# how long does it take your PC/Apple to start up **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [October 2, 2010, 4:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-long-does-it-take-your-pc-apple-to-start-up/161051 "2010-10-02T16:00:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![ProgRocker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/progrocker/32/5434_2.png) [@ProgRocker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ProgRocker)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2010, 6:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-long-does-it-take-your-pc-apple-to-start-up/161051/41 "2010-10-03T18:19:40Z")
SSDs are expensive considering the amount of space you get. If 60GB is all you need then, yeah, $100-150 can get you one of those. I however need at least 120-150GB to feel comfortable. Jack also hit the nail on the head. Right now my computer is multi-purpose, has games, photoshop, firefox, etc. on it. So I take a bit longer to boot. I bet getting a fresh install of 7 would drop my time down 20s or so. ---
**Author:** ![Joe\_Omerta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Joe\_Omerta](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe_Omerta)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2010, 9:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-long-does-it-take-your-pc-apple-to-start-up/161051/42 "2010-10-03T21:58:21Z")
some of the 2TB drives are pushing 100MB/s read/write speeds which is close to the low end SSD’s. take 4 2TB drives, 2 in raid 0 and raid 1 w/ the other 2 in raid 0 and you’ve got a pretty badass setup with tons of storage space and a full backup. ---
**Author:** ![zwarbyt](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zwarbyt/32/7623_2.png) [@zwarbyt](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/zwarbyt)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2010, 7:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-long-does-it-take-your-pc-apple-to-start-up/161051/43 "2010-10-04T07:03:26Z")
29 mbp ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2010, 7:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-long-does-it-take-your-pc-apple-to-start-up/161051/44 "2010-10-04T07:10:39Z")
> [@Joe\_Omerta](#): > > some of the 2TB drives are pushing 100MB/s read/write speeds which is close to the low end SSD’s. take 4 2TB drives, 2 in raid 0 and raid 1 w/ the other 2 in raid 0 and you’ve got a pretty badass setup with tons of storage space and a full backup. and like several hundred dollars in hard drives… ---
**Author:** ![RobHimself](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e480ec/32.png) [@RobHimself](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RobHimself)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2010, 7:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-long-does-it-take-your-pc-apple-to-start-up/161051/45 "2010-10-04T07:58:50Z")
Asus netbook pcie ssd. Windows 7 ultimate. About 40 seconds. ---
**Author:** ![Gl1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gl1/32/5471_2.png) [@Gl1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gl1)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2010, 7:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-long-does-it-take-your-pc-apple-to-start-up/161051/46 "2010-10-04T07:59:36Z")
I’m uploading my video to youtube now. it was quite a bit longer than i had hoped for. alot of time was just waiting for the motherboard to P.O.S.T. stupid X58. ---
**Author:** ![ProgRocker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/progrocker/32/5434_2.png) [@ProgRocker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ProgRocker)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2010, 8:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-long-does-it-take-your-pc-apple-to-start-up/161051/47 "2010-10-04T08:04:55Z")
> [@Gl@re](#): > > I’m uploading my video to youtube now. it was quite a bit longer than i had hoped for. alot of time was just waiting for the motherboard to P.O.S.T. stupid X58. I messed around with some settings in the BIOS to get it quicker…If I can make a video later I will I might do a clean install of Windows 7 ---
**Author:** ![Gl1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gl1/32/5471_2.png) [@Gl1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gl1)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2010, 8:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-long-does-it-take-your-pc-apple-to-start-up/161051/48 "2010-10-04T08:43:00Z")
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**Author:** ![ZOMGVTEK](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zomgvtek/32/5063_2.png) [@ZOMGVTEK](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ZOMGVTEK)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2010, 8:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-long-does-it-take-your-pc-apple-to-start-up/161051/49 "2010-10-04T08:49:24Z")
Wow that was close to 2 mins… And generally anything in RAID 0 increases latency without a good controller, increasing boot times. Along with the additional boot wait generally associated with RAID. You need to clean those SSDs, reinstall windows, and optimize your BIOS. ---
**Author:** ![Gl1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gl1/32/5471_2.png) [@Gl1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gl1)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2010, 8:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-long-does-it-take-your-pc-apple-to-start-up/161051/50 "2010-10-04T08:53:15Z")
I know, I really need to install win 7 on this thing, and keep more of my stuff on my external raid. with a clean install it’s much faster, but it works so I’m not going to mess with it for now. but notice the post beep didn’t even happen until :35? that’s just x58 boards… idk why but every one i’ve tried does this. ---
