# honda civic build thread in Wv

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-civic-build-thread-in-wv/202062>\
**Category:** Builds\
**Created:** [March 1, 2009, 6:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-civic-build-thread-in-wv/202062 "2009-03-01T18:36:11Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Habib88](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/habib88/32/3341_2.png) [@Habib88](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Habib88)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2009, 10:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-civic-build-thread-in-wv/202062/41 "2009-03-12T22:37:09Z")

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> [@My 9 Second Formula Build \*DIAF 56k](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-9-second-formula-build-diaf-56k/39825/22):
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> im pretty sure SW knows what they are doing man. i think you might be the one with the ego here im building my car for me not for you if it doesnt please you then make comments to yourself because i dont need your help,
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> i never once said the cage was cool, and better then anyone elses, and can be used at any track did i ? nope
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> i love the big words by the way
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> "The point is you are doing something for a street car that is unequivocally dangerous. "
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> when you make the rules for what i can and cant do then maybe ill change it.

Wow, I’ve never seen someone get so bent outta shape for someone else trying to offer some advice. And Steve is correct, if your a noob to most ANY road course, prepare to have a instructor in your car. Not trying to talk down to you, just telling you how it is. The cage will probably be fine, but the passenger seat won’t be. Reason being is a rule most all tracks carry about all safety equipment being equal. As a example taken from beaverun’s website.

> Novice and intermediate drivers (Groups 1 and 2) must have a vehicle equipped with a passenger seat and seat belt(s) for an instructor **which are equivalent to that which is installed for the driver.**

I think your build has been clean as hell for a Honda, but for the sake of it get another race seat & bar padding for the other side.

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**Author:** ![Rogueeg6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rogueeg6/32/6060_2.png) [@Rogueeg6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Rogueeg6)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2009, 12:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-civic-build-thread-in-wv/202062/42 "2009-03-14T12:24:08Z")

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**Author:** ![dyingwish](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dyingwish/32/6041_2.png) [@dyingwish](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dyingwish)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2009, 6:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-civic-build-thread-in-wv/202062/43 "2009-03-15T06:01:41Z")

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> [@FS: Leopard Geckos \*UPDATED PICTURES AND PRICES!\*](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-leopard-geckos-updated-pictures-and-prices/39723/18):
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> i plan on another race seat but there a fortune so it can wait and the padding is just to see how much i need i only have the 2 i need 5 more to cover the bars where you could hit them. and i totally dissagree that mycage is unsafe, if that car was in a crash bad enough im dead anyway, its so small, light and low to the ground, so the cage does not make it any less safe then it already is.

I’m not bashing you, I am offering constructive criticism. You stated that you wanted to try road racing, and I was pointing out things that’ll need addressed if you decide to actually do it. The cage comment was based entirely on the fact that neither SCCA or NASA allow sleeve joints ANYWHERE on a cage, especially the main hoops. You can look up the GCR for both to see what I mean…that stuff is heavily regulated. You may/may not be doing anything at that level, I just thought you might want to know, so if you decide to go that route it’d be easier to fix now than later. I’ve been tracking for a long time, and would offer any advice you want.

You are doing a great job otherwise…it’s refreshing to see someone who doesn’t just slap a bunch of parts on something with no plan or anything. A side note about the sleeve joints…they have become popular with the rock crawling guys. The reason for that is they will never encounter the speeds that a road car will see. I understand that it is your project and all that, but saying that I’m going to do things that are [I]potentially[/] unsafe because I want to isn’t smart. My car has a roll bar BTW, but nothing in front of the seats, since I don’t tow it to the track or wear my helmet on the street.

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**Author:** ![Rogueeg6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rogueeg6/32/6060_2.png) [@Rogueeg6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Rogueeg6)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2009, 9:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-civic-build-thread-in-wv/202062/44 "2009-03-15T09:40:33Z")

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**Author:** ![dyingwish](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dyingwish/32/6041_2.png) [@dyingwish](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dyingwish)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2009, 10:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-civic-build-thread-in-wv/202062/45 "2009-03-15T10:05:48Z")

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> [@New Era Hat FAGZ](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-era-hat-fagz/39832/24):
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> i understood your point, but im not looking to do any sanctioned road racing soon, if i chose too it would be no problem to take the front off and solid weld just the rear bars in making a solid roll bar with no front. last year i was gonna try to get into the NASA honda challenge and printed a rule book, saw that half the stuff involved in my wire stuck and that shit was illegal anyways so thats a no go,

Pretty much all of your car is illegal for sanctioned stuff, and so is almost all of mine. I did tuck and hide all of my stuff too, but I didn’t do it permanently. I can revert back to stock if I have to, but yours looks better. It’d be easier for me to start with a fresh chassis, and reading the GCR requirements makes my head hurt. You basically have to have a cage builder sit there with the rule book and go over EVERY single detail one by one.

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**Author:** ![Rogueeg6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rogueeg6/32/6060_2.png) [@Rogueeg6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Rogueeg6)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2009, 11:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-civic-build-thread-in-wv/202062/46 "2009-03-15T11:08:03Z")

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**Author:** ![Bswaptcivic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b782af/32.png) [@Bswaptcivic](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bswaptcivic)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2009, 9:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-civic-build-thread-in-wv/202062/47 "2009-03-16T21:27:06Z")

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clean build, Steve is right about the cage, i doubted him before but his experience speaks volumes trust me. The a-pillar bars (much like the cusco cage) are more show than anything, if i were you i wouldn’t do any type of racing with it anyway, with as far as you’ve gone with attention to detail it doesn’t make sense to really do any type of serious racing with it, i’d hate to see it smashed up if something goes wrong!

