# Home Noco Electric and Gas program.
**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/home-noco-electric-and-gas-program/47177
**Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic
**Created:** [April 21, 2008, 12:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/home-noco-electric-and-gas-program/47177 "2008-04-21T12:31:44Z")
**Posts on this page:** 14
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### Author:  [@JustinH](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JustinH)
#### Post date: [April 21, 2008, 12:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/home-noco-electric-and-gas-program/47177/1 "2008-04-21T12:31:44Z")
Is anybody using a different electric/natural gas provider in their home due to deregulation?
I seen ads at the noco gas stations that they have now become a provider for home natural gas and electric.
According to their website they “guarantee” that you will pay less in your bill, but are pretty vague.
[http://www.noco.com/content/\_residential/natural\_gas.html](http://www.noco.com/content/_residential/natural_gas.html)
**[http://www.noco.com/content/\_residential/electricity.html](http://www.noco.com/content/_residential/electricity.html)**
I remember reading several years ago that people who change from the default carrier end up sometimes paying more than they would with the default carrier…
Is anyone doing this?
Seriously what can be saved in a regular household on a monthly basis?
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### Author:  [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)
#### Post date: [April 21, 2008, 12:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/home-noco-electric-and-gas-program/47177/2 "2008-04-21T12:41:59Z")
Every flyer I’ve received has sounded sketchy as hell so I’ve always just tossed them with the rest of the junk mail.
On the NOCO link you posted their bold print is bragging about saving 3% on something that makes up probably less than 20% of your bill. If that’s what they’re bragging about in their bolded statement I’d hate to see the fine print.
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### Author:  [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)
#### Post date: [April 21, 2008, 12:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/home-noco-electric-and-gas-program/47177/3 "2008-04-21T12:46:07Z")
you can get a list from the state and go down the list looking for the best fixed and variable rates… there’s some money to be saved, but it’s not an insane difference.
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### Author:  [@JustinH](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JustinH)
#### Post date: [April 21, 2008, 12:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/home-noco-electric-and-gas-program/47177/4 "2008-04-21T12:48:59Z")
They say that they guarantee that you save two tax portions on your bill.
Plus you save a bit on the actual fuel.
Doesn’t seem to be much.
I was just wondering if anyone had any real world numbers with a regular house.
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### Author:  [@Viper966](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Viper966)
#### Post date: [April 21, 2008, 12:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/home-noco-electric-and-gas-program/47177/5 "2008-04-21T12:49:34Z")
> [@theblue](#):
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> you can get a list from the state and go down the list looking for the best fixed and variable rates… there’s some money to be saved, but it’s not an insane difference.
i really looked into this about 18 months ago when i first got my apt, and it was going to be a differance of about 8-11 dollars per month on my $75 bill… not much
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### Author:  [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)
#### Post date: [April 21, 2008, 12:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/home-noco-electric-and-gas-program/47177/6 "2008-04-21T12:52:43Z")
that’s about what i’m saving… my big point here is do your own research and don’t just go with the one flyer that you happen to read.
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### Author:  [@JustinH](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JustinH)
#### Post date: [April 21, 2008, 12:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/home-noco-electric-and-gas-program/47177/7 "2008-04-21T12:54:35Z")
So about 10 percent for making one phone call?
Noco is a somewhat trustworthy operation here in WNY.
10 bucks off a 75 dollar bill isn’t bad.
30 bucks a month off the winter 225 dollar fuel bill would be helpful.
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### Author:  [@Viper966](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Viper966)
#### Post date: [April 21, 2008, 12:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/home-noco-electric-and-gas-program/47177/8 "2008-04-21T12:55:35Z")
be careful, a bunch of companies have “intro rates” which will initally save you like half your bill… then you get a surprise in 90 days…
the best way i found to do, was to “lcok in” your rates before hand… but i couldnt do that since i knew i would be moving before 12mo was up, and if you move, you loose the rate and the remaining “gas” you prepurchase
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### Author:  [@Viper966](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Viper966)
#### Post date: [April 21, 2008, 12:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/home-noco-electric-and-gas-program/47177/9 "2008-04-21T12:56:21Z")
> [@JustinH](#):
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> So about 10 percent for making one phone call?
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> Noco is a somewhat trustworthy operation here in WNY.
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> 10 bucks off a 75 dollar bill isn’t bad.
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> 30 bucks a month off the winter 225 dollar fuel bill would be helpful.
its not a %, its just 8-10 bux max… it doesnt really follow bill prices as much as you would hope
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### Author:  [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)
#### Post date: [April 21, 2008, 12:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/home-noco-electric-and-gas-program/47177/10 "2008-04-21T12:56:55Z")
> [@Viper966](#):
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> i really looked into this about 18 months ago when i first got my apt, and it was going to be a differance of about 8-11 dollars per month on my $75 bill… not much
10% is a pretty food discount assuming there are no real bad fine print clauses
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### Author:  [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)
#### Post date: [April 21, 2008, 1:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/home-noco-electric-and-gas-program/47177/11 "2008-04-21T13:03:09Z")
> [@Nikuk](#):
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> 10% is a pretty food discount assuming there are no real bad fine print clauses
Hungry? Got food on the mind?
On topic, when this was deregulated I think everyone was hoping for the kind of competition you saw with the phone companies. The problem is the phone companies had a cost of building the network then a tiny cost maintaining that network. Gas and electric have a cost building the delivery system, maintaining that delivery system, and a huge cost constantly replenishing the product they’re selling you. There isn’t a lot of room for competition to lower the price IMO.
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### Author:  [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)
#### Post date: [April 21, 2008, 1:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/home-noco-electric-and-gas-program/47177/12 "2008-04-21T13:03:53Z")
see: [http://www.dps.state.ny.us/yourenergy.htm](http://www.dps.state.ny.us/yourenergy.htm)
just decide if you want fixed (you think rates will go up) or variable (you think rates will stay the same or go down).
then pick the cheapest. you don’t need trustworthy, only cheap. it’s not like you’re getting a higher quality of electricity or that one of these companies will go under and you lights will shut off.
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### Author:  [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)
#### Post date: [April 21, 2008, 1:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/home-noco-electric-and-gas-program/47177/13 "2008-04-21T13:05:13Z")
> [@Nikuk](#):
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> 10% is a pretty food discount assuming there are no real bad fine print clauses
I wonder what kind of man I’m going to have for dinner…
So where do you go for discounts on pretty long dicked whores??
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### Author:  [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)
#### Post date: [April 21, 2008, 1:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/home-noco-electric-and-gas-program/47177/14 "2008-04-21T13:29:53Z")
FUCK IT, I’M GOING HOME, WHERE I HAVE NATURAL GAS BY NATFUEL.