# How educated are you?

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**Created:** [May 23, 2010, 5:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-educated-are-you/252234 "2010-05-23T17:53:28Z")
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### Author: ![aldog1330](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/aldog1330/32/6517_2.png) [@aldog1330](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/aldog1330)
#### Post date: [May 30, 2010, 7:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-educated-are-you/252234/111 "2010-05-30T19:31:02Z")

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> [@J&J Shafts yet Another Customer (7/12/07)](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/j-j-shafts-yet-another-customer-7-12-07/32262/99):
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> One major exception to that is for IT jobs, though. The state is trying to move away from using consultants as heavily as they do and they’re looking to insource more work, but there is a lack of qualified people who want to leave the consulting world and enter state service.

Correct, and the consultants won’t leave the consulting world because in most cases the insourcing positions represent a 30-50% pay cut. While I agree that many consulting firms get filthy rich off the state, the state also cannot hire qualified individuals off the street to do many of the IT jobs with the way the system is currently. Most people with 5-10 years of experience in the industry aren’t going to consider coming into the state as a grade 18 entry level person. While they have grade 23 open competitive tests to hire off the street, those lists are rarely used. For anyone looking for an IT job, it definitely doesn’t hurt to at least go through the paces to get get put on a list, but don’t hold your breath that you will get hired anytime soon.

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