194_2.png) [@Rx3](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Rx3)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 5:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/here-we-go-again/27862/8 "2007-04-18T17:41:04Z")
Oh don’t you worry, Marylin has a new album coming out, they’ll be calling his name shortly 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Ovrwrkd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ovrwrkd/32/7586_2.png) [@Ovrwrkd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Ovrwrkd)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 5:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/here-we-go-again/27862/9 "2007-04-18T17:48:13Z")
I blame Dr. Phil. If I watched his show for an hour I’d probably want to kill a bunch of people! :bloated: The kid was in a mental institution, there are so many places to lay blame that its not even funny. Maybe he was beaten as a kid or mommy didn’t breast feed him long enough. Ugh… ignorance is bliss I guess :gotme: ---
**Author:** ![Violator](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/violator/32/7278_2.png) [@Violator](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Violator)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 6:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/here-we-go-again/27862/10 "2007-04-18T18:05:18Z")
while I dont agree with any major censorship of video games or media I do agree with this statement: “they’re on a mass killing spree in a video game, it’s glamorized on the big screen, it’s become part of the fiber of our society. You take that and mix it with a psychopath, a sociopath or someone suffering from mental illness and add in a dose of rage, the **_suggestibility_** is too high.” While you and I easily know the difference etween a game and reality, someone with unstable psychology can easily intertwine the two. The ricers and the idiotic videos on you tube, and the ridiculous forum threads have shown us just how incredably stupid many of the people growing up are. Time and time again. The suggestiblity factor is very high. Parents are the #1 problem, then schools and society/culture ---
**Author:** ![Mrs\_Karus](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mrs_karus/32/7426_2.png) [@Mrs\_Karus](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mrs_Karus)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 6:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/here-we-go-again/27862/11 "2007-04-18T18:17:58Z")
Wonder when the first movie/book will come out on this. I’m sitting in the airport… all these people wearing virginia tech hoodies walked by me, smiling. ---
**Author:** ![Bacon](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bacon/32/7230_2.png) [@Bacon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bacon)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2007, 12:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/here-we-go-again/27862/12 "2007-04-19T00:01:08Z")
Michael Moore I give it 3 months. ---
**Author:** ![Jam](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jam/32/7235_2.png) [@Jam](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jam)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2007, 12:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/here-we-go-again/27862/13 "2007-04-19T00:10:08Z")
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**Author:** ![JEG](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jeg/32/7246_2.png) [@JEG](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JEG)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2007, 5:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/here-we-go-again/27862/14 "2007-04-19T05:22:50Z")
[quote=“Violator,post:10,topic:27862"”] while I dont agree with any major censorship of video games or media I do agree with this statement: “they’re on a mass killing spree in a video game, it’s glamorized on the big screen, it’s become part of the fiber of our society. You take that and mix it with a psychopath, a sociopath or someone suffering from mental illness and add in a dose of rage, the **_suggestibility_** is too high.” While you and I easily know the difference etween a game and reality, someone with unstable psychology can easily intertwine the two. The ricers and the idiotic videos on you tube, and the ridiculous forum threads have shown us just how incredably stupid many of the people growing up are. Time and time again. The suggestiblity factor is very high. Parents are the #1 problem, then schools and society/culture [/quote] :word: Violent video games do tend to make us desensitized to violence to a certain degree, but it takes a pre-existing mental illness to take it to a level that crosses over to the reality thresh hold. I am an EMT, I have seen things that will make you puke and give you nightmares for a year…but I don’t go out killing people. This person was obviously fucked up and blaming video games is just a way to alleviate the personal responsibility that he had to what he did. Everybody is so quick to blame the person’s upbringing or violence in the media etc. before they say “hey, this guy was just some psycho nut whack job”. They try to make him look like a victim of society and place the blame on everybody as opposed to just the person who did it. [quote=“FuzzyFish,post:12,topic:27862"”] Michael Moore I give it 3 months. [/quote] Don’t get me started on that vulture piece of shit. ---
**Author:** ![Bigairskier1580](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bigairskier1580/32/7612_2.png) [@Bigairskier1580](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bigairskier1580)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2007, 5:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/here-we-go-again/27862/15 "2007-04-19T05:31:21Z")
Glorifying violenece has been around for thousands of years. Look back on historya nd you’ll see all the examples where people were murdered for entertainment. And just to get you started, I’ll give you a hint. Roman Empire - The Colosseum ---
**Author:** ![JEG](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jeg/32/7246_2.png) [@JEG](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JEG)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2007, 5:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/here-we-go-again/27862/16 "2007-04-19T05:40:09Z")
Oh I agree completely. It boils down to satisfying our animalistic primal urges for violence. But the problem is, some people can’t keep it as entertainment and they cross over the boundry of harmless fun into reality. ---
**Author:** ![RuBiCaNT](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rubicant/32/7622_2.png) [@RuBiCaNT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RuBiCaNT)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2007, 5:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/here-we-go-again/27862/17 "2007-04-19T05:43:00Z")
It’s the same arguement that guns don’t kill people, people do. You can’t blame violent games as a reason for people getting murdered. If you are unstable and on meds, you shouldn’t have access to guns. Really the school is to blame for not doing something about this kid. ---
**Author:** ![Bigairskier1580](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bigairskier1580/32/7612_2.png) [@Bigairskier1580](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bigairskier1580)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2007, 5:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/here-we-go-again/27862/18 "2007-04-19T05:43:27Z")
Oh god. Do I actualy aggree with something Jeg said? And I thought it was unpossible.