# Hostess out of business; 18,500 jobs to be lost **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Off Topic\ **Created:** [November 16, 2012, 5:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hostess-out-of-business-18-500-jobs-to-be-lost/265503 "2012-11-16T05:34:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![d\_gage](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/d_gage/32/6321_2.png) [@d\_gage](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/d_gage)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2012, 9:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hostess-out-of-business-18-500-jobs-to-be-lost/265503/21 "2012-11-16T09:50:07Z")
> [@Elmisterioso666 \> Mr.Smith + Kingsario](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/elmisterioso666-mr-smith-kingsario/50979/82): > > i hear this all the time. someone would rather be happy making less money than making more money unhappy I spend 100x more time with my daughter and don’t have to deal with corporate lying and other total bullshit that is associated with a not giving a fuck business. Now I know what my family can live off and will never work for a place that i feel poorly treated at. I know I won’t have a pension and i’m cool with working 1,000 different jobs until I find something that works for me. Its time to stand the fuck up and not get kicked around anymore. ---
**Author:** ![KillerBlackbird](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/killerblackbird/32/6525_2.png) [@KillerBlackbird](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KillerBlackbird)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2012, 10:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hostess-out-of-business-18-500-jobs-to-be-lost/265503/22 "2012-11-16T10:04:15Z")
> [@fs 1991 camaro spun rod bearin 900 w/o rims/system heads intake carb](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-1991-camaro-spun-rod-bearin-900-w-o-rims-system-heads-intake-carb/49653/70): > > ^ > > drop those numbers lower and see how you feel, say a factory worker whom assembles things with his hands makes 35k a year ( which i think is a more accurate number ) and the guy in the office overseeing 20 people makes 55k. what one would you pick if you had the option to do so. > [@4th of July](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4th-of-july/51057/27): > > I’ve personally taken a 40k+ year hit and am a much happier person and plain old in a better mood. :tbu We all can’t be doctors or lawyers. If you have 8 million kids that graduate college every year and only 1 million job openings every other year, its a good chance someone will have to do something else. As I’ve said before, we need our manufacturing jobs back from China. ---
**Author:** ![sbardy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8edcca/32.png) [@sbardy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sbardy)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2012, 2:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hostess-out-of-business-18-500-jobs-to-be-lost/265503/23 "2012-11-16T14:36:04Z")
I hate when I see people on strike, especially Verizon workers on central. People should be happy they have jobs instead of bitching. ---
**Author:** ![6SPD\_S4](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/6spd_s4/32/6326_2.png) [@6SPD\_S4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/6SPD_S4)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2012, 2:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hostess-out-of-business-18-500-jobs-to-be-lost/265503/24 "2012-11-16T14:51:15Z")
Unions protect the worst employees… ---
**Author:** ![sbardy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8edcca/32.png) [@sbardy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sbardy)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2012, 3:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hostess-out-of-business-18-500-jobs-to-be-lost/265503/25 "2012-11-16T15:39:00Z")
> [@NHL Draft \*\*now the official NHL OFFSEASON thread\*\*](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nhl-draft-now-the-official-nhl-offseason-thread/50350/406): > > Unions protect the worst employees… This. Protects and teaches people how to be the laziest pieces of shit and bitch about not getting paid enough. ---
**Author:** ![Murrdog9000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/murrdog9000/32/6391_2.png) [@Murrdog9000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Murrdog9000)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2012, 4:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hostess-out-of-business-18-500-jobs-to-be-lost/265503/26 "2012-11-16T16:15:04Z")
I’m glad I’m in the UTU. ---
**Author:** ![MidThrust](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/midthrust/32/6711_2.png) [@MidThrust](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MidThrust)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2012, 4:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hostess-out-of-business-18-500-jobs-to-be-lost/265503/27 "2012-11-16T16:38:35Z")
> [@TNT PIZZA (ROCKYS 2) MEET 7/5](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tnt-pizza-rockys-2-meet-7-5/50455/29): > > I’m glad I’m in the UTU. The UTU sucks for me on a local level. The company doesn’t honor the contract and the union says “oh they can do that”. I pay $100 a month for a parking spot. I agree with people bitching that unions protect lazy people, but it protects good workers that makes a mistake from being fired on the spot. It also protects the employee from being bullied by a big corp. I’m talking about what i have seen personally with the company I work for and the union I belong to. ---
**Author:** ![KillerBlackbird](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/killerblackbird/32/6525_2.png) [@KillerBlackbird](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KillerBlackbird)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2012, 5:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hostess-out-of-business-18-500-jobs-to-be-lost/265503/28 "2012-11-16T17:05:09Z")
Don’t worry, Obama will take us forward. > **[MIX: Barack Obama: ‘I owe those unions’](https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/aug/31/barack-obama-i-owe-those-unions/)** > > In his book “The Audacity of Hope,” then-candidate Barack Obama, when talking about his relationship with Big Labor union officials, wrote: “I owe those unions. When their leaders call, I do my best to call them back right away. I don’t consider this... ---