**Author:** ![ZOMGVTEK](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zomgvtek/32/5063_2.png) [@ZOMGVTEK](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ZOMGVTEK)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2010, 9:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-long-does-it-take-your-pc-apple-to-start-up/161051/51 "2010-10-04T09:42:36Z")
Youre not going to be able to do much about the long post time, but its still slow afterwards. You need to have TRIM, disable hardware you dont need in the BIOS, and killing RAID would probably help as well. You shouldnt have a issue getting the boot times to 10-15 seconds after it posts… This is about 21 seconds. And its on a nearly full SSD without TRIM, 2-3 year old OS install, 256bit AES encryption. Of course, its a different OS… ---
**Author:** ![Gl1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gl1/32/5471_2.png) [@Gl1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gl1)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2010, 9:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-long-does-it-take-your-pc-apple-to-start-up/161051/52 "2010-10-04T09:45:21Z")
believe me it’s even slower without raid 0, and i get an acces time of .01 milliseconds with or without raid on. Vista doesn’t support trim, and you can’t use trim in raid, so no go there. And I already did the other tweaks and I’m uploading a video now. Edit: macs boot alot faster than PC’s you can’t really compare the boot times. here’s after some tweaks ---
**Author:** ![Jack](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jack/32/7613_2.png) [@Jack](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jack)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2010, 6:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-long-does-it-take-your-pc-apple-to-start-up/161051/53 "2010-10-04T18:12:59Z")
Gl@re, thanks. You make me feel better about my boot times… X58 here as well. ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2010, 7:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-long-does-it-take-your-pc-apple-to-start-up/161051/54 "2010-10-04T19:11:15Z")
my ubuntu netbook just booted in 45 seconds, 50 to google chrome up and running ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2010, 8:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-long-does-it-take-your-pc-apple-to-start-up/161051/55 "2010-10-04T20:00:10Z")
My computer is always on. I never even use sleep mode, etc. and I’ve been doing that for years. The last time I did a hard re-start was at least 6 months ago. ---
**Author:** ![Gl1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gl1/32/5471_2.png) [@Gl1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gl1)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2010, 9:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-long-does-it-take-your-pc-apple-to-start-up/161051/56 "2010-10-04T21:08:21Z")
crap you guys got me thinking about my hard drive performance, so I updated my ssds’ firmware, and i forgot your supposed to back up first fml. now i have to re download all my games. ---
**Author:** ![evane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/6bbea6/32.png) [@evane](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/evane)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 6:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-long-does-it-take-your-pc-apple-to-start-up/161051/57 "2010-10-05T06:41:42Z")
> [@Joe\_Omerta](#): > > some of the 2TB drives are pushing 100MB/s read/write speeds which is close to the low end SSD’s. take 4 2TB drives, 2 in raid 0 and raid 1 w/ the other 2 in raid 0 and you’ve got a pretty badass setup with tons of storage space and a full backup. Raid is no replacement for backups. ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 10:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-long-does-it-take-your-pc-apple-to-start-up/161051/58 "2010-10-05T10:46:24Z")
> [@evane](#): > > Raid is no replacement for backups. :tup: ---
**Author:** ![ProgRocker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/progrocker/32/5434_2.png) [@ProgRocker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ProgRocker)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 10:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-long-does-it-take-your-pc-apple-to-start-up/161051/59 "2010-10-05T10:55:54Z")
> [@evane](#): > > Raid is no replacement for backups. In a network environment…absolutely not, I agree. For people who want to backup pictures of their cat fuffy, I guess I can see it. I personally would never use RAID in a backup scenario. Even a RAID backup is better than the people who move the original to a USB drive and call it a backup. ---
**Author:** ![Gl1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gl1/32/5471_2.png) [@Gl1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gl1)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 11:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-long-does-it-take-your-pc-apple-to-start-up/161051/60 "2010-10-05T11:01:04Z")
> [@ProgRocker](#): > > In a network environment…absolutely not, I agree. For people who want to backup pictures of their cat fuffy, I guess I can see it. I personally would never use RAID in a backup scenario. Even a RAID backup is better than the people who move the original to a USB drive and call it a backup. I would say that moving it to a USB drive is better than raid. a virus could wipe out your data on a raid array way easier. also the USB stick usually isn’t plugged in all the time, meaning it’s less susceptible to a power surge. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-long-does-it-take-your-pc-apple-to-start-up/161051.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-long-does-it-take-your-pc-apple-to-start-up/161051.md?page=4)