# honda4life's 1999 Honda Civic Coupe Build

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**Category:** Builds\
**Created:** [August 5, 2012, 10:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda4lifes-1999-honda-civic-coupe-build/225079 "2012-08-05T22:54:16Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![honda4life](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/honda4life/32/5300_2.png) [@honda4life](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/honda4life)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2012, 7:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda4lifes-1999-honda-civic-coupe-build/225079/121 "2012-09-04T07:21:03Z")

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> [@nitroinsane](#):
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> Have you checked for power at the pump?

Yes I get power but when you turn the key the to crank it won’t prime.

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**Author:** ![honda4life](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/honda4life/32/5300_2.png) [@honda4life](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/honda4life)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2012, 7:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda4lifes-1999-honda-civic-coupe-build/225079/122 "2012-09-04T07:25:24Z")

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> [@focusinprogress](#):
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> are you still trying everything you can WITHOUT trying a different ECU??? I still see no mention of borrowing/trying a different ecu.
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> has the ECU that’s in the car been messed with/modified at all?
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> no offense but this is the absolute worst “build thread” I’ve ever seen. 3 pages and absolutely nothing has been accomplished since you aquired the car.

Deni brought over a ecu weeks ago and the same issue is there, and no the one I have is not modded, come over and help and I’ll pay ya in beer. I’m starting to think its the chassis harness but it’s a Honda shit like that doesn’t go bad.

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**Author:** ![jt76](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jt76/32/5100_2.png) [@jt76](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jt76)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2012, 9:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda4lifes-1999-honda-civic-coupe-build/225079/123 "2012-09-04T09:26:23Z")

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> [@honda4life](#):
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> Yes I get power but when you turn the key the to crank it won’t prime.

Is the pump shot? If you’re getting power at the pumps when you turn the ignition on, they should fire…

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**Author:** ![honda4life](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/honda4life/32/5300_2.png) [@honda4life](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/honda4life)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2012, 9:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda4lifes-1999-honda-civic-coupe-build/225079/124 "2012-09-04T09:46:11Z")

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> [@jt76](#):
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> Is the pump shot? If you’re getting power at the pumps when you turn the ignition on, they should fire…

The pump is brand new, If I hook a wire up directly from the battery it will prime

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**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2012, 9:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda4lifes-1999-honda-civic-coupe-build/225079/125 "2012-09-04T09:48:10Z")

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Have you tried using Google?

[http://honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=2897491](http://honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=2897491)

[http://honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=3071806](http://honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=3071806)

[http://honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=2854133](http://honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=2854133)

I realize those are B series etc but the concepts should all be the same.

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**Author:** ![jt76](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jt76/32/5100_2.png) [@jt76](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jt76)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2012, 9:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda4lifes-1999-honda-civic-coupe-build/225079/126 "2012-09-04T09:53:11Z")

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> [@honda4life](#):
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> The pump is brand new, If I hook a wire up directly from the battery it will prime

Had the same issue with my pumps when i put the fuel system in. Turned out to be a ground.

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**Author:** ![focusinprogress](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/focusinprogress/32/7227_2.png) [@focusinprogress](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/focusinprogress)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2012, 10:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda4lifes-1999-honda-civic-coupe-build/225079/127 "2012-09-04T10:49:01Z")

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sounds like whoever swapped harnesses when this motor was tossed back in fucked up somewhere and forgot to connect a ground or something. get a schematic and highlight all the grounds on it, then go to the car and make sure all of them are there/grounded as they should be.

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**Author:** ![06\_Spec-V](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/06_spec-v/32/5414_2.png) [@06\_Spec-V](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/06_Spec-V)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2012, 10:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda4lifes-1999-honda-civic-coupe-build/225079/128 "2012-09-04T10:52:28Z")

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> [@seth13](#):
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> Not sure who you are? thanks for the kind words though. I like to think that I know my ass from a hole in the ground but think what you want. I’ve been busy with college and work. trying to do something with my life. Evan ill shoot you a text soon. sorry I’ve been so busy.

Excuses, Excuses LoL!

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**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2012, 10:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda4lifes-1999-honda-civic-coupe-build/225079/129 "2012-09-04T10:52:40Z")

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There is a way to test the relay that triggers the fuel pump.

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**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2012, 11:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda4lifes-1999-honda-civic-coupe-build/225079/130 "2012-09-04T11:03:56Z")

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Alldata usually has wiring diagrams with just the grounds if you can find a torrent/someone with it.

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**Author:** ![06\_Spec-V](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/06_spec-v/32/5414_2.png) [@06\_Spec-V](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/06_Spec-V)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2012, 11:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda4lifes-1999-honda-civic-coupe-build/225079/131 "2012-09-04T11:07:21Z")

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Cant wait to see this running Evan!, and I gotta give you credit you haven’t quit on it and you have kept at it, now thats determination.

