# how long does it take your PC/Apple to start up

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**Created:** [October 2, 2010, 4:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-long-does-it-take-your-pc-apple-to-start-up/161051 "2010-10-02T16:00:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![Jack](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jack/32/7613_2.png) [@Jack](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jack)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2010, 6:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-long-does-it-take-your-pc-apple-to-start-up/161051/21 "2010-10-03T06:50:07Z")

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> [@ProgRocker](#):
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> I wish I could figure out why mine takes so long :-/

Tell me about it.

But, I’m running over HDMI now, so I can’t see anything until the Window’s icon flashes in Vista 64. I have an enterprise Windows 7 I’ll be throwing on an SSD and we’ll see what it does.

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**Author:** ![ProgRocker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/progrocker/32/5434_2.png) [@ProgRocker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ProgRocker)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2010, 6:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-long-does-it-take-your-pc-apple-to-start-up/161051/22 "2010-10-03T06:53:28Z")

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> [@Jack](#):
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> Tell me about it.
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> But, I’m running over HDMI now, so I can’t see anything until the Window’s icon flashes in Vista 64. I have an enterprise Windows 7 I’ll be throwing on an SSD and we’ll see what it does.

Why HDMI?

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**Author:** ![Jack](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jack/32/7613_2.png) [@Jack](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jack)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2010, 7:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-long-does-it-take-your-pc-apple-to-start-up/161051/23 "2010-10-03T07:34:34Z")

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My monitor has sound. And I don’t run anything higher than HDMI can support.

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**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2010, 7:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-long-does-it-take-your-pc-apple-to-start-up/161051/24 "2010-10-03T07:37:27Z")

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Jack didn’t you spend some stupid amount of money on your computer :lol:

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**Author:** ![ProgRocker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/progrocker/32/5434_2.png) [@ProgRocker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ProgRocker)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2010, 8:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-long-does-it-take-your-pc-apple-to-start-up/161051/25 "2010-10-03T08:43:15Z")

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> [@LZ](#):
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> Jack didn’t you spend some stupid amount of money on your computer :lol:

But if you are a tech head like a few of us on here…is there a such thing as stupid money when it comes to computers ???

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**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2010, 9:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-long-does-it-take-your-pc-apple-to-start-up/161051/26 "2010-10-03T09:32:05Z")

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Lol I built mine on the cheap and it does everything I need great…4-5 vms…boots in the low 20s

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**Author:** ![llink78](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/llink78/32/8037_2.png) [@llink78](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/llink78)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2010, 9:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-long-does-it-take-your-pc-apple-to-start-up/161051/27 "2010-10-03T09:38:55Z")

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fuck it im buying a SSD. i love all your your 20 some second boot times. so who wants to image all my stuff to the SSd when i get it

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**Author:** ![ProgRocker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/progrocker/32/5434_2.png) [@ProgRocker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ProgRocker)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2010, 10:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-long-does-it-take-your-pc-apple-to-start-up/161051/28 "2010-10-03T10:11:29Z")

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> [@llink78](#):
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> fuck it im buying a SSD. i love all your your 20 some second boot times. so who wants to image all my stuff to the SSd when i get it

Use this:

> **[Disk Cloning Software for Fast & Secure Clone on Windows](https://www.easeus.com/disk-copy/home-edition/)**
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> EaseUS Disk Copy software is an easy-to-use disk cloning software for home user. Regardless of your operating system, this safe disk clone software can safely migrate your hard disk to another one and ensure 100% identical to the original one.

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**Author:** ![ZOMGVTEK](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zomgvtek/32/5063_2.png) [@ZOMGVTEK](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ZOMGVTEK)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2010, 10:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-long-does-it-take-your-pc-apple-to-start-up/161051/29 "2010-10-03T10:22:15Z")

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> [@llink78](#):
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> fuck it im buying a SSD. i love all your your 20 some second boot times. so who wants to image all my stuff to the SSd when i get it

To make sure you dont go and buy some random cheap-o SSD, get a OCZ Vertex 2. Theyre currently the ‘one to get’ due to being ‘cheap’ and the best all around SSD.

Some of the cheap ones, and even more expensive ones are trash. They have slow read and write speeds, and while the random seeks may be low, they have poor IO performance on small files, which is what your OS is made up of…

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**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2010, 10:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-long-does-it-take-your-pc-apple-to-start-up/161051/30 "2010-10-03T10:39:10Z")

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I wouldn’t just copy your current OS onto a SSD it fucks up the alignment…I also wouldn’t use a SSD with out Windows 7

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**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2010, 10:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-long-does-it-take-your-pc-apple-to-start-up/161051/31 "2010-10-03T10:47:54Z")

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Hmm…I always use hibernate to keep things under 20 seconds

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**Author:** ![llink78](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/llink78/32/8037_2.png) [@llink78](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/llink78)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2010, 12:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-long-does-it-take-your-pc-apple-to-start-up/161051/32 "2010-10-03T12:23:38Z")

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well i deff use windows 7 and i guess more of that i meant is a fresh copy of windows on there then my files from my HD transfered

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**Author:** ![ZOMGVTEK](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zomgvtek/32/5063_2.png) [@ZOMGVTEK](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ZOMGVTEK)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2010, 12:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-long-does-it-take-your-pc-apple-to-start-up/161051/33 "2010-10-03T12:44:02Z")

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If its a desktop, id imagine you have more than one SATA connector on the mobo, plug the old drive in and transfer files after you install windows.

