# High-Profile, High-End Build Threads = More User Control

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/high-profile-high-end-build-threads-more-user-control/215413>\
**Category:** Builds\
**Created:** [August 11, 2011, 10:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/high-profile-high-end-build-threads-more-user-control/215413 "2011-08-11T22:36:49Z")\
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**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 8:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/high-profile-high-end-build-threads-more-user-control/215413/41 "2011-08-12T08:24:09Z")

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> [@Mike93](#):
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> But this isn’t the case…they’re filled with a lot of useless shit from people. As a few have already mentioned, there are builds that we haven’t even seen since the builder doesn’t want to go through the annoyances.

Then maybe moderators should do their jobs…

I’m not saying it should be a free for all, but mods can hand out warnings and bans to troublemakers. Then they can edit out BS according to some pre-determined policy. Then we actually get some consistency and a policy that could leave useful information and on-topic remarks in the thread.

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**Author:** ![Neon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f19dbf/32.png) [@Neon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Neon)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 8:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/high-profile-high-end-build-threads-more-user-control/215413/42 "2011-08-12T08:31:51Z")

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> [@boardjnky4](#):
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> then maybe moderators should do their jobs…

You missed the point of this also giving the thread op control over redundant/dumb questions that are already answered and removal of general clutter, not just troll posts.

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 8:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/high-profile-high-end-build-threads-more-user-control/215413/43 "2011-08-12T08:35:28Z")

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I like it. If these members are willing to put hundreds of hours into their projects and want to share it with the forum they should be allowed to moderate the BS. :tup:

And lol @ the guy who’s biggest “build thread” was a boost gauge and springs putting up such a stink about it. Even without the shitshow the whole discussion about proper harness wiring would have been better off in a separate thread from the build thread anyway. Builds should be about THE BUILD, not 20 pages of discussion, haters, and nutswingers. If you’ve got a question about part of the build or find something especially interesting, start a thread about it in gen auto. Then when you get 10+ members debating best practices you don’t clutter up a thread that is supposed to be about a specific build.

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**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 8:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/high-profile-high-end-build-threads-more-user-control/215413/44 "2011-08-12T08:38:14Z")

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> [@JayS](#):
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> I like it. If these members are willing to put hundreds of hours into their projects and want to share it with the forum they should be allowed to moderate the BS. :tup:
> 
> And lol @ the guy who’s biggest “build thread” was a boost gauge and springs putting up such a stink about it. Even without the shitshow the whole discussion about proper harness wiring would have been better off in a separate thread from the build thread anyway. Builds should be about THE BUILD, not 20 pages of discussion, haters, and nutswingers. If you’ve got a question about part of the build or find something especially interesting, start a thread about it in gen auto. Then when you get 10+ members debating best practices you don’t clutter up a thread that is supposed to be about a specific build.

I was never good about taking pictures when I built my civic, but i did a TON of work on that car. Built it from a completely torn down shell (100% bare) to boosted 100% functioning. I didn’t have the money to make it flawless, but it was huge learning experience and I still love learning about how to do this kind of stuff.

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**Author:** ![Final\_GTS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/final_gts/32/7359_2.png) [@Final\_GTS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Final_GTS)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 10:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/high-profile-high-end-build-threads-more-user-control/215413/45 "2011-08-12T10:00:48Z")

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> [@brilliantyellowg60](#):
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> your name calling and insults are childish, i made one comment that wasnt even hash just my opinion  
> the fact that they have to create a pedestal for you to sit on and pat yourself on the back is fucking ridiculous.
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> honestly i stopped posting my build threads due to lack of time, but calling me ignorant, and asshole and an attention whore is comical  
> it just shows your personality, and i am about as impressed with that as i am with your wiring

1. I wasnt even talking to you.

2. I had nothing to do with this “pedestal”. perhaps you should read two more posts down the page where I said I don’t care if they do this or not? Shit… isn’t that what got you into to trouble multiple times in another thread I can mention?

3. I have about as much respect for your opinion of my wiring as I do the green goo floating down Ellicott Creek right now. You have still failed to explain how or why its “wrong”, or how or why “you can do it better”. You have ZERO grasp of the problem, yet seem to have all the answers. Funny how when the harness was done, it looked JUST LIKE IT DID FROM THE FACTORY, with all of the right parts for the job, assembled correctly. Yet its all wrong? Gee… you might want to tell Dodge that you dont like how it looked when they built a wiring harness over a decade ago. They will care I am sure.

4. Stop being so butthurt that you made a fool of yourself and everyone noticed.

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**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 10:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/high-profile-high-end-build-threads-more-user-control/215413/46 "2011-08-12T10:04:15Z")

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I just checked outside and I am pretty sure it’s still summer time. Save this drama for the winter months.