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**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2012, 11:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda4lifes-1999-honda-civic-coupe-build/225079/132 "2012-09-04T11:09:36Z")

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I realized after reading this thread and looking at all your DSM troubles you suck at automotive electrical.

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**Author:** ![nitroinsane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/d26b3c/32.png) [@nitroinsane](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/nitroinsane)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2012, 11:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda4lifes-1999-honda-civic-coupe-build/225079/133 "2012-09-04T11:14:13Z")

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Is this a Oem harness Oem motor or some hack swapped. Need to know before I waste time on all data

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**Author:** ![focusinprogress](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/focusinprogress/32/7227_2.png) [@focusinprogress](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/focusinprogress)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2012, 11:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda4lifes-1999-honda-civic-coupe-build/225079/134 "2012-09-04T11:22:58Z")

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> [@nitroinsane](#):
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> Is this a Oem harness Oem motor or some hack swapped. Need to know before I waste time on all data

judging by the original post…this is a 99 EX, should have a D16Y8 in it stock. It was once swapped from that to a GSR motor back when Beast had the car, then CW00EK swapped it to a d16y7. in the first post there is this quote:

> [@ShittyCars4Lyfe](#):
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> steve looking over the old hacked up harness.  
> The engine harness that was in the car, was when the car had a gsr in it, it was all hacked up and torn to shit, with random wires everywhere. jake (06specv) and steve came over and we started to pull the old harness out, pretty simple and straight forward, coming out.

seems there is a complete clusterfuck of harness swaps and patches most likely. that or some of the plugs are mixed up from putting in a complete OEM harness in and removing whatever clusterfuck of wiring previously installed. (this thing SHOULD be wired with an unmolested stock-to-the-car harness at this point)

EDIT: What’s the current hardware configuration here? D16y7 is a non-vtec engine, is it installed with an LX/DX computer and harness or no?

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**Author:** ![honda4life](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/honda4life/32/5300_2.png) [@honda4life](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/honda4life)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2012, 12:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda4lifes-1999-honda-civic-coupe-build/225079/135 "2012-09-04T12:13:35Z")

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> [@focusinprogress](#):
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> judging by the original post…this is a 99 EX, should have a D16Y8 in it stock. It was once swapped from that to a GSR motor back when Beast had the car, then CW00EK swapped it to a d16y7. in the first post there is this quote:
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> seems there is a complete clusterfuck of harness swaps and patches most likely. that or some of the plugs are mixed up from putting in a complete OEM harness in and removing whatever clusterfuck of wiring previously installed. (this thing SHOULD be wired with an unmolested stock-to-the-car harness at this point)
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> EDIT: What’s the current hardware configuration here? D16y7 is a non-vtec engine, is it installed with an LX/DX computer and harness or no?

Car has a d16y7 engine with a d16y8 tranny, I swapped out the old harness for the one that was supplied 99-00 homda civic DX/lx CDM oem harness uncut. Also has p2t or w.e ecu 2000 honda civic DX d16y7 ecu. I have alldata and have checked all grounds. Cleaned up all the grounds, I think Jt76 is right and maybe the fuel pump has a bad ground but we just made a new one for it.

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**Author:** ![honda4life](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/honda4life/32/5300_2.png) [@honda4life](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/honda4life)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2012, 12:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda4lifes-1999-honda-civic-coupe-build/225079/136 "2012-09-04T12:15:20Z")

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> [@LZ](#):
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> I realized after reading this thread and looking at all your DSM troubles you suck at automotive electrical.

Yes I do, lol it’s not like a computer!

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**Author:** ![honda4life](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/honda4life/32/5300_2.png) [@honda4life](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/honda4life)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2012, 12:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda4lifes-1999-honda-civic-coupe-build/225079/137 "2012-09-04T12:17:04Z")

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> [@boardjnky4](#):
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> There is a way to test the relay that triggers the fuel pump.

Lz posted some very helpful links that tell you how to do that. I’m going to give that a try also.

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**Author:** ![focusinprogress](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/focusinprogress/32/7227_2.png) [@focusinprogress](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/focusinprogress)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2012, 12:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda4lifes-1999-honda-civic-coupe-build/225079/138 "2012-09-04T12:51:17Z")

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what drives spark on these? cam angle sensor? crankshaft position sensor? might want to also test whatever circuit provides spark since now you’re not getting spark either.

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**Author:** ![honda4life](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/honda4life/32/5300_2.png) [@honda4life](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/honda4life)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2012, 1:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda4lifes-1999-honda-civic-coupe-build/225079/139 "2012-09-04T13:53:38Z")

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> [@focusinprogress](#):
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> what drives spark on these? cam angle sensor? crankshaft position sensor? might want to also test whatever circuit provides spark since now you’re not getting spark either.

It needs a dizzy for it to have spark. The dizzy in there is believed to be shot.

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**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2012, 1:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda4lifes-1999-honda-civic-coupe-build/225079/140 "2012-09-04T13:55:49Z")

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:lol:

Man someone made out good on selling you this POS

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