# Honestly, I think my numbers are BS **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Automotive\ **Created:** [March 17, 2009, 4:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honestly-i-think-my-numbers-are-bs/242867 "2009-03-17T16:24:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 12:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honestly-i-think-my-numbers-are-bs/242867/161 "2009-03-19T00:52:44Z")
> [@Needs more GT3](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/needs-more-gt3/15820/5): > > Update: > > so we will see. As long as it makes over 400 I will be happy. like many of us have said, 420-430whp is realistic ---
**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 4:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honestly-i-think-my-numbers-are-bs/242867/162 "2009-03-19T04:19:03Z")
There is no such thing as ‘accurate numbers’. Only the 'numbers your car puts down in that current condition. ---
**Author:** ![ninety1two40](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ninety1two40/32/6332_2.png) [@ninety1two40](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ninety1two40)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 4:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honestly-i-think-my-numbers-are-bs/242867/163 "2009-03-19T04:42:11Z")
Why do dynos always read high or low? Is there no standard? Isn’t HP calculated using Time, Resistance (force?), Speed? Doesn’t the dyno roller have a set resistance? Are there any dynos that are NIST calibrated regularly? NIST=National Institute of Standards and Technology ---
**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 4:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honestly-i-think-my-numbers-are-bs/242867/164 "2009-03-19T04:52:39Z")
The only widely accepted ‘standard’ is a Dyno Dynamics dyno in ‘Shootout’ mode. If you get good numbers on that thing, you’re making some nice power. ---
**Author:** ![jays05](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@jays05](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jays05)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 5:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honestly-i-think-my-numbers-are-bs/242867/165 "2009-03-19T05:38:04Z")
> [@bennyfizzle"](#): > > The only widely accepted ‘standard’ is a Dyno Dynamics dyno in ‘Shootout’ mode. > > If you get good numbers on that thing, you’re making some nice power. Some dyno dynamics will read crank HP in shootout mode. Others give a much lower number, lower than without shootout mode. Depends on how you set it up. Or at least, that’s what two different dyno operators told me (Ben @ KTR and Junior at The Shop). The only widely accepted standard is trap speeds. ---
**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 5:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honestly-i-think-my-numbers-are-bs/242867/166 "2009-03-19T05:51:18Z")
Haha word. ---
**Author:** ![Shady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6de8d8/32.png) [@Shady](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shady)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 5:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honestly-i-think-my-numbers-are-bs/242867/167 "2009-03-19T05:51:55Z")
> [@Needs more GT3](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/needs-more-gt3/15820/5): > > Update: > > Im going out to the shop again saturday morning to get the injectors installed and a updated tune…and Im going to be there when he puts it on the dyno… > > we had a in depth discussion today about the numbers. He bought the new mustang dyno used from a different shop a few weeks ago…well last night he looked at the software and load settings (I think thats what he said) and out of the 5 settings, (5 being the highest rating) it was on 3. So he reset and calibrated it back to 1 so saturday afternoon I should have 100% accurate numbers. > > his email… > > “This Saturday is fine. Next Saturday we are going racing. let me no what time if good for you shouldn’t take more then an hr. we can drop the idle but it might start surging with that size cam. updated my dyno comp to windows XP and i had to reinstall my dyno software. there is a box from 1 to 5 that has to do with the hp calculation. the previous owner had it set on 3 where it should be set at 1. They told me when people try and sell work they dyno there cars low and then up that box and give them some magic #s which isent wright to do.” > > so we will see. As long as it makes over 400 I will be happy. If thats directly pasted from his e-mail. I would not trust a shop owner that can’t use spell check to correct something as stupid as wright in an email to a customer… :rofl Hes probably dyslexic and read your numbers wrong ---
**Author:** ![Boost\_Creep](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boost_creep/32/6366_2.png) [@Boost\_Creep](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boost_Creep)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 5:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honestly-i-think-my-numbers-are-bs/242867/168 "2009-03-19T05:55:22Z")
> [@FS:350 s10- FYI](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-350-s10-fyi/14459/36): > > If thats directly pasted from his e-mail. I would not trust a shop owner that can’t use spell check to correct something as stupid as wright in an email to a customer… :rofl > > Hes probably dyslexic and read your numbers wrong In his defense, the guy who built my car could not spell well either, and was not computer literate, but was a great builder/tuner. ---
**Author:** ![SSmokinn\_SS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@SSmokinn\_SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SSmokinn_SS)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 6:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honestly-i-think-my-numbers-are-bs/242867/169 "2009-03-19T06:53:28Z")
> [@FS:350 s10- FYI](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-350-s10-fyi/14459/36): > > If thats directly pasted from his e-mail. I would not trust a shop owner that can’t use spell check to correct something as stupid as wright in an email to a customer… :rofl > > Hes probably dyslexic and read your numbers wrong I dont know what to say to this other then he has a 9.1 Second Camaro thats a bracket racer and a 10.7 second cam only camaro…both he built himself he obviously cant spell, but he knows how to build a car and thats all that matters. ---
**Author:** ![deadbeatrec](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deadbeatrec/32/6401_2.png) [@deadbeatrec](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deadbeatrec)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 7:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honestly-i-think-my-numbers-are-bs/242867/170 "2009-03-19T07:11:41Z")
mustand dynos can be fucked with to make the numbers higher or lower. Dynojets can not. i was dynoed on a Dynapak. ---