Final GTS, keep building fantastic vipers.

Brilliantyellow, keep building custom ass dubs. I was impressed with that build thread.

Mods, give builders control if they want it, keep an eye on it, and hopefully it doesn’t get out of control.

/thread.

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**Author:** ![Z28pr0jekt](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/z28pr0jekt/32/5393_2.png) [@Z28pr0jekt](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Z28pr0jekt)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 10:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/high-profile-high-end-build-threads-more-user-control/215413/47 "2011-08-12T10:11:35Z")

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I like the idea. In all honesty what turned me on to this site was newman’s build. However it was terrible just trying to sift through and find newman’s posts through 100+ pages.

I think it’s as simple as having a main thread and then a secondary thread for people to ask questions or what not. That way you can easily scroll the progress of the build without having to see a bunch of garbage. Then anyone who has a legit question or comment can just use the secondary thread to do so.

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**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 10:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/high-profile-high-end-build-threads-more-user-control/215413/48 "2011-08-12T10:14:12Z")

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IMO; builds threads should be done in a blog format with comments allowed for each blog post but not posts themselves. Much like how certain threads get switched over to blog style for the homepage.

This way comments could still be allowed mostly unedited (simply moderated by site mods) but if they are off topic or critical of the build they are a simple footnote on the actual thread progression.

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**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 10:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/high-profile-high-end-build-threads-more-user-control/215413/49 "2011-08-12T10:24:52Z")

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> [@Z28pr0jekt](#):
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> I like the idea. In all honesty what turned me on to this site was newman’s build. However it was terrible just trying to sift through and find newman’s posts through 100+ pages.
> 
> I think it’s as simple as having a main thread and then a secondary thread for people to ask questions or what not. That way you can easily scroll the progress of the build without having to see a bunch of garbage. Then anyone who has a legit question or comment can just use the secondary thread to do so.

> [@mafdark](#):
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> IMO; builds threads should be done in a blog format with comments allowed for each blog post but not posts themselves. Much like how certain threads get switched over to blog style for the homepage.
> 
> This way comments could still be allowed mostly unedited (simply moderated by site mods) but if they are off topic or critical of the build they are a simple footnote on the actual thread progression.

Not sure why I keep doing this but there is a simple way to do what both of you suggest

Edit the Original Post. Then the entire build will be within 1 post, with all comments/questions after it.

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**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 10:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/high-profile-high-end-build-threads-more-user-control/215413/50 "2011-08-12T10:27:01Z")

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> [@boardjnky4](#):
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> Not sure why I keep doing this but there is a simple way to do what both of you suggest
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> Edit the Original Post. Then the entire build will be within 1 post, with all comments/questions after it.

that still becomes difficult to read and sort through. Think of if newmans thread was one page long with hundreds of pictures…

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**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 10:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/high-profile-high-end-build-threads-more-user-control/215413/51 "2011-08-12T10:28:13Z")

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oh I see what you’re saying now…yeah, it might make a bit more sense that way.

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**Author:** ![LUKE\_L](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/luke_l/32/7462_2.png) [@LUKE\_L](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LUKE_L)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 10:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/high-profile-high-end-build-threads-more-user-control/215413/52 "2011-08-12T10:30:05Z")

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I think it is a great idea…I would never moderate my own thread though. I like seeing everyones input.

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**Author:** ![travisn](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/travisn/32/5046_2.png) [@travisn](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/travisn)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 10:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/high-profile-high-end-build-threads-more-user-control/215413/53 "2011-08-12T10:41:20Z")

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so why was ls1/fd swap thread closed?

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**Author:** ![Rx7walker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rx7walker/32/5441_2.png) [@Rx7walker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Rx7walker)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 11:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/high-profile-high-end-build-threads-more-user-control/215413/54 "2011-08-12T11:48:10Z")

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IMO: I think this is great for getting rid of bullshit and letting the user post the legitimately asked questions. tired of seeing the bashing and the people who think they know it all, when they usually know nothing.

> [@travisn](#):
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> so why was ls1/fd swap thread closed?

