# Honda 2&4 **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [September 9, 2015, 7:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-2-4/272991 "2015-09-09T19:46:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2015, 7:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-2-4/272991/1 "2015-09-09T19:46:06Z")
Super unsafe, but I like how it looks and would love to drive this around: > the Honda 2&4 is powered by the 999cc V4 motor from the new Honda RC213V-S superbike. No, it isn’t getting the U.S. spec 101 horsepower version - it will get the full glory of the 215 horsepower at 13,000 rpm and 87 foot-pounds at 10,5000 rpm “sport kit” motor, which is mid mounted into the 2&4. Power is delivered through a six-speed DCT gearbox. ![https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/1423033440470710087.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/e/e/ee53e776fd0df57a5b0827f7c1aa53c9ce2aec73.jpeg) ![https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/1423033440558095431.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/3/7/3790dc86cab850501719b410bedf312848f3cf16.jpeg) ![https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/1423033440720894279.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/c/c/cca69d50fd5c8b85dc40de7e352a54fbcd3d4f33.jpeg) ![https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/1423033440158903111.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/8/0/80cfeba0e13eeb50c9b1d741d54d39eb49915ae2.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![HouseS2K](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/houses2k/32/100273_2.png) [@HouseS2K](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HouseS2K)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2015, 9:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-2-4/272991/2 "2015-09-09T21:54:32Z")
Awesome ---
**Author:** ![1QIKZ](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/1qikz/32/6112_2.png) [@1QIKZ](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/1QIKZ)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2015, 4:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-2-4/272991/3 "2015-09-10T04:11:57Z")
I’m sure this is “affordable”. ---
**Author:** ![somedude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecd19e/32.png) [@somedude](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/somedude)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2015, 6:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-2-4/272991/4 "2015-09-10T06:15:09Z")
it seems like it would be incredibly unsafe. where can you drive it? no roll bar? ---
**Author:** ![Unknown923](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/unknown923/32/6803_2.png) [@Unknown923](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Unknown923)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2015, 6:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-2-4/272991/5 "2015-09-10T06:49:27Z")
Sweet, I want one. ---
**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2015, 7:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-2-4/272991/6 "2015-09-10T07:48:37Z")
> [@somedude](#): > > it seems like it would be incredibly unsafe. where can you drive it? no roll bar? Have you ever seen a motorcycle before? ---
**Author:** ![Unknown923](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/unknown923/32/6803_2.png) [@Unknown923](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Unknown923)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2015, 7:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-2-4/272991/7 "2015-09-10T07:49:55Z")
> [@newman](#): > > Have you ever seen a motorcycle before? 👏 ---
**Author:** ![somedude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecd19e/32.png) [@somedude](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/somedude)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2015, 8:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-2-4/272991/8 "2015-09-10T08:20:28Z")
> [@newman](#): > > Have you ever seen a motorcycle before? I have owned several. let me help you count though. motorcycles have 2 wheels and are held to different safety standards than car. This has 4 wheels and has a different set of standards it has to follow. If it is a track day only car not registered on the road sweet, except for the part where It does not have roll over protection so it will be restricted from any track I have ever been to. I am assuming it does not have some tricky stuff like some vehicles have where it has roll over sensors and uses explosive charges to move steel bars into place in the event of a roll over. My point is if you are restricted from tracks it serves no purpose. I would not want to drive that on the street for safety concerns. So again to my point where can you drive it? ---
**Author:** ![drewster99](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/drewster99/32/5468_2.png) [@drewster99](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/drewster99)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2015, 8:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-2-4/272991/9 "2015-09-10T08:26:20Z")
> [@1QIKZ](#): > > I’m sure this is “affordable”. A BAC Mono is around $130k so I’d imagine this is in that price range. ---
