# Honda guys, F22? why not?

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**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\
**Created:** [November 15, 2008, 8:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-guys-f22-why-not/58200 "2008-11-15T08:23:19Z")\
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**Post date:** [November 15, 2008, 8:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-guys-f22-why-not/58200/1 "2008-11-15T08:23:19Z")

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Hey guys,

why dont that many people build the F22 series of honda engines over the b series or the d series?

i know why the H22 is a hassle with the nikasil liners but the F series has iron liners and its huge compared to the other stuff.

just curious.

Brian

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**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 11:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-guys-f22-why-not/58200/2 "2008-11-19T11:57:27Z")

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Do you think you’ll be able to squeeze another tenth of a second off of your quarter mile time boosting the F22 to 30 psi, instead of your stock motor? :mamoru:

Damn, as per tech. talk rules I have to say something on topic…

F22 rods are hard to come by for some reason. [www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?cmd=print&id=2239906](http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?cmd=print&id=2239906)

I guess b/d motors are just so common, and commonly built nowadays, that companies concentrated on those engines and left the others in the shadows.

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**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 12:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-guys-f22-why-not/58200/3 "2008-11-19T12:08:09Z")

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they cost more, less common, and s2000s are a lot nicer than some shitty civic/integra

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**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 12:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-guys-f22-why-not/58200/4 "2008-11-19T12:12:34Z")

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SOHC, non vtec, not as easy to swap into a civic as b/d series, not worth shit out of the box, ie. slow as fuck ect. although im pretty sure my accord is quicker than beasts 99 civic ex d16 with I/H/E

there are a few guys on [cb7tuner.com](http://cb7tuner.com) that are running like 20 something psi on a stock block without any issues. one kid claimed to have overheated the car over 10x without warping the head/ blowing the hg

theyre stout as fuck, trust me. around 220k and still going strong…

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**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 12:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-guys-f22-why-not/58200/5 "2008-11-19T12:13:25Z")

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just build a h22/23 monster

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**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 12:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-guys-f22-why-not/58200/6 "2008-11-19T12:15:55Z")

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exactly, if i was going to throw money at pistons, rods ect on a honda block it would NOT be an f22 lol

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**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 12:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-guys-f22-why-not/58200/7 "2008-11-19T12:19:04Z")

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> [@95LS1t](#):
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> they cost more, less common, and s2000s are a lot nicer than some shitty civic/integra

not that f22 you asshole.

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**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 12:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-guys-f22-why-not/58200/8 "2008-11-19T12:19:52Z")

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ya i think he means the f22 sohc found in early 90’s accords

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**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 12:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-guys-f22-why-not/58200/9 "2008-11-19T12:20:04Z")

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> [@BREETIME](#):
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> not that f22 you asshole.

that was the F22 i was thinking of

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**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 12:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-guys-f22-why-not/58200/10 "2008-11-19T12:23:33Z")

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> [@justa4door](#):
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> that was the F22 i was thinking of

why would someone be confused as of why every honda guy doesnt turn there civic into a rwd platform?

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**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 12:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-guys-f22-why-not/58200/11 "2008-11-19T12:26:52Z")

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> [@BREETIME](#):
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> why would someone be confused as of why every honda guy doesnt turn there civic into a rwd platform?

Because it’ll cost more than $50?

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**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 12:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-guys-f22-why-not/58200/12 "2008-11-19T12:28:11Z")

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> [@SideWinderGX](#):
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> Because it’ll cost more than $50?

thats kinda what i was going for…

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**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 12:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-guys-f22-why-not/58200/13 "2008-11-19T12:28:22Z")

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F22 did come in SOHC vtec. You can get 300whp from it and they are fairly cheap. Most people prefer to start off with an H22 and turbo that.

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**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 12:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-guys-f22-why-not/58200/14 "2008-11-19T12:29:36Z")

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> [@BluBalls](#):
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> F22 did come in SOHC vtec. You can get 300whp from it and they are fairly cheap. Most people prefer to start off with an H22 and turbo that.

or a LS

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**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 12:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-guys-f22-why-not/58200/15 "2008-11-19T12:29:40Z")

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> [@BREETIME](#):
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> thats kinda what i was going for…

Oh.

Well, it’s still funny :mamoru:

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**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 12:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-guys-f22-why-not/58200/16 "2008-11-19T12:37:53Z")

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> [@BluBalls](#):
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> F22 did come in SOHC vtec. You can get 300whp from it and they are fairly cheap. Most people prefer to start off with an H22 and turbo that.

jdm no usdm right?

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**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 12:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-guys-f22-why-not/58200/17 "2008-11-19T12:39:29Z")

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> [@Jam](#):
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> jdm no usdm right?

the 94-97 accord ex came with vtec. Same with 98 on.

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**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 1:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-guys-f22-why-not/58200/18 "2008-11-19T13:14:45Z")

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The fastest sohc for a while was a all motor f22 not sure if it still is but shit moved out.

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**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 1:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-guys-f22-why-not/58200/19 "2008-11-19T13:23:56Z")

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back in the day when I had my h22 accord, I ran another “stock” accord on a 50 shot and I still pulled him pretty good. I think the tq and higher redline/gearing are a good reason people opt for the h22a.

there are some fast h23a(non vtec) cars out there too.

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**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 2:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-guys-f22-why-not/58200/20 "2008-11-19T14:06:33Z")

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just swap an ls1

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