# How do you feel about the supreme courts ruling of Heller vs DC?

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**Created:** [June 26, 2008, 6:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-do-you-feel-about-the-supreme-courts-ruling-of-heller-vs-dc/198262 "2008-06-26T18:24:43Z")\
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**Author:** ![Converted2LSX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/converted2lsx/32/5962_2.png) [@Converted2LSX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Converted2LSX)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2008, 9:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-do-you-feel-about-the-supreme-courts-ruling-of-heller-vs-dc/198262/21 "2008-06-29T09:04:49Z")

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Politicians are like diapers. They both need changing regularly and for the same reason

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**Author:** ![Sinner6.0L](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sinner6.0l/32/6016_2.png) [@Sinner6.0L](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sinner6.0L)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2008, 11:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-do-you-feel-about-the-supreme-courts-ruling-of-heller-vs-dc/198262/22 "2008-06-29T11:22:49Z")

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anyone watch cnn or msnbc lately? they’re in a complete uproar over something that’s been written in this country’s constitution. they think it’s there for their interpretation. there’s a big difference between anti-gun and anti-violence and the media wants everyone to believe they are the same.

imagine having to rely solely on the police for your own wellbeing. would you choose a gun or a cell phone if you had to face a knife yeilding criminal in your home? this just in, police to not have to risk their lives for anyone nor are they required to respond to any call

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**Author:** ![mp3ray](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mp3ray/32/5994_2.png) [@mp3ray](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/mp3ray)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2008, 2:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-do-you-feel-about-the-supreme-courts-ruling-of-heller-vs-dc/198262/23 "2008-06-29T14:33:53Z")

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> [@Delaware Rd (truth or not)](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/delaware-rd-truth-or-not/36947/48):
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> you do realize this is a western Pennsylvania based forum, right?

:bigthumb:

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**Author:** ![prhockey21](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/prhockey21/32/6035_2.png) [@prhockey21](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/prhockey21)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2008, 3:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-do-you-feel-about-the-supreme-courts-ruling-of-heller-vs-dc/198262/24 "2008-06-29T15:05:17Z")

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> [@Anyone run their own business?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-run-their-own-business/36906/14):
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> guns dont kill people illegal guns kill people… why would you take the guns away from the inocent so that ony criminals would have guns…and people couldnt defend themselves

X1000000000000000000000000000

Finally this country has done something right as of late.

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**Author:** ![Shaggy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shaggy/32/5945_2.png) [@Shaggy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shaggy)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2008, 4:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-do-you-feel-about-the-supreme-courts-ruling-of-heller-vs-dc/198262/25 "2008-06-29T16:32:28Z")

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people kill people legal or not.

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**Author:** ![kilmer420](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/d6d6ee/32.png) [@kilmer420](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/kilmer420)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2008, 10:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-do-you-feel-about-the-supreme-courts-ruling-of-heller-vs-dc/198262/26 "2008-06-30T10:40:18Z")

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For all of you morons that are going to vote for McCain based on this decision :doh: This is DC vs. Heller, not PA. Having guns in DC is just stupid. Have any of you even been there? Baltimore/Houston/DC fight for the 1,2,3 murder capitals in the USA. Why would we want guns there? And what Obama is saying is 100% correct, it’s not teeter tottering…

Obama:  
“I have always believed that the Second Amendment protects the right of individuals to bear arms, but I also identify with the need for crime-ravaged communities to save their children from the violence that plagues our streets through common-sense, effective safety measures. The Supreme Court has now endorsed that view, and while it ruled that the D.C. gun ban went too far, Justice Scalia himself acknowledged that this right is not absolute and subject to reasonable regulations enacted by local communities to keep their streets safe. Today’s ruling, the first clear statement on this issue in 127 years, will provide much-needed guidance to local jurisdictions across the country.

“As President, I will uphold the constitutional rights of law-abiding gun-owners, hunters, and sportsmen. I know that what works in Chicago may not work in Cheyenne. We can work together to enact common-sense laws, like closing the gun show loophole and improving our background check system, so that guns do not fall into the hands of terrorists or criminals. Today’s decision reinforces that if we act responsibly, we can both protect the constitutional right to bear arms and keep our communities and our children safe.”

