# How Do We End This once and For All? **URL:** \ **Category:** SON240sx Automotive\ **Created:** [May 30, 2006, 3:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-do-we-end-this-once-and-for-all/96460 "2006-05-30T15:08:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2006, 3:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-do-we-end-this-once-and-for-all/96460/1 "2006-05-30T15:08:00Z")
Ok guys we all know the Street racing problem. So Here is the question . Would a track in toronto solve this problem?. If u think so (so do I) But are You willing to sdo something about it? 1. Where would we put it? 2. Is the Tuner community willing to give 3% of their mod money? ( i am) 3. How do we bring it to the government ? Petition? Letter? City Pulse? lol I think we should challenge this Steven Harper fellow :roll: to put up or shut up!! (Match every cent we make!) Please take this thread serious guys and voice your opinion and lets do something and stop talking about it. ---
**Author:** ![Happy240sx](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/happy240sx/32/5515_2.png) [@Happy240sx](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Happy240sx)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2006, 3:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-do-we-end-this-once-and-for-all/96460/2 "2006-05-30T15:26:05Z")
3% of my mod money? Yeah right! ---
**Author:** ![sidewayz240](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e99b99/32.png) [@sidewayz240](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sidewayz240)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2006, 3:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-do-we-end-this-once-and-for-all/96460/3 "2006-05-30T15:30:58Z")
good idea but it would not get those gay street racers that get a rush from racing on the street, or those races where you pull up to a stop light and the person beside you challenges you, to come, and these are the people that actually cause the accidents most of the time. i would be for it though as i would love a track nice and close šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![Jesse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c77e96/32.png) [@Jesse](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jesse)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2006, 3:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-do-we-end-this-once-and-for-all/96460/4 "2006-05-30T15:34:16Z")
there are already 3 tracks in the gtaā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2006, 3:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-do-we-end-this-once-and-for-all/96460/5 "2006-05-30T15:34:40Z")
im thinking downsview park its a whole lot of nothing. ---
**Author:** ![AppleSauce](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/applesauce/32/5521_2.png) [@AppleSauce](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/AppleSauce)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2006, 3:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-do-we-end-this-once-and-for-all/96460/6 "2006-05-30T15:59:23Z")
Whatā€™s wrong with woodbridge racetrack?? ---
**Author:** ![StarScreaM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3da27b/32.png) [@StarScreaM](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/StarScreaM)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2006, 4:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-do-we-end-this-once-and-for-all/96460/7 "2006-05-30T16:25:04Z")
isnt woodbine racktrack for horses?! ---
**Author:** ![cloudzero3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/2acd7d/32.png) [@cloudzero3](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cloudzero3)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2006, 4:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-do-we-end-this-once-and-for-all/96460/8 "2006-05-30T16:39:36Z")
> [@StarScreaM](#): > > isnt woodbine racktrack for horses?! He said Woodbridge -\_\_\_-;; :o ---
**Author:** ![Theo23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/43a26b/32.png) [@Theo23](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Theo23)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2006, 4:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-do-we-end-this-once-and-for-all/96460/9 "2006-05-30T16:54:06Z")
Not gunna flyā€¦ Just look at how many people from this club go to the trackā€¦ like on a regular basisā€¦ and the costs couldnā€™t be any cheaper. I donā€™t think it will work out. Out of curiousity, where did you get the 3% from? Seems like you would have to have a TON of people in thisā€¦ like tens of thousands of people. Do you know how much realestate is worth in TO? and like 50acresā€¦ not to mention noise restrictions. Theo ---
**Author:** ![S13GG](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/s13gg/32/5506_2.png) [@S13GG](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/S13GG)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2006, 5:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-do-we-end-this-once-and-for-all/96460/10 "2006-05-30T17:18:38Z")
use san fransico as an exampleā€¦ I think it was there, the police stopped modded cars and encouraged them to participate in events they organized at a local 1/4 mile trackā€¦ apparently it worked wonders there ---
**Author:** ![bellofello](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ecb155/32.png) [@bellofello](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bellofello)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2006, 6:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-do-we-end-this-once-and-for-all/96460/11 "2006-05-30T18:06:40Z")
Yeah I like that race the cops Idea that san fran had, that would be awsome to race cops legaly! I good spot for a racetrack would be near the airport, where Area 51 paintball is. Theres space there and since its an airport there shouldnā€™t be many noise complaints ---
**Author:** ![swapsr20det](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/919ad9/32.png) [@swapsr20det](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/swapsr20det)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2006, 6:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-do-we-end-this-once-and-for-all/96460/12 "2006-05-30T18:22:33Z")
No matter how many tracks cops put up there will always be organized and unorganized street races. And frankly no matter how negativly you think about street racing just about everyone in this forum lets their car ā€œstretch its legsā€ now and then. Wether itā€™s in a race agiasnt someone or just a quick sprint, we all do it. What I think cops should do it decrease speeding ticket prices and demerit points lost if a organize race, or person is caught speeding ina rural no housed area, and increase penatlies in city/ towns. This way the people that will race on the street will at least go somewhere where they can only injure themselves. ---