**Author:** ![sbardy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8edcca/32.png) [@sbardy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sbardy)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2012, 5:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hostess-out-of-business-18-500-jobs-to-be-lost/265503/29 "2012-11-16T17:16:27Z")
> [@wtb rims ford bolt pattern](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-rims-ford-bolt-pattern/51029/15): > > The UTU sucks for me on a local level. The company doesn’t honor the contract and the union says “oh they can do that”. I pay $100 a month for a parking spot. I agree with people bitching that unions protect lazy people, but it protects good workers that makes a mistake from being fired on the spot. It also protects the employee from being bullied by a big corp. I’m talking about what i have seen personally with the company I work for and the union I belong to. I’m not against unions by any means. Protecting the employees is great. My father was in a union, lived comfortably always working, and retired with a good pension. But he also wasn’t a lazy one. ---
**Author:** ![10secondC](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/10secondc/32/6715_2.png) [@10secondC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/10secondC)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2012, 6:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hostess-out-of-business-18-500-jobs-to-be-lost/265503/30 "2012-11-16T18:20:44Z")
> [@Why would you do this??](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-would-you-do-this/51083/9): > > I hate when I see people on strike, especially Verizon workers on central. > > People should be happy they have jobs instead of bitching. Uhm…get your facts straight. We worked for over a year with no contract. They picketed after hours to protest Verizon asking for way to many give backs…but we still went to work every day. I hate that the bulk of the kids out there thinks the world owes them a living. That people would rather sit on their fat asses collecting unemployment and welfare that I have to pay for than go get that job at McDonalds making $8 hr flipping burgers. The world needs ditch diggers too. Sorry that you can’t live on $25-30k…time to lower your standards and live within your means. ---
**Author:** ![sbardy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8edcca/32.png) [@sbardy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sbardy)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2012, 6:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hostess-out-of-business-18-500-jobs-to-be-lost/265503/31 "2012-11-16T18:38:06Z")
> [@5.0 guys, retarded questions inside](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/5-0-guys-retarded-questions-inside/51081/5): > > Uhm…get your facts straight. We worked for over a year with no contract. They picketed after hours to protest Verizon asking for way to many give backs…but we still went to work every day. I hate that the bulk of the kids out there thinks the world owes them a living. That people would rather sit on their fat asses collecting unemployment and welfare that I have to pay for than go get that job at McDonalds making $8 hr flipping burgers. The world needs ditch diggers too. Sorry that you can’t live on $25-30k…time to lower your standards and live within your means. My facts were straight, I said I hate driving by the Verizon on central ave. seeing them picketing… That’s a fact. Also you saying they picket after hours **isn’t** a fact. When I drive by and there’s a huge fucking inflatable rat on the side of the road with people holding up signs during the day, I’m pretty sure the Verizon stores open. I’m with you on your other thoughts though. ---
**Author:** ![MidThrust](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/midthrust/32/6711_2.png) [@MidThrust](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MidThrust)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2012, 7:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hostess-out-of-business-18-500-jobs-to-be-lost/265503/32 "2012-11-16T19:09:35Z")
> [@5.0 guys, retarded questions inside](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/5-0-guys-retarded-questions-inside/51081/5): > > Uhm…get your facts straight. We worked for over a year with no contract. They picketed after hours to protest Verizon asking for way to many give backs…but we still went to work every day. I hate that the bulk of the kids out there thinks the world owes them a living. That people would rather sit on their fat asses collecting unemployment and welfare that I have to pay for than go get that job at McDonalds making $8 hr flipping burgers. The world needs ditch diggers too. Sorry that you can’t live on $25-30k…time to lower your standards and live within your means. +rep!!! ---
**Author:** ![waltbabyluv](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/waltbabyluv/32/6300_2.png) [@waltbabyluv](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/waltbabyluv)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2012, 7:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hostess-out-of-business-18-500-jobs-to-be-lost/265503/33 "2012-11-17T07:24:23Z")
Yah D. Gage. I feel the same way. I became a happy person when i took a pay cut and stopped trying to run shit and stress out every day trying to do so. Now i get to spend more time with my kids, play softball and video games or whatever, and im fine. I was dying trying to be something i wasnt and deep down didnt want to be. ---
**Author:** ![JoeD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/77aa72/32.png) [@JoeD](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JoeD)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2012, 10:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hostess-out-of-business-18-500-jobs-to-be-lost/265503/34 "2012-11-17T10:06:44Z")
> [@5.0 guys, retarded questions inside](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/5-0-guys-retarded-questions-inside/51081/5): > > Uhm…get your facts straight. We worked for over a year with no contract. They picketed after hours to protest Verizon asking for way to many give backs…but we still went to work every day. I hate that the bulk of the kids out there thinks the world owes them a living. That people would rather sit on their fat asses collecting unemployment and welfare that I have to pay for than go get that job at McDonalds making $8 hr flipping burgers. The world needs ditch diggers too. Sorry that you can’t live on $25-30k…time to lower your standards and live within your means. Isn’t 8 dollars an hour only $16k a year. I think you would need government assistance to help you get by with that much. Also thats if the company paid you 40hrs which they won’t cuz then they would have to pay full-time with insurance blah blah blah. 16k a year plus well fare man the American dream is dead. On a side note the auto bailout was actually started by the republicans by a guy named GW Bush. > **[George W. Bush deserves credit for the auto bailout: George V. Voinovich](https://www.cleveland.com/opinion/2012/09/george_w_bush_deserves_credit.html)** > > Although the Obama administration is taking credit for saving GM and Chrysler, if it wasn't for the work of President George W. Bush, there wouldn't be much of an industry to squabble over, writes former Ohio Sen. George V. Voinovich. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I727 using Tapatalk 2 ---
