# How do you feel about the supreme courts ruling of Heller vs DC? **URL:** \ **Category:** PittSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [June 26, 2008, 6:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-do-you-feel-about-the-supreme-courts-ruling-of-heller-vs-dc/198262 "2008-06-26T18:24:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![kilmer420](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/d6d6ee/32.png) [@kilmer420](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/kilmer420)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2008, 8:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-do-you-feel-about-the-supreme-courts-ruling-of-heller-vs-dc/198262/41 "2008-07-08T08:00:17Z")
> [@T.I. arrested](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/t-i-arrested/36995/26): > > There already are guns there- hence the 1,2,3 murder capitals in the USA competition. The guns are owned by criminals. Criminals break the law. Criminals do not listen to the law. The law prohibits murder. Criminals still kill people. The laws there prohibit guns. Criminals still have guns. Why? Because they’re criminals. > > Law abiding people don’t break the law. Law abiding people don’t murder people, because it’s illegal. Law abiding people in Washington, DC, didn’t have guns, because guns were illegal. > > So- with guns illegal, we have a situation where criminals are armed (because, by nature, criminals break the law), and law abiding folks are not (because, by nature, law abiding citizens do not break the law). Does this seem like a good thing to you? Do you think that leaving law abiding citizens defenseless against criminals is a good idea? This is why we have the police. Criminals will always be around creating crimes and breaking the law. That’s inevitable! > [@anyone use FTA reveivers ?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-use-fta-reveivers/36984/11): > > There is no gun show loophole, that’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. Have you ever bought a gun at a gun show? The dealers are required to do a BG check, just like at a gun store. Common sense gun laws?? Do some research on Obama’s voting record on guns and gun owners. He voted (on a specific case) in IL to make a man’s defense of his home with a legally owned and registered firearm illegal, yet the law passed overwhelmingly to support the man’s actions and make them legal. Yeah, he’s a real friend of gun owners. > > And one more thing… all you gun haters pay close attention to this one…THE 2ND AMENDMENT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HUNTING! > > “Keep and bear” translated to modern language = “own and carry” It’s not just about in the home. We are talking about DC, not IL or how much he loves guns and gun owners. I just think there are a lot of people that vote based on 1 issue vs. many issues at hand with the government, like the economy which I care much more about then guns. Yes, I own a gun, before someone jumps down my throat. Yes, this is a very tough issue, because there are 2 very rational sides to the story, but in a massive metropolis like DC I don’t think people really need guns, any more then already exist there, legally or not. ---
**Author:** ![beat90tsi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/43a26b/32.png) [@beat90tsi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/beat90tsi)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2008, 9:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-do-you-feel-about-the-supreme-courts-ruling-of-heller-vs-dc/198262/42 "2008-07-08T09:03:45Z")
> [@Fri 10/12 NYIRP](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fri-10-12-nyirp/36617/106): > > This is why we have the police. Criminals will always be around creating crimes and breaking the law. That’s inevitable! really? > On March 16, 1975, three women living in a Washington, D.C., townhouse were awakened by the sound of their back door being kicked in. > > Two invaders violently attacked one of the women, who had been asleep on the second floor. They beat and raped her. Her two roommates called the police from the third floor. Assured that help was coming, the women crawled out a window onto the roof, seeking safety. > > They saw a squad car slowly drive past. It never stopped. Terrified, the women crawled back into the house. Once more they called the police. Then they hid. > > Half an hour passed. The women, hearing no noises downstairs, assumed police had arrived and that they were safe. They went down to the second floor. The rapists were waiting. The three women were beaten and raped repeatedly–for 14 hours. The police never came. > > Thankfully, all three women survived. A lawsuit was brought against the D.C. police department. Ruling on the last appeal in 1981, the D.C. Court of Appeals said: “The duty to provide public services is owed to the public at large, and, absent a special relationship between the police and an individual, no specific legal duty exists.” > > In short, the police can`t be everywhere they are most needed. When you are attacked, it`s between you and the criminal. Law enforcement–despite the best of intentions and its officers` dedication–has no legal duty to help you. Cliffs: Women in DC are beaten and raped by intruders, they call the 5-0, the cops never show up, the women sue DC because the police didn’t help and were told “sorry, we don’t have to do that.” > [@Fri 10/12 NYIRP](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fri-10-12-nyirp/36617/106): > > We are talking about DC, not IL or how much he loves guns and gun owners. You are the one who brought up Barack Hussein Obama and his supposed 2nd amendment supporting stances. The 2nd amendment applies in both cities, but Barack doesn’t like free people to have guns. I showed you the truth, stop whining. > [@Fri 10/12 NYIRP](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fri-10-12-nyirp/36617/106): > > I just think there are a lot of people that vote based on 1 issue vs. many issues at hand with the government, like the economy which I care much more about then guns. Well the answer for both issues is the same, the government needs to GTFO. > [@Fri 10/12 NYIRP](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fri-10-12-nyirp/36617/106): > > Yes, I own a gun, before someone jumps down my throat. Yes, this is a very tough issue, because there are 2 very rational sides to the story, but in a massive metropolis like DC I don’t think people really need guns, any more then already exist there, legally or not. Newsflash, we have a Constitution that protects individual rights, what you think does not matter at all. The 2nd amendment applies everywhere, small towns, the desert, and metro areas like DC (which have the highest violent crime rates). ---
**Author:** ![Darkstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@Darkstar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Darkstar)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2008, 2:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-do-you-feel-about-the-supreme-courts-ruling-of-heller-vs-dc/198262/43 "2008-07-09T14:38:49Z")
> [@i want this car](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-want-this-car/36992/6): > > there is a town in ohio where the city made an ordanance requiering all lawfull citizens to have a hand gun on them at all times if over the age of 21 years…crime droppd by 99%…look it up oh yeah, well 99.43% of my posts are all about how no one wants to hear the bullshit facts you pull out of your ass. ---
**Author:** ![Sinner6.0L](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sinner6.0l/32/6016_2.png) [@Sinner6.0L](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sinner6.0L)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2008, 5:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-do-you-feel-about-the-supreme-courts-ruling-of-heller-vs-dc/198262/44 "2008-07-09T17:49:49Z")
> [@Fri 10/12 NYIRP](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fri-10-12-nyirp/36617/106): > > This is why we have the police. do you really believe that? or is it just some bs you are repeating because you read it somewhere? so during a home invasion you’ll rather hold a cellphone with 911 on speed dial than a loaded handgun? ---
**Author:** ![Sinner6.0L](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sinner6.0l/32/6016_2.png) [@Sinner6.0L](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sinner6.0L)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2008, 5:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-do-you-feel-about-the-supreme-courts-ruling-of-heller-vs-dc/198262/45 "2008-07-09T17:52:29Z")
> [@Fri 10/12 NYIRP](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fri-10-12-nyirp/36617/106): > > but in a massive metropolis like DC I don’t think people really need guns, any more then already exist there, legally or not. wait lemme guess, you’re a fan off cnn and msnbc? that’s the same kind of irrational thinking they’d come up with [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-do-you-feel-about-the-supreme-courts-ruling-of-heller-vs-dc/198262.md?page=2)