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**Author:** ![Sinner6.0L](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sinner6.0l/32/6016_2.png) [@Sinner6.0L](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sinner6.0L)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2008, 2:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-do-you-feel-about-the-supreme-courts-ruling-of-heller-vs-dc/198262/27 "2008-06-30T14:12:47Z")

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so you don’t want people in their homes to be able to protect themselves in the most dangerous cities in the world? that’s the only issue at hand here. i support common sense gun laws, i’m not a felon and i couldn’t give a rats ass if the state knows i have a gun…but to say no one is allowed to have a legal means of protecting themselves from a home invasion is insane

no one in this thread supports violence, guns do not equate violence. take away guns and see what happens to violence…not a damn thing, criminals are criminals, **they do not care what the law says**

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**Author:** ![Shaggy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shaggy/32/5945_2.png) [@Shaggy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shaggy)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2008, 2:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-do-you-feel-about-the-supreme-courts-ruling-of-heller-vs-dc/198262/28 "2008-06-30T14:21:33Z")

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I support home defense, If the wife gets loud pop a cap in her ass.

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**Author:** ![tom\_vito](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tom_vito/32/6000_2.png) [@tom\_vito](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tom_vito)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2008, 2:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-do-you-feel-about-the-supreme-courts-ruling-of-heller-vs-dc/198262/29 "2008-06-30T14:28:42Z")

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> [@how many of u still](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-many-of-u-still/36985/14):
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> For all of you morons that are going to vote for McCain based on this decision
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> Obama:
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> “As President, I will uphold the constitutional rights of law-abiding gun-owners, hunters, and sportsmen. I know that what works in Chicago may not work in Cheyenne. We can work together to enact common-sense laws, like **closing the gun show loophole** and improving our background check system, so that guns do not fall into the hands of terrorists or criminals. Today’s decision reinforces that if we act responsibly, we can both protect the constitutional right to bear arms and keep our communities and our children safe.”

You got to be fucking joking right?

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**Author:** ![Shaggy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shaggy/32/5945_2.png) [@Shaggy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shaggy)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2008, 2:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-do-you-feel-about-the-supreme-courts-ruling-of-heller-vs-dc/198262/30 "2008-06-30T14:33:00Z")

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If i was president, I’d ban all bullet sales and replace it with rubber one’s.  
so if anyone replaced the rubber with lead clear cut case of trying to kill someone :finger:

If other countries like england and canada have alot less gun violence we can too. Just slash a throat instead.

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**Author:** ![Sinner6.0L](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sinner6.0l/32/6016_2.png) [@Sinner6.0L](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sinner6.0L)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2008, 7:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-do-you-feel-about-the-supreme-courts-ruling-of-heller-vs-dc/198262/31 "2008-06-30T19:15:58Z")

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I support home defense, If the wife gets loud pop a cap in her ass.

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:bowrofl:

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**Author:** ![liquid\_cool36](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/0ea827/32.png) [@liquid\_cool36](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/liquid_cool36)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2008, 8:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-do-you-feel-about-the-supreme-courts-ruling-of-heller-vs-dc/198262/32 "2008-06-30T20:08:28Z")

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> [@Delaware Rd (truth or not)](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/delaware-rd-truth-or-not/36947/48):
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> you do realize this is a western Pennsylvania based forum, right?

this is the internet dark…there are no more bounderys…and besides sire…one mind alone cannot think of all possiblilitys;but many minds can when compeating in the arena of idea’s .

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**Author:** ![Swarzkopf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7feea3/32.png) [@Swarzkopf](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Swarzkopf)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2008, 1:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-do-you-feel-about-the-supreme-courts-ruling-of-heller-vs-dc/198262/33 "2008-07-01T13:36:36Z")

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> For all of you morons that are going to vote for McCain based on this decision This is DC vs. Heller, not PA. Having guns in DC is just stupid. Have any of you even been there? Baltimore/Houston/DC fight for the 1,2,3 murder capitals in the USA. Why would we want guns there?

There already are guns there- hence the 1,2,3 murder capitals in the USA competition. The guns are owned by criminals. Criminals break the law. Criminals do not listen to the law. The law prohibits murder. Criminals still kill people. The laws there prohibit guns. Criminals still have guns. Why? Because they’re criminals.

