# Honda's "Secret Collection"

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hondas-secret-collection/244959>\
**Category:** Shift518 Automotive\
**Created:** [June 22, 2009, 4:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hondas-secret-collection/244959 "2009-06-22T16:40:01Z")\
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**Author:** ![Cossey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Cossey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cossey)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2009, 12:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hondas-secret-collection/244959/100 "2009-06-25T12:09:13Z")

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> [@Just joined today!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/just-joined-today/19788/3):
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> So in other words, I am correct in saying the 6pt cage IS in fact a cage, an 8pt is also a cage, and a 10pt is what Kramer thinks is the only thing classified as a cage.

AFAIK, if there’s no frontal protection such as what goes down the A/B pillar, it’s only considered a roll bar.  
The 8-point cage Kramer posted is junk. Halos = bad for business.

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