**Author:** ![AVB](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/avb/32/6751_2.png) [@AVB](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/AVB)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2012, 10:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hostess-out-of-business-18-500-jobs-to-be-lost/265503/35 "2012-11-17T10:12:07Z")
Boxes of twinkles are going for $100 on eBay. ---
**Author:** ![JoeD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/77aa72/32.png) [@JoeD](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JoeD)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2012, 10:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hostess-out-of-business-18-500-jobs-to-be-lost/265503/36 "2012-11-17T10:20:23Z")
Colorado leaglizes weed and hostess goes out of business. Well played America! Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I727 using Tapatalk 2 ---
**Author:** ![toomanycamaros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@toomanycamaros](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/toomanycamaros)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2012, 11:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hostess-out-of-business-18-500-jobs-to-be-lost/265503/37 "2012-11-17T11:54:44Z")
> [@speed trap on 290](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/speed-trap-on-290/51085/12): > > Isn’t 8 dollars an hour only $16k a year. I think you would need government assistance to help you get by with that much. Also thats if the company paid you 40hrs which they won’t cuz then they would have to pay full-time with insurance blah blah blah. 16k a year plus well fare man the American dream is dead. > > On a side note the auto bailout was actually started by the republicans by a guy named GW Bush. > [George W. Bush deserves credit for the auto bailout: George V. Voinovich - cleveland.com](http://www.cleveland.com/opinion/index.ssf/2012/09/george_w_bush_deserves_credit.html) > > Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I727 using Tapatalk 2 When I met my wife she had a minimum wage job paid and still managed to work 40 hrs a week minimum while going to school full time and paying all of her own bills including rent. So for those who say they can’t make it work I say bullshit. It’s not a comfortable lifestyle and if you want to make a nice living you have to work hard and progress from there. The problem is exactly what is stated above, people are freakin lazy and want shit handed to them. ---
**Author:** ![KillerBlackbird](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/killerblackbird/32/6525_2.png) [@KillerBlackbird](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KillerBlackbird)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2012, 12:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hostess-out-of-business-18-500-jobs-to-be-lost/265503/38 "2012-11-17T12:57:40Z")
> [@FS:94 boosted inetgra (new price+pictures)](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-94-boosted-inetgra-new-price-pictures/51088/3): > > When I met my wife she had a minimum wage job paid and still managed to work 40 hrs a week minimum while going to school full time and paying all of her own bills including rent. So for those who say they can’t make it work I say bullshit. It’s not a comfortable lifestyle and if you want to make a nice living you have to work hard and progress from there. The problem is exactly what is stated above, people are freakin lazy and want shit handed to them. Or they seem to feel entitled or “above” certain jobs. If you need money you do what you have to. ---
**Author:** ![6SPD\_S4](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/6spd_s4/32/6326_2.png) [@6SPD\_S4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/6SPD_S4)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2012, 1:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hostess-out-of-business-18-500-jobs-to-be-lost/265503/39 "2012-11-17T13:00:04Z")
> [@speed trap on 290](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/speed-trap-on-290/51085/4): > > My facts were straight, I said I hate driving by the Verizon on central ave. seeing them picketing… That’s a fact. > > Also you saying they picket after hours **isn’t** a fact. When I drive by and there’s a huge fucking inflatable rat on the side of the road with people holding up signs during the day, I’m pretty sure the Verizon stores open. > > I’m with you on your other thoughts though. :lol ---
**Author:** ![JoeD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/77aa72/32.png) [@JoeD](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JoeD)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2012, 1:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hostess-out-of-business-18-500-jobs-to-be-lost/265503/40 "2012-11-17T13:12:39Z")
> [@FS:94 boosted inetgra (new price+pictures)](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-94-boosted-inetgra-new-price-pictures/51088/3): > > When I met my wife she had a minimum wage job paid and still managed to work 40 hrs a week minimum while going to school full time and paying all of her own bills including rent. So for those who say they can’t make it work I say bullshit. It’s not a comfortable lifestyle and if you want to make a nice living you have to work hard and progress from there. The problem is exactly what is stated above, people are freakin lazy and want shit handed to them. My wife did the same but the again my rent back then was only 325 a month and gas was under a dollar a gallon. So I would say we had it easier. As for me I took all your tax money and had the army train me now I have a great job they even do tuition assistance up to 10k a year. No union needed. Did I mention I work for a Japanese company? Now that’s funny LoL! Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hostess-out-of-business-18-500-jobs-to-be-lost/265503.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hostess-out-of-business-18-500-jobs-to-be-lost/265503.md?page=3)