My guess is Drew spends countless hours/money doing HIS project and idiots try to tell him what he should do next. I can tell you that he built it for himself. People who know me know why i never did a build thread.  
The reason people do builds is to get self satisfaction out of their project, and the bottom line is that if you are building a car like this for Sack-Riding and others approval you are doing it for all the wrong reasons.  
S

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**Author:** ![travisn](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/travisn/32/5046_2.png) [@travisn](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/travisn)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 12:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/high-profile-high-end-build-threads-more-user-control/215413/55 "2011-08-12T12:18:28Z")

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> [@Rx7walker](#):
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> My guess is Drew spends countless hours/money doing HIS project and idiots try to tell him what he should do next. I can tell you that he built it for himself. People who know me know why i never did a build thread.  
> The reason people do builds is to get self satisfaction out of their project, and the bottom line is that if you are building a car like this for Sack-Riding and others approval you are doing it for all the wrong reasons.  
> S

No. I think you are wrong. If doing a build is for self satisfaction it would never make it to the internet. It goes on the internet to show off their skills or whatever. Either way, it doesn’t explain why it was closed as soon as the car was finished.

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**Author:** ![91MR2](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/91mr2/32/7217_2.png) [@91MR2](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/91MR2)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 12:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/high-profile-high-end-build-threads-more-user-control/215413/56 "2011-08-12T12:20:54Z")

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I build cars for the respect…to some people that matters more…

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**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 2:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/high-profile-high-end-build-threads-more-user-control/215413/57 "2011-08-12T14:06:13Z")

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Drew closed his own thread. He’s going to enjoy driving the car for the time being and will update it later.

> [@mafdark](#):
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> IMO; builds threads should be done in a blog format…

Unfortunately vB designed the blog function of the forum as an afterthought. It doesn’t integrate well and doesn’t even show up in ‘new posts’ at the moment.

We’re going to stick with threads for the builds.

> [@focusinprogress](#):
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> … is it possible to “edit” the banter from a specific post so that only the valuable information is left in it instead of deleting it?

No one will have the power to edit other people’s posts. They will have 2 new controls:

- Ability to edit the thread title (Example; “New Pic’s Page 34!”)
- Ability to soft-remove posts (posts can still be seen by the staff.)

If your post gets pulled by a threads owner and you feel it’s important enough, simply start your own thread based on that post. We can then copy or move relevant posts from the build thread over to your new discussion topic.

And I’ll mention this point again because I think it’s important;

> [@Onyx Z32](#):
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> If you want to abuse it you run the risk of giving yourself a shitty reputation and in that sense, it’s self-regulating.

If you want to be a total penis about how you manage your build thread, you’ll sink it and yourself quick. In order for it to be successful you’ll have to promote intelligent discussion.

> [@boardjnky4](#):
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> Then maybe moderators should do their jobs…

As I already said;

> [@Onyx Z32](#):
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> Oh they have been, it’s just that you can’t see their work or even notice it since it’s in such low quantity. The Final GTS post thread being an exception though.

Also, the mods don’t always know who’s friends with who; who’s just joking around and who’s being a smart ass instigator. On a large forum like this one, the owner of the build thread is more capable of determining this.

> [@JayS](#):
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> I like it. If these members are willing to put hundreds of hours into their projects and want to share it with the forum they should be allowed to moderate the BS. :tup:

Bingo.

The goal of this is to encourage more people to create and maintain build threads. Not to help get;

> [@TrueBlue](#):
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> … More site traffic.

If this was simply about site traffic & numbers we’d want to KEEP the OT & drama posts. We’d want to pad each build thread with as many posts as possible and encourage BS back-n-forth conversations. That’s obviously not the case.

We’re going to try this out and see how it works. If there is some unseen dire consequence as a result we can always change it back. But at the moment the positives far outweigh the negatives, and the responses in this thread from guys who have or are planing to create build threads only reenforces the argument for it.

Thanks for all the input guys :tup:

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**Author:** ![somedude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecd19e/32.png) [@somedude](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/somedude)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2011, 12:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/high-profile-high-end-build-threads-more-user-control/215413/58 "2011-09-19T12:10:09Z")

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I agree with this. I stopped updating my SHO powered camaro thread on NYspeed because the majority of people are shit bags. If you don’t like the project I don’t care don’t read/post in my thread. I still keep other forums updated though. My build thread is 10 pages and probably 8 pages of people telling me to die in a fire for pulling a V8 out of a car that didn’t have a V8 in it when I bought it.

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**Author:** ![38stang](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/38stang/32/7479_2.png) [@38stang](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/38stang)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2011, 12:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/high-profile-high-end-build-threads-more-user-control/215413/59 "2011-09-19T12:18:44Z")

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Idk how I missed this. Great idea. Makes me want to make a build thread now

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**Author:** ![91MR2](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/91mr2/32/7217_2.png) [@91MR2](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/91MR2)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2011, 1:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/high-profile-high-end-build-threads-more-user-control/215413/60 "2011-09-19T13:42:01Z")

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> [@somedude](#):
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> …8 pages of people telling me to die in a fire for pulling a V8 out of a car that didn’t have a V8 in it when I bought it.

There are def. a lot of cunts on here…

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