# Honda Civic Hybrid **URL:** \ **Category:** PittSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [September 21, 2005, 8:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-civic-hybrid/177184 "2005-09-21T08:33:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![whitey](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/whitey/32/5911_2.png) [@whitey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/whitey)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2005, 8:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-civic-hybrid/177184/1 "2005-09-21T08:33:44Z")
What do you think? Is it worth it to go hybrid? or should i wait? ---
**Author:** ![rookee](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rookee/32/5972_2.png) [@rookee](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rookee)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2005, 8:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-civic-hybrid/177184/2 "2005-09-21T08:39:37Z")
> [@whitey](#): > > What do you think? Is it worth it to go hybrid? or should i wait? i’d wait. unless you drive a ton every year, idthink you’d make your money back in savings for the intial bump in price. aren’t honda hybirds kinda torquey for… well… hybrids??? ---
**Author:** ![ShalerPunk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shalerpunk/32/5976_2.png) [@ShalerPunk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ShalerPunk)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2005, 8:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-civic-hybrid/177184/3 "2005-09-21T08:46:29Z")
> [@whitey](#): > > What do you think? Is it worth it to go hybrid? or should i wait? if you’re looking for a high-MPG beater, Honda will have the Fit and Toyota will have the Vitz here in the spring. Both 50+ mpg for about $11k, w/o all the expensive hybrid tech. ---
**Author:** ![whitey](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/whitey/32/5911_2.png) [@whitey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/whitey)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2005, 9:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-civic-hybrid/177184/4 "2005-09-21T09:43:35Z")
> [@rookee](#): > > i’d wait. unless you drive a ton every year, idthink you’d make your money back in savings for the intial bump in price. > > aren’t honda hybirds kinda torquey for… well… hybrids??? in the first year of owning the car i have driving 25000 miles… I have to use premium gas, lets take the average being 2.80 per gallon and i probably on average between city and highway get like 22mpg. So i spent approximately 3181 dollars in gas this year alone. If i get a hybrid I almost could cut that number in half guestimating that I will get approximately 44mpg. thats a pretty big chunk of change over a few years. shalerpunk, I do not want anything small… I am not even sure if those cars you suggested are small but i I would prefer a 4 door sedan style ---
**Author:** ![whitey](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/whitey/32/5911_2.png) [@whitey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/whitey)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2005, 9:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-civic-hybrid/177184/5 "2005-09-21T09:44:19Z")
another thing, i believe their is a tax credit for some energy bill if you use a hybrid car… anyone know anything about it? edit: got the answer [http://hybridcars.about.com/od/news/a/hybridtaxcredit.htm](http://hybridcars.about.com/od/news/a/hybridtaxcredit.htm) ---
**Author:** ![Storamin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9fc348/32.png) [@Storamin](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Storamin)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2005, 9:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-civic-hybrid/177184/6 "2005-09-21T09:44:45Z")
lexus hybrid suv. ---
**Author:** ![whitey](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/whitey/32/5911_2.png) [@whitey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/whitey)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2005, 9:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-civic-hybrid/177184/7 "2005-09-21T09:46:28Z")
> [@Storamin](#): > > lexus hybrid suv. do you have any sense of reading or comprehension? that would get the same gas mileage i get with my jetta… how is that better or cost saving? ---
**Author:** ![Storamin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9fc348/32.png) [@Storamin](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Storamin)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2005, 11:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-civic-hybrid/177184/8 "2005-09-21T11:13:53Z")
> [@whitey](#): > > do you have any sense of reading or comprehension? that would get the same gas mileage i get with my jetta… how is that better or cost saving? you said you didn’t want anything small. hondas are small cars ---