**Author:** ![Shady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6de8d8/32.png) [@Shady](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shady)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 7:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honestly-i-think-my-numbers-are-bs/242867/171 "2009-03-19T07:14:18Z")
> [@The S gets more ass then I do! PICS](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-s-gets-more-ass-then-i-do-pics/15771/213): > > I dont know what to say to this other then he has a 9.1 Second Camaro thats a bracket racer and a 10.7 second cam only camaro…both he built himself > > he obviously cant spell, but he knows how to build a car and thats all that matters. The fact that he has a 9.1 second camaro says nothing about his inability to spell, especially when talking to a customer. Not saying he cant build/tune cars, just saying as a shop owner I would try to at least use spell check. ---
**Author:** ![jays05](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@jays05](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jays05)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 7:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honestly-i-think-my-numbers-are-bs/242867/172 "2009-03-19T07:25:53Z")
> [@The S gets more ass then I do! PICS](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-s-gets-more-ass-then-i-do-pics/15771/218): > > mustand dynos can be fucked with to make the numbers higher or lower. Dynojets can not. i was dynoed on a Dynapak. A common way to fuck with the numbers is to put the weather station near a heat source and AFAIK this can be done with a dynojet. I have seen in some of the Big Al youtube videos they have the weather station covered with a blanket next to a computer. Dyno it in 50 degree weather and apply correction for 80 degree temps and there ya go. The only dyno that cannot be fucked with is the MAHA dynos (same one the car makers use). ---
**Author:** ![deadbeatrec](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deadbeatrec/32/6401_2.png) [@deadbeatrec](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deadbeatrec)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 7:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honestly-i-think-my-numbers-are-bs/242867/173 "2009-03-19T07:27:24Z")
> [@Got my truck stuck](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/got-my-truck-stuck/15831/2): > > A common way to fuck with the numbers is to put the weather station near a heat source and AFAIK this can be done with a dynojet. I have seen in some of the Big Al youtube videos they have the weather station covered with a blanket next to a computer. Dyno it in 50 degree weather and apply correction for 80 degree temps and there ya go. The only dyno that cannot be fucked with is the MAHA dynos (same one the car makers use). all my number from ICS are uncorrected i believe. ---
**Author:** ![SSmokinn\_SS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@SSmokinn\_SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SSmokinn_SS)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 7:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honestly-i-think-my-numbers-are-bs/242867/174 "2009-03-19T07:28:38Z")
> [@VW Rabbit](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/vw-rabbit/15824/20): > > all my number from ICS are uncorrected i believe. uncorrected numbers mean they are higher ---
**Author:** ![Auto0utcast](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/auto0utcast/32/6281_2.png) [@Auto0utcast](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Auto0utcast)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 8:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honestly-i-think-my-numbers-are-bs/242867/175 "2009-03-19T08:26:31Z")
> [@SSmokinn SS"](#): > > uncorrected numbers mean they are higher thats completely false. my UNCORRECTED numbers were 346/344 while my SAE correction was 366/364 from moon on their mustang dyno. uncorrected means thats what your car made right then and there in those conditions… all a correction factor does is adjust for what it may make at sea level or at some other elevation or to be “bragging rights”. it makes what it makes. as ive been told for years. corrected numbers are bullshit. ---
**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 8:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honestly-i-think-my-numbers-are-bs/242867/176 "2009-03-19T08:49:18Z")
Neither of you are right, it just depends on what you’re correcting for. ---
**Author:** ![deadbeatrec](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deadbeatrec/32/6401_2.png) [@deadbeatrec](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deadbeatrec)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 8:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honestly-i-think-my-numbers-are-bs/242867/177 "2009-03-19T08:59:20Z")
> [@Anyone into overclocking?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-into-overclocking/15835/5): > > thats completely false. my UNCORRECTED numbers were 346/344 while my SAE correction was 366/364 from moon on their mustang dyno. uncorrected means thats what your car made right then and there in those conditions… all a correction factor does is adjust for what it may make at sea level or at some other elevation or to be “bragging rights”. it makes what it makes. as ive been told for years. corrected numbers are bullshit. holy shit travis, maybe ur not worthless after all. :number1 ---
**Author:** ![Auto0utcast](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/auto0utcast/32/6281_2.png) [@Auto0utcast](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Auto0utcast)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 9:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honestly-i-think-my-numbers-are-bs/242867/178 "2009-03-19T09:10:32Z")
> [@Q or Blackberry](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/q-or-blackberry/15727/25): > > Neither of you are right, it just depends on what you’re correcting for. corrections are gay. 346awhp fo lyfe son! ---
**Author:** ![SSmokinn\_SS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@SSmokinn\_SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SSmokinn_SS)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 10:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honestly-i-think-my-numbers-are-bs/242867/179 "2009-03-19T10:16:53Z")
> [@8/9 Shredd & Ragan Import Night](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/8-9-shredd-ragan-import-night/15697/46): > > corrections are gay. 346awhp fo lyfe son! then it that case, I made 490 un corrected. 🙂 490 false hp that is. ---
**Author:** ![deadbeatrec](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deadbeatrec/32/6401_2.png) [@deadbeatrec](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deadbeatrec)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 10:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honestly-i-think-my-numbers-are-bs/242867/180 "2009-03-19T10:22:59Z")
> [@Teeter totter throw](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/teeter-totter-throw/15838/2): > > then it that case, I made 490 un corrected. > > 🙂 > > 490 false hp that is. its a crap shoot because say u get ur car dynoed on a 10 degree day, it would be higher than on a 100 degree day. this is what the correction is for. it makes it all even. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honestly-i-think-my-numbers-are-bs/242867.md?page=8) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honestly-i-think-my-numbers-are-bs/242867.md?page=10)