# Hot Rod goes 12.9 @ 112.9 in the New Camaro

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**Created:** [May 12, 2009, 4:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hot-rod-goes-12-9-112-9-in-the-new-camaro/202754 "2009-05-12T16:12:57Z")\
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**Post date:** [May 12, 2009, 7:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hot-rod-goes-12-9-112-9-in-the-new-camaro/202754/4 "2009-05-12T19:00:08Z")

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> [@Winter Storm Warning starting Saturday night (12/15)](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/winter-storm-warning-starting-saturday-night-12-15/40289/86):
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> actually that’s faster than stock 4th gens…
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> only the “factory freaks” 4th gens went high 12’s.
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> it’s nice to see some real numbers finally

A LOT of guys I know went 12 w/ full stock 4th gens. A good buddy went 12.66 and backed it up w/ a 12.70 in a bone stock (tires, paper filter, etc) WS6. I think a few magazines did though… but perhaps not Hot Rod, and certainly not on an entirely un-prepped proving grounds vs. a well prepped strip. LS1 Fbodies dynoed 290 ('98-00 A4s) to as high as 320 ('01-02 M6) with a few freak 330s claimed. Thus far 5th gens are proving to be in the high 360s consistently (I’ve really only seen M6 dynos). And nobody really had 3k+ miles on them. LS1s opened up a bit past 3-5k miles, and LS3 'vettes have proven to so I expect we’ll see a few mid-370s once somebody actually leaves a 5th Gen stock past 3-5k. But 4th Gens ran mid-3300lbs (1LE Z28s) to mid-3600lbs (fully optioned WS6s) whereas 5th Gen SSs are mid 3800lbs. The 20"s certainly aren’t helping either, though I don’t know how decent the tires are. ALL stock 4th Gen tires sucked balls, even the GY F1s on the SS/WS6s.

> [@FS: CRX/civic PARTs interior drivetrain + more](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-crx-civic-parts-interior-drivetrain-more/40304/15):
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> yea, another GM with a great motor but shitty everything else. When will they get it that the customer wants the whole package and not just a nice motor. fail

I don’t know about that… they got a lot right if you believe what’s out there to read. Of course, I won’t believe it 'til I drive it (hard) myself. But it _supposedly_ rides nice and quiet, handles well (better than stock 4th Gens), has good fit/finish, and has an overall refined feel. If only the interior didn’t bug me… but even that I need to give a chance in person.

-TJ

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