# Home Window plastic thermal barrier... Questions... **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [January 2, 2009, 9:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/home-window-plastic-thermal-barrier-questions/60627 "2009-01-02T09:46:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![JustinH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9fc29f/32.png) [@JustinH](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JustinH)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2009, 1:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/home-window-plastic-thermal-barrier-questions/60627/41 "2009-01-02T13:50:50Z")
Also grab a tube of caulk, a dripless caulk gun, and start sealing around the windows. Took me about an hour to do 20 windows in my house, and there were a ton of drafts! The window film doesn’t look bad if you do it right. I have one window that leaks really bad, that the film started blowing up like a balloon then fell off. New windows in the spring time for sure… The lower of my duplex was 135 dollars last month, we keep it at 58 when at work, and 62-64 when home. Also switch your energy provider, I’m saving almost 20 bucks a month (not much, but yours will be more)… > **[Switch your Natural Fuel Provider and Save Money.](http://thinkcheaply.blogspot.com/2009/01/switch-your-natural-fuel-provider-and.html)** > > This one turned out to be an absolute no brainer for me, and a home run as well. Thanks to utility deregulation, consumers are now free to... ---
**Author:** ![rojaul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6de8d8/32.png) [@rojaul](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rojaul)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2009, 1:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/home-window-plastic-thermal-barrier-questions/60627/42 "2009-01-02T13:53:21Z")
you may also want to check your furnace. check the filter to make sure it is clean, and watch the burners as they are running. the flame should be blue, if it is yellow/orange it may need some adjustments. ---
**Author:** ![98SS10](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/98ss10/32/7288_2.png) [@98SS10](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/98SS10)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2009, 2:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/home-window-plastic-thermal-barrier-questions/60627/43 "2009-01-02T14:03:41Z")
damn, in my drafty 1900sq ft house i only pay a tad over 200/month. yer shits crazy high! ---
**Author:** ![Xander](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/xander/32/7597_2.png) [@Xander](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Xander)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2009, 2:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/home-window-plastic-thermal-barrier-questions/60627/44 "2009-01-02T14:06:37Z")
> [@ILC](#): > > inefficient per amount of air yes… but i put my hand on the plastic. and its warm to the touch. Its doing its job and I’m happy 🙂 > > When we had that big snow storm, and it was 8 degrees it looked like the gates of hell in the breezeway… the ice was just forming all over the wall and the door on the inside like something seriously evil trying to get in The plastic heats easily. If you have any air leaks in or out of the air “pocket” then the cold air can get in there, and it is really not that efficient at that point. The whole idea behind the sealed air space is to make the heat transfer process take longer. _Normal sealed thermal glass_ Roomside heat heats up the interior window pane window pane heats up the air air heats the next window pane window pane **loses heat to the outside.** _If you have any air leaks_ Roomside heat heats up the interior window pane window pane heats up the **air that leaks outside.** That’s why they use Argon/Krypton gas between panes of modern windows because that air is more dense and takes longer to heat, and slows down the heat transfer process (you can’t really eliminate it) All in all the plastic stops the drafts. X… ---
**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2009, 2:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/home-window-plastic-thermal-barrier-questions/60627/45 "2009-01-02T14:28:44Z")
You guys are missing the point. When my furnace kicks on it runs at full blast non-stop until the program switches to 50. Even if i let it get down to 30, it wouldn’t make a difference. ---
**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2009, 2:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/home-window-plastic-thermal-barrier-questions/60627/46 "2009-01-02T14:48:44Z")
then your house leaks like a sieve. where is the tstat itself located? the furnace should run until the tstat warms up to set temp, then shutoff. if the tstat is next to an open window, it’ll run constantly. does the apt actually warm up or do you have a POS tstat? ---
**Author:** ![97FormulaWS-6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/97formulaws-6/32/7384_2.png) [@97FormulaWS-6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/97FormulaWS-6)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2009, 2:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/home-window-plastic-thermal-barrier-questions/60627/47 "2009-01-02T14:50:32Z")
> [@98SS10](#): > > damn, in my drafty 1900sq ft house i only pay a tad over 200/month. yer shits crazy high! same here; I’m ~1700sqft though… ---
**Author:** ![Boarderx192](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b782af/32.png) [@Boarderx192](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boarderx192)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2009, 2:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/home-window-plastic-thermal-barrier-questions/60627/48 "2009-01-02T14:51:21Z")
Damn $300 just for heat is crazy. I live in ATL and have a 775sqft apartment that is all electric. I keep the temp at 72 all day ever day and my bill was $58 for last month. My mom used to use the plastic on the windows and she says it helps. ---
**Author:** ![Wookie](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/wookie/32/5153_2.png) [@Wookie](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Wookie)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2009, 2:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/home-window-plastic-thermal-barrier-questions/60627/49 "2009-01-02T14:56:08Z")
How old is your house? A lot of the older ones don’t have any insulation in the walls. ---
