# Honda engine swap **URL:** \ **Category:** PittSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [December 28, 2007, 11:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-engine-swap/194406 "2007-12-28T11:43:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![fmfkid250](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fmfkid250/32/5973_2.png) [@fmfkid250](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fmfkid250)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2007, 9:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-engine-swap/194406/21 "2007-12-29T09:27:02Z")
> [@\*\*\*9/02/07 NYSpeed end of summer BBQ @ Letchworth \*\*\*PAYMENT Deadline 8/20\*\*\*](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/9-02-07-nyspeed-end-of-summer-bbq-letchworth-payment-deadline-8-20/32470/152): > > yea but i’m not turboing the swap…the the numbers with a turbo not really relivant here…an ls swap only has about 15 more horsepower than my car has right now…the thing i am thinking about is… is 15 more horespower and the extra wieght worth doing a swap at all??? I am…u are all right… on a budget bbbuutttt I’d rather save the extra money and do a gsr swap > > I just want a daily driver that doesn’t run a 16.6 like mine does now and is street legal > > And yes I want to do a swap into my d/d and boost my d in a pos hatch > And the reasoning behind this is… > I would love to just get a project car and swap and boost it bbuutt i’m tired of my daily driver having no balls what so ever so if I could I would just boost my d/d but thats not too reliable and I wouldn’t pass inspection legally and I’ve never really heard of a fast all motor d series so thats why i’m doing a swap…and if I have a left over engine I think it’d be fun to throw it in a hatch and boost it…and with the project i’m not looking for big numbers I’m just planning on making a modern day rat rod…primered hatch…some gold gsr fat fives, d16y8, 14b, dsm 450’s, custom i/c piping, vitara pistons…it’d be a fun lil hatch This shit is backwards for sure LS motors vs a D series a ls car will crush… vince went like 14.6 on a stock ls in a hatch on street tires > [@Alternatives to toilet paper](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/alternatives-to-toilet-paper/34111/14): > > Obvious choice here is an LS K20 swap. good reliable engines found in the RSX and Civic Si Hatches '02-'05. So a rather new engine and could find one pretty cheap. I know I enjoyed my K20A3 Si when I had it. WTF ---
**Author:** ![bald1one](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9de053/32.png) [@bald1one](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bald1one)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2007, 10:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-engine-swap/194406/22 "2007-12-29T10:35:33Z")
this whole thread is fucking bullshit, this kid is trying to sell this car that he wants to do this “swap” in and i was supposed to meet up with him last night to look at the dam thing and he blows me off and then i sign on to pittspeed and find that he is making a post on what swap to do in his 99 civ w/ no balls obviously this kid doesnt know what the fuck he wants to do and is wasteing everyones time! ---
**Author:** ![BoYnEz21](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ecae2f/32.png) [@BoYnEz21](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BoYnEz21)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2007, 10:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-engine-swap/194406/23 "2007-12-29T10:36:50Z")
sohcwips…i’m not turboing it cus then it wouldnt pass inspection and therefore it’d be illegal (my car is an obd2) ok so LS is better than a d series…more so than I thought Now my question is how much cheaper is an ls than a gsr? (just an estimation) ---
**Author:** ![fmfkid250](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fmfkid250/32/5973_2.png) [@fmfkid250](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fmfkid250)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2007, 10:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-engine-swap/194406/24 "2007-12-29T10:42:59Z")
> [@WTB: Xbox 360 Elite](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-xbox-360-elite/34108/4): > > sohcwips…i’m not turboing it cus then it wouldnt pass inspection and therefore it’d be illegal (my car is an obd2) > > ok so LS is better than a d series…more so than I thought > Now my question is how much cheaper is an ls than a gsr? (just an estimation) $1000 and obd2 GSR swap $2300+ or so? obd2 cars can pass inspection boosted ---
**Author:** ![fmfkid250](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fmfkid250/32/5973_2.png) [@fmfkid250](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fmfkid250)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2007, 10:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-engine-swap/194406/25 "2007-12-29T10:43:37Z")
> [@FS:92 Honda Civic DX (650whp)](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-92-honda-civic-dx-650whp/33449/146): > > this whole thread is fucking bullshit, this kid is trying to sell this car that he wants to do this “swap” in and i was supposed to meet up with him last night to look at the dam thing and he blows me off and then i sign on to pittspeed and find that he is making a post on what swap to do in his 99 civ w/ no balls obviously this kid doesnt know what the fuck he wants to do and is wasteing everyones time! :eek3: ---
