# how do manufacturers seal there bottles/jugs? **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Off Topic\ **Created:** [June 5, 2013, 1:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-do-manufacturers-seal-there-bottles-jugs/267155 "2013-06-05T13:38:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 32
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> [@help hairymonke aka 4x4 jimmy thief](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/help-hairymonke-aka-4x4-jimmy-thief/52766/118): > > Dave, don’t take offense to this I’m legitimately curious. Why combine creatine, which is supposed to help water retention, with caffeine, which is considered a diuretic? > > It just reminds me of people putting whey powder in milk, which is casein, post workout. most creatine actually induces water retention, ethyl ester is one that doesnt, or is said to do so the least. IMO its the absolute best creatine you can possibly get as the body absorbs 98% of it… Quite honestly the only reason id be throwing creatine monohydrate in there is as a filler, if i did as its cheaper… Monohydrate sucks, the body only absorbs like 1% of it. Either way ill be going with micronized forms of each so that I can use less product but still get more servings then other people with 2-3 times the product. The boost of energy that one (i know myself) gets from 100mg of caffeine (equivelent to two cups of coffee) is awesome preworkout without making my head feel like its about to pop off from blood rushing to my head like i feel when taking shit like NO Xplode, even though its a totally diff product… I dont know many or any soley creatine based products that use caffeine… lots use tons of sugar which gets the job done, but the body breaks it down and stores it as fat. I was also thinking about grabbing some liquid creatine and buying little trays with like 50 vials that fit in each tray with little creatine shots, but the cost would be up there and alot of people say liquid creatine sucks. --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-do-manufacturers-seal-there-bottles-jugs/267155)._