**Author:** ![imported\_showtime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/51bf81/32.png) [@imported\_showtime](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_showtime)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2005, 11:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-civic-hybrid/177184/9 "2005-09-21T11:22:25Z")
accord hybrid :bigthumb: the new civic hybrid that comes out in the next few months…its supposed to have a little more power…or at least from the electic motor…up to 20hp from 13(i think) also i read something like instead of the normal shutting off @ lights, stops etc…it will switch over to electric power during crusing speeds. ---
**Author:** ![slowcamaro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/slowcamaro/32/5975_2.png) [@slowcamaro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/slowcamaro)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2005, 11:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-civic-hybrid/177184/10 "2005-09-21T11:33:13Z")
hybrads are worth it if you do most of your driving in the city stop and go wise kanaut has the lexus suv hybrid and it gets 31 mpg in the city ---
**Author:** ![Converted2LSX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/converted2lsx/32/5962_2.png) [@Converted2LSX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Converted2LSX)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2005, 11:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-civic-hybrid/177184/11 "2005-09-21T11:51:47Z")
> [@rookee](#): > > aren’t honda hybirds kinda torquey for… well… hondas??? fixed ---
**Author:** ![OLDS\_ROCKETMAN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/olds_rocketman/32/5942_2.png) [@OLDS\_ROCKETMAN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OLDS_ROCKETMAN)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2005, 11:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-civic-hybrid/177184/12 "2005-09-21T11:58:49Z")
> [@whitey](#): > > What do you think? Is it worth it to go hybrid? or should i wait? walk. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2005, 12:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-civic-hybrid/177184/13 "2005-09-21T12:07:29Z")
I was just looking at the new honda’s last night and the civics look really nice. I would rock one. you can even get navi and voice activated stereo edit: here is the site to check out all the new civic features: [http://automobiles.honda.com/civics/index.aspx?From=%20newcivic.honda.com](http://automobiles.honda.com/civics/index.aspx?From=%20newcivic.honda.com) ---
**Author:** ![rookee](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rookee/32/5972_2.png) [@rookee](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rookee)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2005, 12:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-civic-hybrid/177184/14 "2005-09-21T12:10:36Z")
you answered your own question. looks like a buy to me ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2005, 12:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-civic-hybrid/177184/15 "2005-09-21T12:12:43Z")
accord hybrid specs: TRIM LEVEL Starting MSRP Hybrid $30,140 Engine Type V6 Engine Block/Cylinder Head Aluminum-Alloy Displacement (cc) 2997 Horsepower @ rpm (SAE net / with IMA) 240 @ 6250 / 255 @ 6000 Torque (lb.-ft. @ rpm / with IMA) 212 @ 5000 / 232 @ 5000 Bore and Stroke (mm) 86.0 x 86.0 Compression Ratio 10.5 : 1 Valve Train 24-Valve SOHC i-VTEC® Multi-Point Fuel Injection Standard Drive-by-Wire Throttle System™ Standard Idle-Stop Feature Standard Variable Cylinder Management™ (VCM™) Standard Active Control Engine Mount System (ACM) Standard Active Noise Cancellation (ANC) Standard CARB Emissions Rating ULEV-2 Direct Ignition System with Immobilizer Standard Tune-Up Interval\* 105,000 Miles ENGINEERING: TRANSMISSION TRIM LEVEL Starting MSRP Hybrid $30,140 Compact 5-Speed Automatic Transmission Standard ENGINEERING: ELECTRIC MOTOR / GENERATOR TRIM LEVEL Starting MSRP Hybrid $30,140 Permanent Magnet Motor Standard Power Output 16hp Motor Width (mm) 68 ENGINEERING: ELECTRIC POWER STORAGE TRIM LEVEL Starting MSRP Hybrid $30,140 Nickel-Metal Hydride (Ni-MH) Battery Standard Output 13.8Kw Rated Capacity 6.0Ah ENGINEERING: BODY/SUSPENSION/CHASSIS TRIM LEVEL Starting MSRP Hybrid $30,140 Unit-Body Construction Standard Double Wishbone Front Suspension Standard Five-Link Double Wishbone Rear Suspension Standard Stabilizer Bar (mm., front/rear) 25.4 / 14.0 Electric Power-Assisted Rack-and-Pinion Steering (EPS) Standard Steering Wheel Turns, Lock-to-Lock 3.17 Steering Ratio 16.25 Turning Diameter, Curb-to-Curb (ft.) 36.1 Power-Assisted Ventilated Front Disc/Solid Rear Disc Brakes Standard Wheels 16" Lightweight Alloy All-Season Tires P215/60 R16 ---