**Author:** ![BoYnEz21](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ecae2f/32.png) [@BoYnEz21](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BoYnEz21)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2007, 10:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-engine-swap/194406/26 "2007-12-29T10:47:21Z")
whoa whoa whoa there bald one…i emailed you back and said that the check engine light came back on I read the code…went under the car and found my brand new o2 sensor had a wire that was spliced…while I was down there I also saw that I need a new oil pan gasket and my clutch has a slow leak somewhere…so If you want me to rip you off I can mickey mouse all of those things and pretend like I never told you about them…still ask the same price…and let all that be your problem…but instead I was going to be a nice guy and not rip you off ---
**Author:** ![BoYnEz21](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ecae2f/32.png) [@BoYnEz21](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BoYnEz21)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2007, 10:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-engine-swap/194406/27 "2007-12-29T10:48:50Z")
how can obd2 cars pass inspection if they are boosted? If it had an obd1 computer and the shop plugged in the computer wouldn’t it not read anything and therefore not pass inspection? ---
**Author:** ![bald1one](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9de053/32.png) [@bald1one](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bald1one)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2007, 11:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-engine-swap/194406/28 "2007-12-29T11:09:50Z")
> [@Any good restaurants that may potentially have vegan food in the Galleria area?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/any-good-restaurants-that-may-potentially-have-vegan-food-in-the-galleria-area/33972/34): > > whoa whoa whoa there bald one…i emailed you back and said that the check engine light came back on > > I read the code…went under the car and found my brand new o2 sensor had a wire that was spliced…while I was down there I also saw that I need a new oil pan gasket and my clutch has a slow leak somewhere…so If you want me to rip you off I can mickey mouse all of those things and pretend like I never told you about them…still ask the same price…and let all that be your problem…but instead I was going to be a nice guy and not rip you off IF YOU ARE TRYIN TO SELL THIS CAR WHY ARE YOU MAKING THREADS ASKING WHAT SWAP TO PUT IN IT??? ---
**Author:** ![bald1one](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9de053/32.png) [@bald1one](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bald1one)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2007, 11:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-engine-swap/194406/29 "2007-12-29T11:12:56Z")
[http://pittsburgh.craigslist.org/car/519346788.html](http://pittsburgh.craigslist.org/car/519346788.html) [http://www.pittspeed.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40383](http://www.pittspeed.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40383) I want this car sold by FRIDAY so I can purchase another car on Saturday before I go back to school in a couple weeks I am taking Best Offer and I am also considering trades (No Trucks!!!) ---
**Author:** ![fmfkid250](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fmfkid250/32/5973_2.png) [@fmfkid250](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fmfkid250)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2007, 12:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-engine-swap/194406/30 "2007-12-29T12:15:28Z")
> [@Any good restaurants that may potentially have vegan food in the Galleria area?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/any-good-restaurants-that-may-potentially-have-vegan-food-in-the-galleria-area/33972/34): > > whoa whoa whoa there bald one…i emailed you back and said that the check engine light came back on > > I read the code…went under the car and found my brand new o2 sensor had a wire that was spliced…while I was down there I also saw that I need a new oil pan gasket and my clutch has a slow leak somewhere…so If you want me to rip you off I can mickey mouse all of those things and pretend like I never told you about them…still ask the same price…and let all that be your problem…but instead I was going to be a nice guy and not rip you off AEM ---
**Author:** ![watacanga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/85f322/32.png) [@watacanga](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/watacanga)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2007, 12:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-engine-swap/194406/31 "2007-12-29T12:16:23Z")
if you want an all motor setup and only want bolt-on’s, get a b16, they’re cheaper than a gsr and they make 10 less hp. gsr is the best motor you can buy to build whether it be turbo or all motor but it is expensive and not worth it unless you’re going to build it. if you want a fast ass car for cheap buy an LS and turbo it to 250 hp. it’ll be fast as hell and reliable as hell. if you just want a quick swap buy a b16. here’s the prices of these motors from the only place you should buy them hmotors: b18b 145hp(LS)=2200 b16 170hp=2250 b18c 180hp=2999. as you can see of the three the b16 has the most power for the best price so make up your own mind. turbo cars can pass emissions and as long as your engine is obdII you should be fine. ---