**Author:** ![Quattro\_Krant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/ac91a4/32.png) [@Quattro\_Krant](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Quattro_Krant)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2015, 8:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-2-4/272991/10 "2015-09-10T08:33:29Z")
Does the other side “pod” thing pop off to allow you to put another person there? 215 hp in that would be insane, I couldn’t imagine that in a sport bike ---
**Author:** ![GV1390](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gv1390/32/5432_2.png) [@GV1390](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GV1390)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2015, 8:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-2-4/272991/11 "2015-09-10T08:53:33Z")
> [@somedude](#): > > I have owned several. let me help you count though. motorcycles have 2 wheels and are held to different safety standards than car. This has 4 wheels and has a different set of standards it has to follow. If it is a track day only car not registered on the road sweet, except for the part where It does not have roll over protection so it will be restricted from any track I have ever been to. I am assuming it does not have some tricky stuff like some vehicles have where it has roll over sensors and uses explosive charges to move steel bars into place in the event of a roll over. My point is if you are restricted from tracks it serves no purpose. I would not want to drive that on the street for safety concerns. So again to my point where can you drive it? :jerkit: - - - Updated - - - > [@Quattro Krant](#): > > 215 hp in that would be insane, I couldn’t imagine that in a sport bike +1 ---
**Author:** ![maxwell](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/maxwell/32/6524_2.png) [@maxwell](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/maxwell)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2015, 8:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-2-4/272991/12 "2015-09-10T08:59:45Z")
> [@somedude](#): > > I have owned several. let me help you count though. motorcycles have 2 wheels and are held to different safety standards than car. This has 4 wheels and has a different set of standards it has to follow. If it is a track day only car not registered on the road sweet, except for the part where It does not have roll over protection so it will be restricted from any track I have ever been to. I am assuming it does not have some tricky stuff like some vehicles have where it has roll over sensors and uses explosive charges to move steel bars into place in the event of a roll over. My point is if you are restricted from tracks it serves no purpose. I would not want to drive that on the street for safety concerns. So again to my point where can you drive it? lol, ok. > [@Quattro Krant](#): > > Does the other side “pod” thing pop off to allow you to put another person there? 215 hp in that would be insane, I couldn’t imagine that in a sport bike I wonder what the weight on this is. 215 bhp on a sportbike sounds (and is) terrifying, haha. I bet this thing is a blast with 4 wheels. [sarcasm] but my vagina doesn’t allow me to take chances on the open road [/sarcasm] ---
**Author:** ![GV1390](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gv1390/32/5432_2.png) [@GV1390](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GV1390)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2015, 10:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-2-4/272991/13 "2015-09-10T10:28:10Z")
215hp on a sport-bike sounds fantastic. ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2015, 10:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-2-4/272991/14 "2015-09-10T10:37:28Z")
> [@somedude](#): > > So again to my point where can you drive it? It’s a design project from Honda. It’ll likely only be driven inside of a convention center during a car show. Honda never said anything about them actually building the thing and selling it. > [@maxwell](#): > > I wonder what the weight on this is. 893lbs > HONDA PROJECT 2&4 POWERED BY RC213V TO DEBUT AT FRANKFURT: A COMBINATION OF GLOBAL CREATIVITY AND CRAFTSMANSHIP > Winner of Honda’s ‘Global Design Project’ to debut at the Frankfurt Motor Show > Cabin-less structure features a floating seat design for immersive driving experience > Powered by Honda’s MotoGP RC213V engine, modified to run on public roads > ‘Honda Project 2&4 powered by RC213V’, the winning entry from Honda’s ‘Global Design Project’, will make its global debut at the 66th Frankfurt Motor Show at stand B11 in Hall 9.0. > Embodying the concept of ‘creative craftsmanship’, Honda Project 2&4 celebrates Honda’s position as the world’s leading engine manufacturer, providing engines to 28 million people per year across two- and four-wheel automotive, power equipment, marine and aerospace applications. > An example of the continuous effort by Honda to design an ever-more immersive driving experience, Honda Project 2&4 brings together the brand’s unique capabilities in two- and four-wheel mobility. Featuring the RC213V competition motorcycle engine, which has been modified to run on public roads, Honda Project 2&4 provides the freedom of a motorcycle and the manoeuvrability of a car. > Its exceptional power unit, developed for the world-class