If its a laptop, get a cheap external SATA enclosure for your current drive, transfer them that way over USB. Theyre under $10. Assuming your drive is SATA of course…

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**Author:** ![Jack](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jack/32/7613_2.png) [@Jack](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jack)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2010, 1:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-long-does-it-take-your-pc-apple-to-start-up/161051/34 "2010-10-03T13:22:25Z")

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> [@LZ](#):
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> Jack didn’t you spend some stupid amount of money on your computer :lol:

Um, it isn’t a race to see who can sit down boot up and get their headphones on first where I play.

I spent good money in all of the right places for **my** computer. It is perfect for the wife to surf facebook. Next thing will be SSD and 7, and then my boot times will reflect $$$$ spent.

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**Author:** ![Joe\_Omerta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Joe\_Omerta](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe_Omerta)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2010, 2:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-long-does-it-take-your-pc-apple-to-start-up/161051/35 "2010-10-03T14:28:12Z")

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With SSD’s always use windows 7, and never copy files over. Fresh installs is a MUST in order for TRIM to work properly.

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**Author:** ![Gus](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gus/32/5112_2.png) [@Gus](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gus)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2010, 2:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-long-does-it-take-your-pc-apple-to-start-up/161051/36 "2010-10-03T14:37:57Z")

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While testing this last night talking to Prog, I achieved 43 seconds. P4, 4gig ram, xp pro. I should take advantage of my volume licensing code for 7, but I think 7 would slow my boot time down.

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**Author:** ![llink78](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/llink78/32/8037_2.png) [@llink78](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/llink78)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2010, 2:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-long-does-it-take-your-pc-apple-to-start-up/161051/37 "2010-10-03T14:52:32Z")

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when i first started it i was at 54, after a few tries and removing stuff and stoping things at startup im down to 46… i guess anything under a min on my home laptop is fine with me. But seeing all these 20ish times make me really want a SSD harddrive. maybe ill wait till after x-mas and but like a 120gb and a 4gb stick of ram… maybe i can find black friday sales?

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**Author:** ![Jack](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jack/32/7613_2.png) [@Jack](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jack)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2010, 3:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-long-does-it-take-your-pc-apple-to-start-up/161051/38 "2010-10-03T15:04:19Z")

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Gus - I think the problem is that most of us are comparing apples to oranges as far as boot times… nobody here has identical software… let alone OSs. If we all had the same exact installs on different hardware, that would be a better display of horsepower/boot time. If we all had identical hardware, we’d be able to tell which OS boots faster… I’m pretty sure 7 \> XP \> Vista… but don’t quote me on that.

We don’t even have similar CPUs… lol.

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**Author:** ![llink78](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/llink78/32/8037_2.png) [@llink78](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/llink78)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2010, 4:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-long-does-it-take-your-pc-apple-to-start-up/161051/39 "2010-10-03T16:07:03Z")

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im well aware of that, i was just wondering where everyone is at with it

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**Author:** ![ZOMGVTEK](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zomgvtek/32/5063_2.png) [@ZOMGVTEK](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ZOMGVTEK)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2010, 5:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-long-does-it-take-your-pc-apple-to-start-up/161051/40 "2010-10-03T17:32:20Z")

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Boot times arent very important to me…  
But for a notebook I carry with me most of the day, occasionally bash into doorways, drop, etc… I want a SSD.  
With a well optimized OS you can boot into Windows in 30 seconds with a mechanical drive and a ‘slow’ old computer. It has little to do with horsepower, more to do with BIOS optimization. Out of my 24 second boot time, at least 1/2 of that is with a blank or white screen while the EFI is inspecting hardware. The new i5/i7 MacBook Pros have a somewhat slow EFI compared to the previous gens. My C2D MacBook Pro would go to the swirling Apple logo in 4 seconds, ive seen SSD boots on those in 16-18 seconds…

SSD’s arent very expensive. You can get a 60GB OCZ Vertex 2 for $100 or so… Thats all you need for a boot drive. Just put your OS on it, maybe some common apps. Media can go on a $100 2TB drive.

And did I mention its essentially impossible to recover data off flash memory once its been zeroed out? 😉

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