**Author:** ![whitey](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/whitey/32/5911_2.png) [@whitey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/whitey)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2005, 2:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-civic-hybrid/177184/16 "2005-09-21T14:43:20Z")
when i said small i meant hatch back… a honda is not much smaller then the jetta I am rocking right now. after reading about the large tax incentive, I think i am going to plan to buy one in 06… it just makes sense ---
**Author:** ![ShalerPunk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shalerpunk/32/5976_2.png) [@ShalerPunk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ShalerPunk)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2005, 9:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-civic-hybrid/177184/17 "2005-09-21T21:57:32Z")
> [@whitey](#): > > after reading about the large tax incentive, I think i am going to plan to buy one in 06… it just makes sense definitely buy the '06 model… I looked at an '06 Civic yesterday and it is leaps and bounds nicer than the 01-05 model. i talked to a guy at Baierl about an Insight… I’m seriously considering it. 60-70mpg = teh win. ---
**Author:** ![grandamld9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/48db29/32.png) [@grandamld9](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/grandamld9)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2005, 10:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-civic-hybrid/177184/18 "2005-09-21T22:00:26Z")
My perants got one about 1-2 months ago, before that we had a 04 ranger that got no better then 14mpg, the civic gets about 40mpg. This is the last year for the goverments incentive of $2,000 if you buy a hybrid car. I drove the car, and i like it. ---
**Author:** ![grandamld9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/48db29/32.png) [@grandamld9](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/grandamld9)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2005, 10:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-civic-hybrid/177184/19 "2005-09-21T22:05:04Z")
> [@ShalerPunk](#): > > if you’re looking for a high-MPG beater, Honda will have the Fit and Toyota will have the Vitz here in the spring. Both 50+ mpg for about $11k, w/o all the expensive hybrid tech. The smart car gets like 70mpg+ and i think you can get those already. ---
**Author:** ![Habib88](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/habib88/32/3341_2.png) [@Habib88](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Habib88)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 9:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-civic-hybrid/177184/20 "2005-09-22T09:27:11Z")
Interesting shit about the new civic hybrid… > Civic Hybrid: Cooperative Regenerative Brake System > Hybrid-powered vehicles recapture kinetic energy via regenerative braking and store this energy as electricity in rechargeable battery packs. The Civic Hybrid is no different, as its IMA electric motor also acts as a generator that can recharge its battery pack during braking, steady cruising, gentle deceleration, or coasting. > > New for 2006, a cooperative regenerative braking system debuts on the Civic Hybrid with the added capability to intelligently proportion braking power between the hydraulic brakes and the electric motor to extract even more electricity from the vehicle’s kinetic energy. Less reliance on the traditional braking system and reduced engine pumping losses translate into greater electrical regeneration (170 percent more than the 2005 Civic Hybrid) and ultimately improved fuel economy. When braking, a brake pedal sensor sends a signal to the vehicle’s IMA computer (IPU). The computer activates a servo unit in the brake system’s master cylinder that proportions braking power between the traditional hydraulic brakes and the electric motor to maximize regeneration. Previous versions of Honda’s IMA systems proportioned braking power at a pre-set rate below the maximum regeneration threshold and with no variable proportioning. I thought that was kinda cool. Also you can now get a hybrid loaded with all the exact same options as a EX or Si which is definally makes it a better buy. A buddy of mine works at a Honda dealer he drove the 06’s around already. He said the drive by wire seems to hang up a bit when you shift, but the car is worlds ahead of the previous civics. The accord is a little on the expensive side but I also hear the hybrid is the fastest Accord in the lineup. Again all depends on what you want, i’d probaly go for the civic its seems to be the best all around. Some random info on the hybrid motor if you want to check it out. [http://www.vtec.net/articles/view-article?page\_number=5&article\_id=396999](http://www.vtec.net/articles/view-article?page_number=5&article_id=396999) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-civic-hybrid/177184.md?page=2)