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**Author:** ![Rogueeg6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rogueeg6/32/6060_2.png) [@Rogueeg6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Rogueeg6)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2009, 5:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-civic-build-thread-in-wv/202062/48 "2009-03-17T05:01:36Z")

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**Author:** ![matt94z](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/matt94z/32/6040_2.png) [@matt94z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/matt94z)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 3:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-civic-build-thread-in-wv/202062/49 "2009-03-19T15:23:30Z")

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> [@My 9 Second Formula Build \*DIAF 56k](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-9-second-formula-build-diaf-56k/39825/22):
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> im pretty sure SW knows what they are doing man. i think you might be the one with the ego here im building my car for me not for you if it doesnt please you then make comments to yourself because i dont need your help,
> 
> i never once said the cage was cool, and better then anyone elses, and can be used at any track did i ? nope
> 
> i love the big words by the way
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> "The point is you are doing something for a street car that is unequivocally dangerous. "
> 
> when you make the rules for what i can and cant do then maybe ill change it.

Dude, Steve is a very cool and knowledgeable guy… What he is telling you is not just to jack you off. And he probably just uses big words cause he’s a scientist haha.

Also, your build is lookin awesome! Keep the pics coming!

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**Author:** ![Rogueeg6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rogueeg6/32/6060_2.png) [@Rogueeg6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Rogueeg6)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 6:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-civic-build-thread-in-wv/202062/50 "2009-03-19T18:30:31Z")

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**Author:** ![The1SloR\_T](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/the1slor_t/32/5984_2.png) [@The1SloR\_T](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/The1SloR_T)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 8:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-civic-build-thread-in-wv/202062/51 "2009-03-19T20:06:28Z")

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you said you were going to heat wrap the entire exhaust? I wouldnt do that…

I’ve heard of people doing that and after a year their exhaust is all rusted because the wrap traps moisture

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**Author:** ![Rogueeg6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rogueeg6/32/6060_2.png) [@Rogueeg6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Rogueeg6)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 8:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-civic-build-thread-in-wv/202062/52 "2009-03-19T20:13:41Z")

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if you have stainless that rusts then something is wrong there:itr41:

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**Author:** ![dyingwish](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dyingwish/32/6041_2.png) [@dyingwish](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dyingwish)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2009, 5:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-civic-build-thread-in-wv/202062/53 "2009-03-20T05:01:31Z")

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For the wheels, definitely call Jason @ AMF. His color catalog is huge, and I’d bet he’d have no problem matching up to the shade of purple HKS, RC Stark, and Enkei used to use back when those wheels came out. Might as well keep things period correct while you’re at it. One thing I would say is that you’ll trim a bit off the value of those rare wheels if you go with another color combo. Refinishing the stock colors is one thing, changing it may decrease the value a bit, but only to those who look for unmodified rare wheels.

As for the lips being wavy, those are actually known for that…so I wouldn’t worry about it too much, unless it leaks obviously.

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**Author:** ![matt94z](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/matt94z/32/6040_2.png) [@matt94z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/matt94z)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2009, 11:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-civic-build-thread-in-wv/202062/54 "2009-03-20T11:17:01Z")

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Ebay Chineese stainless steel rusts.

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**Author:** ![The1SloR\_T](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/the1slor_t/32/5984_2.png) [@The1SloR\_T](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/The1SloR_T)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2009, 11:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-civic-build-thread-in-wv/202062/55 "2009-03-20T11:56:46Z")

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> [@CC debt pissing contest](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cc-debt-pissing-contest/39900/19):
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> Ebay Chineese stainless steel rusts.

yeppers

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**Author:** ![Rogueeg6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rogueeg6/32/6060_2.png) [@Rogueeg6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Rogueeg6)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2009, 4:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-civic-build-thread-in-wv/202062/56 "2009-03-20T16:39:57Z")

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**Author:** ![foz](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/foz/32/6028_2.png) [@foz](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/foz)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2009, 5:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-civic-build-thread-in-wv/202062/57 "2009-03-20T17:06:46Z")

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AMF Coatings (Allegheny Metal Finishing) they are a site sponsor. If you search around you can see some of their work and reviews. (somewhere you’ll find pricing too) They will blast and strip, then powdercoat them…  
Here’s a recent review on a set of M5 wheels, BBS ish  
[http://www.pittspeed.com/forums/showthread.php?t=48049&highlight=amf](http://www.pittspeed.com/forums/showthread.php?t=48049&highlight=amf)  
their site: [www.amfcoatings.com](http://www.amfcoatings.com)

if by chance you came to the burgh for the world of wheels you would have seen some of their work. Really impressive in person.

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**Author:** ![Rogueeg6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rogueeg6/32/6060_2.png) [@Rogueeg6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Rogueeg6)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2009, 6:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-civic-build-thread-in-wv/202062/58 "2009-03-20T18:13:39Z")

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**Author:** ![dyingwish](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dyingwish/32/6041_2.png) [@dyingwish](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dyingwish)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2009, 3:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-civic-build-thread-in-wv/202062/59 "2009-03-21T03:49:33Z")

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> [@CC debt pissing contest](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cc-debt-pissing-contest/39900/36):
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> what is this AMF you talk about, i can refinish them myself, if i have them powdercoated doesnt the rim have to be bare?

Yes, but the price you pay for powdercoating includes a full media blast and clean. It makes sense to do those wheels right…maybe have Jason blast them and you both could decide how to go about fixing the lips. The whole process is pretty cheap compared to what most people charge, and he’s super good at it.

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**Author:** ![yamaha](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/yamaha/32/5929_2.png) [@yamaha](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/yamaha)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2009, 5:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-civic-build-thread-in-wv/202062/60 "2009-03-21T05:26:11Z")

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You have one of the cleanest builds I have ever seen. Awesome work!

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