**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2009, 2:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/home-window-plastic-thermal-barrier-questions/60627/50 "2009-01-02T14:59:11Z")
> [@Wookie](#): > > How old is your house? A lot of the older ones don’t have any insulation in the walls. It’s old and it’s a carriage house… ---
**Author:** ![Wookie](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/wookie/32/5153_2.png) [@Wookie](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Wookie)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2009, 3:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/home-window-plastic-thermal-barrier-questions/60627/51 "2009-01-02T15:06:37Z")
Well talk to your landlord and get him to do something about it. I was looking at investment properties about six months ago, A 2800 sq ft double would have cost me about 2 grand to insulate with blown in. Does he live there too? ---
**Author:** ![Jack](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jack/32/7613_2.png) [@Jack](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jack)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2009, 3:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/home-window-plastic-thermal-barrier-questions/60627/52 "2009-01-02T15:56:29Z")
Just cause your gas bill is $300 doesn’t mean it is all for heating the house. Unless your furnace is the only thing in your house that runs on gas. I just put 40 rolls of insulation in the attic to help a little… New windows are next… plastic is for poor people. x2 ---
**Author:** ![Xander](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/xander/32/7597_2.png) [@Xander](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Xander)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2009, 4:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/home-window-plastic-thermal-barrier-questions/60627/53 "2009-01-02T16:04:24Z")
If it leaks that bad, move out. X… ---
**Author:** ![BigRon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/58956e/32.png) [@BigRon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigRon)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2009, 4:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/home-window-plastic-thermal-barrier-questions/60627/54 "2009-01-02T16:09:03Z")
We did it at the house we are renting. It helped a bunch. Looks ghetto but we keep the blinds shut anyways so who cares. ---
**Author:** ![Wookie](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/wookie/32/5153_2.png) [@Wookie](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Wookie)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2009, 4:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/home-window-plastic-thermal-barrier-questions/60627/55 "2009-01-02T16:12:42Z")
> [@Jack](#): > > Just cause your gas bill is $300 doesn’t mean it is all for heating the house. Unless your furnace is the only thing in your house that runs on gas. > > I just put 40 rolls of insulation in the attic to help a little… > New windows are next… > > plastic is for poor people. x2 Heating is a good chunk of it. Insulating the walls will help if they’re empty right now. ---
**Author:** ![JustinH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9fc29f/32.png) [@JustinH](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JustinH)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2009, 4:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/home-window-plastic-thermal-barrier-questions/60627/56 "2009-01-02T16:14:04Z")
> [@Xander](#): > > If it leaks that bad, move out. > > X… Seriously… My buddy was paying huge money for an allentown apartment for years, and his heating bill was insane. Very old houses… ---
**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2009, 4:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/home-window-plastic-thermal-barrier-questions/60627/57 "2009-01-02T16:31:32Z")
> [@JustinH](#): > > Seriously… My buddy was paying huge money for an allentown apartment for years, and his heating bill was insane. > > Very old houses… not too mention all of the moiture capture and impending mold. ---
**Author:** ![POOPRA](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/poopra/32/7188_2.png) [@POOPRA](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/POOPRA)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2009, 6:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/home-window-plastic-thermal-barrier-questions/60627/58 "2009-01-02T18:14:13Z")
I would not be surprised if your heating bills become more than your rent, that would be a red flag to get out ---
**Author:** ![98SS10](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/98ss10/32/7288_2.png) [@98SS10](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/98SS10)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2009, 6:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/home-window-plastic-thermal-barrier-questions/60627/59 "2009-01-02T18:22:40Z")
> [@Wookie](#): > > How old is your house? A lot of the older ones don’t have any insulation in the walls. Not totally true, alot of old insulation sags and often falls down within the walls, plus back then the R value of insulation isnt where it is theses days. ---
**Author:** ![Wookie](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/wookie/32/5153_2.png) [@Wookie](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Wookie)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2009, 6:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/home-window-plastic-thermal-barrier-questions/60627/60 "2009-01-02T18:26:49Z")
> [@98SS10](#): > > Not totally true, alot of old insulation sags and often falls down within the walls, plus back then the R value of insulation isnt where it is theses days. 6 out of the 8 houses that I looked at in South Buffalo had none. I’m talking about houses that were built a century ago. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/home-window-plastic-thermal-barrier-questions/60627.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/home-window-plastic-thermal-barrier-questions/60627.md?page=4)