# How educated are you? **URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-educated-are-you/252234 **Category:** Shift518 Off Topic **Created:** [May 23, 2010, 5:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-educated-are-you/252234 "2010-05-23T17:53:28Z") **Posts on this page:** 1 **Showing post:** 109
### Author: ![aldog1330](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/aldog1330/32/6517_2.png) [@aldog1330](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/aldog1330) #### Post date: [May 29, 2010, 9:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-educated-are-you/252234/109 "2010-05-29T21:56:09Z")
AAS in Comp Sci from FMCC, BS in Come Sci from SUNYIT Utica/Rome, hated programming, couldn’t find a job, ended up going back and getting my MS degree in Telecommunications from SUNYIT. I love the networking aspect of IT. In most cases, to move past a certain level in most companies, you will need at least a 4 year college degree, even if you can currently move up the company ladder without one. But like everyone else has said in this thread, everyone and their mother has a Bachelors degree, so you really need something extra to stand out from the crowd. Some employers look towards certs, though really all a cert means is you can study for and pass a test. A lot of IT related stuff is learned from hands on training that you get on the job. Knowing how to put a basic configuration on a router or switch is one thing, but knowing what/how to design a network outside of a lab isn’t something you learn only from reading a book. I didn’t learn/retain much technically from the MS Telecom classes but it did teach me to think and think outside the box, plus the research aspect, which while a pain in the balls at the time, does come in handy too. > [@2 yr old raped by pitbull](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2-yr-old-raped-by-pitbull/32164/79): > > Grade 18s are making almost 50K to start. Not a bad gig if you ask me. Grade 18’s do start out decent, with good pay/benefits. The only issue is you really need to know someone who is in a position to influence hiring as its not easy to get hired off the street without knowing anyone. That in itself is a giant flaw of the Civil Service system - you can never get enough qualified, worthy people into the positions they deserve. Plus there is a hiring freeze so no one should be holding their breath for a state job in the near future. --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-educated-are-you/252234)._