Law abiding people don’t break the law. Law abiding people don’t murder people, because it’s illegal. Law abiding people in Washington, DC, didn’t have guns, because guns were illegal.

So- with guns illegal, we have a situation where criminals are armed (because, by nature, criminals break the law), and law abiding folks are not (because, by nature, law abiding citizens do not break the law). Does this seem like a good thing to you? Do you think that leaving law abiding citizens defenseless against criminals is a good idea?

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**Author:** ![Shaggy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shaggy/32/5945_2.png) [@Shaggy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shaggy)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2008, 2:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-do-you-feel-about-the-supreme-courts-ruling-of-heller-vs-dc/198262/34 "2008-07-01T14:11:53Z")

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blah blah blah

law abiding citizens still break the law, add alcohol instant idiot.

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**Post date:** [July 1, 2008, 2:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-do-you-feel-about-the-supreme-courts-ruling-of-heller-vs-dc/198262/35 "2008-07-01T14:57:52Z")

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> law abiding citizens still break the law

That’s impossible. If someone is breaking the law, by definition they’re no longer a law abiding citizen.

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**Author:** ![Shaggy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shaggy/32/5945_2.png) [@Shaggy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shaggy)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2008, 2:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-do-you-feel-about-the-supreme-courts-ruling-of-heller-vs-dc/198262/36 "2008-07-01T14:58:49Z")

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only if they get caught

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**Author:** ![beat90tsi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/43a26b/32.png) [@beat90tsi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/beat90tsi)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2008, 7:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-do-you-feel-about-the-supreme-courts-ruling-of-heller-vs-dc/198262/37 "2008-07-01T19:40:20Z")

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> [@how many of u still](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-many-of-u-still/36985/14):
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> Obama:  
> “As President, I will uphold the constitutional rights of law-abiding gun-owners, hunters, and sportsmen. I know that what works in Chicago may not work in Cheyenne. We can work together to enact common-sense laws, like closing the gun show loophole…”

There is no gun show loophole, that’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. Have you ever bought a gun at a gun show? The dealers are required to do a BG check, just like at a gun store. Common sense gun laws?? Do some research on Obama’s voting record on guns and gun owners. He voted (on a specific case) in IL to make a man’s defense of his home with a legally owned and registered firearm illegal, yet the law passed overwhelmingly to support the man’s actions and make them legal. Yeah, he’s a real friend of gun owners.

And one more thing… all you gun haters pay close attention to this one…THE 2ND AMENDMENT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HUNTING!

“Keep and bear” translated to modern language = “own and carry” It’s not just about in the home.

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**Author:** ![liquid\_cool36](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/0ea827/32.png) [@liquid\_cool36](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/liquid_cool36)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2008, 8:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-do-you-feel-about-the-supreme-courts-ruling-of-heller-vs-dc/198262/38 "2008-07-01T20:47:02Z")

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there is a town in ohio where the city made an ordanance requiering all lawfull citizens to have a hand gun on them at all times if over the age of 21 years…crime droppd by 99%…look it up

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**Author:** ![Pewter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pewter/32/5936_2.png) [@Pewter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pewter)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2008, 4:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-do-you-feel-about-the-supreme-courts-ruling-of-heller-vs-dc/198262/39 "2008-07-02T04:42:30Z")

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> [@i want this car](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-want-this-car/36992/6):
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> there is a town in ohio where the city made an ordanance requiering all lawfull citizens to have a hand gun on them at all times if over the age of 21 years…crime droppd by 99%…look it up

u say it,u LOOK it up!:wtcslap:

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**Author:** ![tom\_vito](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tom_vito/32/6000_2.png) [@tom\_vito](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tom_vito)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2008, 12:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-do-you-feel-about-the-supreme-courts-ruling-of-heller-vs-dc/198262/40 "2008-07-02T12:58:17Z")

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> [@i want this car](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-want-this-car/36992/6):
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> there is a town in ohio where the city made an ordanance requiering all lawfull citizens to have a hand gun on them at all times if over the age of 21 years…crime droppd by 99%…look it up

Hell why bring up ohio, when it has happened in PA.

[http://www.pafoa.org/forum/pennsylvania-10/1349-civil-protection-ordinance.html](http://www.pafoa.org/forum/pennsylvania-10/1349-civil-protection-ordinance.html)

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