**Author:** ![BoYnEz21](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ecae2f/32.png) [@BoYnEz21](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BoYnEz21)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2007, 12:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-engine-swap/194406/32 "2007-12-29T12:42:51Z")
watacanga - thank you fmfkid-aem?? baldone- ok…even if i did sell my car to you…I still would be doing what this thread was asking - swapping a motor into a daily driver…it was a thread asking peoples different opinions on different motors…i guess you can’t read that well but it says in the first post i left “not doing this til about march”…so whenever I have the money and am almost done with the spring semester, I will be putting a new engine into whatver car I have at that time…and I will be most likely building a beater hatch…the reason why i was selling my car is because I wanted to sell it and with the money buy a beater hatch and an obd1 coupe…but you come onto a thread that I made to just ask a question and call me out like that…not cool you could of emailed me and asked me in private what the deal was instead of coming on here and saying “this kid doesn’t know what the hell he wants to do” ---
**Author:** ![fmfkid250](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fmfkid250/32/5973_2.png) [@fmfkid250](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fmfkid250)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2007, 12:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-engine-swap/194406/33 "2007-12-29T12:46:53Z")
AEM EMS ---
**Author:** ![Craze\_Z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/aca169/32.png) [@Craze\_Z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Craze_Z)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2007, 1:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-engine-swap/194406/34 "2007-12-29T13:10:31Z")
my cousin has a 2000 civic si, i have a 99 ex, and our buddy has a 97 ex with an ls swap…we all have i/h/e At the track I run a 16.53 (gutted interior) my cousin runs a 15.4 (full interior), and the LS runs a 15.2 (gutted) If you could save up i think it’d be worth it to get a gsr or a b16 with mods Bottom line is its up to you If you find a good deal on one, take it ---
**Author:** ![bald1one](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9de053/32.png) [@bald1one](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bald1one)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2007, 3:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-engine-swap/194406/35 "2007-12-29T15:32:44Z")
> [@8/19 Taffy's and BBQ Payments](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/8-19-taffys-and-bbq-payments/34001/20): > > I’m looking to do a swap in the future > > I don’t have the money now but I’m hoping to save here and there and have enough around March > > I have a 99 civic ex…what swap should I do? H22 or a b18c1, b16? > > Also where is a good place to look for motors? I know All Foreign Auto Parts is a good place but does anyone know anywhere else? > > Thanks Sorry man but this doesnt look like you want to do it in a beater hatch. it specifically says " i have a 99 civic ex what swap should i do?" and as for me calling you out on here instead of emailing you…im not calling you out im just making everyone else aware that is responding to you that you are wasteing their time. You should of called me last night that is why i left you my number 3 times! Any ways IMO anything will be a hell of alot better than what you have now. wether you go with the b16 or b18c1 it will still be a fun ride. I prefer the B18c1. ---
**Author:** ![bald1one](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9de053/32.png) [@bald1one](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bald1one)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2007, 3:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-engine-swap/194406/36 "2007-12-29T15:34:26Z")
and dont bother calling me when you fix all the shit wrong with it, i found something else. ---
**Author:** ![wrayzor](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/wrayzor/32/6021_2.png) [@wrayzor](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/wrayzor)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2007, 9:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-engine-swap/194406/37 "2007-12-29T21:58:30Z")
holy fuck this thread needs a tampon with all the bitching going on…argue in pm’s not in a thread anyways…[http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread/878010](http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread/878010) read and make your own decision info on where to get swaps from all ya gotta do is read [http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=50010](http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=50010) ---
**Author:** ![burnyd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/burnyd/32/6020_2.png) [@burnyd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/burnyd)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2007, 10:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-engine-swap/194406/38 "2007-12-29T22:58:47Z")
3sgte! ---
**Author:** ![BoYnEz21](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ecae2f/32.png) [@BoYnEz21](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BoYnEz21)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2007, 11:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-engine-swap/194406/39 "2007-12-29T23:25:24Z")
thank you wrayzor ---
**Author:** ![imported\_gearhead](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/imported_gearhead/32/5957_2.png) [@imported\_gearhead](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_gearhead)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2007, 7:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-engine-swap/194406/40 "2007-12-30T07:08:04Z")
> [@Driveway pics of the Poopra](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/driveway-pics-of-the-poopra/33951/43): > > 3sgte! :love: [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-engine-swap/194406.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-engine-swap/194406.md?page=3)