**Author:** ![bellofello](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ecb155/32.png) [@bellofello](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bellofello)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2006, 6:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-do-we-end-this-once-and-for-all/96460/13 "2006-05-30T18:27:38Z")
I like the thing about the rural roads, that makes a lot of sense. Now with these harsher laws on racing, what are the cops going to define as ā€œstreet racingā€ like full blown racing event kind of thing (F&F 1 stlyle lol) or just two guys doing a quick jaunt from a set of lights but now going to excessive speeds, I mean like 120 in an 80 kind of thing ---
**Author:** ![S13GG](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/s13gg/32/5506_2.png) [@S13GG](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/S13GG)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2006, 6:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-do-we-end-this-once-and-for-all/96460/14 "2006-05-30T18:44:43Z")
uhm, I donā€™t think the cops were racing, just organizing to some extent and promotingā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![jammin1911](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a9a28c/32.png) [@jammin1911](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jammin1911)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2006, 6:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-do-we-end-this-once-and-for-all/96460/15 "2006-05-30T18:47:12Z")
3% of my mod money for a full-blown track? haha Iā€™m in. But like everyone said - it would never fly. Ever. I spend more than the ā€œaverageā€ guyā€¦ at least on this site, and 3% is only what, maybe 300 a year at best? you have zero knowledge of what acreage and property taxes are in the GTA if you think you could gather the funding for this šŸ™‚ I estimate you would need approx 250,000-300,000 people to pay ā€œ3% of their modding moneyā€ to get the licensing, development of the land, the land itself, the permits and building of the track. That covers the first year šŸ˜ƒ I hope youā€™re successful! ---
**Author:** ![BAS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bas/32/5540_2.png) [@BAS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BAS)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2006, 6:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-do-we-end-this-once-and-for-all/96460/16 "2006-05-30T18:53:32Z")
few things a) As has been stated the majority of ā€˜sterrt racesā€™ are beteeen two goofs in thier parents cars, at a light , spur of the momentā€¦ these are people who wonā€™t go to a track nor care about others they could put in danger. They are a write off, similar to the A holes in SUVā€™s or momā€™s in minivans doing 80 in a shcool zone. self involved arrogance. b) you can pretty much guarentee that NO new motorparks,/tracks will be built anywhere close to an urbanized zone in Ontario ever again. Bylaws and goverment bias see to that. if you want to try and get a pusedo track at some point put together then contact buttonville airport or Downsview armory/airstrip. to set up a night time or sundown event. Dontā€™ forget even you get the go ahead you still need to come up with insuranceā€¦ good luck getting an underwriter for that. c) A track based on the minimum NHRA specs is 1.5million to build. thatā€™s the minimum and the NHRA spec is what most underwriters will look for. Bradford was trying to get one built , even had the blessing of the mayor and the council of bradford, they had the land and a NHRA architech in handā€¦ they still didnā€™t get it off the ground. The ONLY possiblity you have now is to build well outside the urban zones, or to contact a municipal/regional airstrip to rent time on. A good example of this is dunvilleā€¦ if you hae the money then there are ways to get land, build aā€™trackā€™ and have it outside the mucipal/provincial bylawsā€¦ but it requres that you fall under federal jurisdictionā€¦ which is not bad. ---
**Author:** ![bellofello](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ecb155/32.png) [@bellofello](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bellofello)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2006, 7:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-do-we-end-this-once-and-for-all/96460/17 "2006-05-30T19:07:13Z")
> [@S13GG](#): > > uhm, I donā€™t think the cops were racing, just organizing to some extent and promotingā€¦ I donā€™t think were talking about the same thing (mine might not have been in San Fran though) but I saw it on TV a bunch of times, they had diesel trucks, cars, bikes all racing the cops and stuff. ---
**Author:** ![Lucas180](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/lucas180/32/5556_2.png) [@Lucas180](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Lucas180)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2006, 7:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-do-we-end-this-once-and-for-all/96460/18 "2006-05-30T19:07:36Z")
The more tracks around the better the way i see it ---
**Author:** ![G-E](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/g-e/32/5546_2.png) [@G-E](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/G-E)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2006, 7:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-do-we-end-this-once-and-for-all/96460/19 "2006-05-30T19:26:04Z")
frankly I donā€™t see how my $12 will accomplish anything ---
**Author:** ![AppleSauce](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/applesauce/32/5521_2.png) [@AppleSauce](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/AppleSauce)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2006, 7:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-do-we-end-this-once-and-for-all/96460/20 "2006-05-30T19:32:47Z")
> [@BAS](#): > > Dontā€™ forget even you get the go ahead you still need to come up with insuranceā€¦ good luck getting an underwriter for that. I hear the whole insurance bit all the time when it comes to a new track, but I donā€™t get it? Iā€™m assuming Cayuga, Shannonville, and St Thomas all have insurance. So why wouldnā€™t a new track be able to get it?? [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-do-we-end-this-once-and-for-all/96460.md?page=2)