MotoGP motorcycle racing series and specially tuned for the public road, is a 999 cc V-4 four-stroke unit and conforms to Honda’s ‘The Power of Dreams’ guiding philosophy that inspires innovation and originality. Peak power output is over 215 PS at 13,000 rpm, while peak torque of over 118 Nm is delivered at 10,500 rpm. Transmission is provided by a six-speed DCT gearbox. > Inspired by the global creativity of one ‘Team Honda’ > Over 80 designers and creators participated in the in-house ‘Global Design Project’ competition, which is part of Honda’s initiative to inspire creativity as one ‘Team Honda’. > The objective of the annual contest between Honda design studios is to challenge team and project members to share one goal and achieve high targets. > Honda Project 2&4 is an example of what this stimulating challenge can generate thanks to the differing qualities of each participant. Conceived by Honda’s motorcycle design studio in Asaka and designed in collaboration with the automobile design studio in Wako, Honda Project 2&4 seeks to create an intense driving experience by combining the most thrilling elements of riding a motorcycle with the most engaging characteristics of driving a car. The result not only showcases the creativity flowing through Honda’s design studios, but also challenges expectations of the future of mobility. > Conceived for immersive driving thrills > Drawing on Honda’s racing heritage, the body design and engine position has been inspired by the legendary Honda RA272 of 1965. The structure reveals the core frame and functional parts of the car, much as would be more customary for a bike, and is similarly compact. Overall length is 3,040 mm, width 1,820mm and height 995 mm. A resulting weight of just 405 kg maximises the impact of the power of the mid-mounted engine which, together with the low centre of gravity, ensures an exceptionally high level of responsiveness. > The exhilarating feeling created from the open cockpit is significantly enhanced by the driver’s seat, uniquely suspended just above the road. The ‘floating seat’ design places the driver as close to the action as possible, evoking the freedom of a bike and completing the immersion provided by Honda Project 2&4’s extreme performance, 14,000 rpm red line and unique engineering. ---
**Author:** ![Bull49](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bull49/32/7381_2.png) [@Bull49](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bull49)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2015, 10:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-2-4/272991/15 "2015-09-10T10:38:14Z")
I’m not sure why everyone is piling on somedude here, he brings up a valid point. It looks like something that wouldn’t be street legal and likely wouldn’t adhere to track safety standards so, where can you use it? I agree it looks like it’d be a blast though. ---
**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2015, 11:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-2-4/272991/16 "2015-09-10T11:29:56Z")
It’s just stupid to talk about how unsafe it is when motorcycles exist. This thing is basically a motorcycle for people who can’t balance. ---
**Author:** ![TrueBlue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/trueblue/32/7245_2.png) [@TrueBlue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TrueBlue)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2015, 11:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-2-4/272991/17 "2015-09-10T11:50:56Z")
I can’t not read this as “Honda 2 **x** 4,” and keep expecting to see a timber-framed pole-barn race kart. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![LXIFLYBY](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/lxiflyby/32/7399_2.png) [@LXIFLYBY](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LXIFLYBY)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2015, 2:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-2-4/272991/18 "2015-09-10T14:15:03Z")
> [@newman](#): > > It’s just stupid to talk about how unsafe it is when motorcycles exist. This thing is basically a motorcycle for people who can’t balance. That’s what I always thought about ppl who ride the 3 wheeled CAN-AM’s. It does look pretty cool and I love the concept ---
**Author:** ![Bull49](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bull49/32/7381_2.png) [@Bull49](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bull49)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2015, 5:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-2-4/272991/19 "2015-09-10T17:27:14Z")
> [@newman](#): > > It’s just stupid to talk about how unsafe it is when motorcycles exist. This thing is basically a motorcycle for people who can’t balance. I guess I read it more as “where the fuck could I actually use this thing?” as opposed to “I’d be too afraid to use it.” ---
**Author:** ![JDMSIR](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jdmsir/32/7376_2.png) [@JDMSIR](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JDMSIR)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2015, 6:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-2-4/272991/20 "2015-09-10T18:48:39Z")
No one asked if it had a vtec, surprising [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-2-4/272991.md?page=2)