# How many people think these are ugly? **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [December 12, 2010, 4:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-many-people-think-these-are-ugly/207126 "2010-12-12T16:37:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![cougarspeed](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cougarspeed/32/7468_2.png) [@cougarspeed](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cougarspeed)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2010, 5:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-many-people-think-these-are-ugly/207126/21 "2010-12-12T17:13:56Z")
Nystanger That 944 in the other thread looks great imo. ---
**Author:** ![ieatpaint](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ieatpaint/32/7311_2.png) [@ieatpaint](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ieatpaint)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2010, 5:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-many-people-think-these-are-ugly/207126/22 "2010-12-12T17:15:06Z")
> [@Z31NA2T](#): > > So it fits in with mustangs and camaros? LOL haha pretty much. ![http://www.hpiv.net/images/cars/iroc/87pax.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/5/0/506b6ea221dfb31752a460f07eee5ea1175caa15.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2010, 5:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-many-people-think-these-are-ugly/207126/23 "2010-12-12T17:18:22Z")
> [@ieatpaint](#): > > haha pretty much. > > ![http://www.hpiv.net/images/cars/iroc/87pax.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/5/0/506b6ea221dfb31752a460f07eee5ea1175caa15.jpeg) I’d def take either of these over the Z31. ---
**Author:** ![Z31NA2T](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e495f1/32.png) [@Z31NA2T](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Z31NA2T)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2010, 5:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-many-people-think-these-are-ugly/207126/24 "2010-12-12T17:19:35Z")
> [@Joe](#): > > I’d def take either of these over the Z31. Drive all 3 first, you’ll change your mind. lol ---
**Author:** ![MPD47](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mpd47/32/7383_2.png) [@MPD47](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MPD47)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2010, 5:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-many-people-think-these-are-ugly/207126/25 "2010-12-12T17:20:09Z")
C4 \> Z31 no question. ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2010, 5:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-many-people-think-these-are-ugly/207126/26 "2010-12-12T17:21:16Z")
I was going based on looks. I’ve driven an LT1 vette and it wasn’t horrible. Don’t these have like 200hp? ---
**Author:** ![ieatpaint](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ieatpaint/32/7311_2.png) [@ieatpaint](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ieatpaint)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2010, 5:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-many-people-think-these-are-ugly/207126/27 "2010-12-12T17:21:36Z")
Sharp stick in the eye \> Z31 ---
**Author:** ![Motocrossx23](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/motocrossx23/32/5120_2.png) [@Motocrossx23](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Motocrossx23)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2010, 5:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-many-people-think-these-are-ugly/207126/28 "2010-12-12T17:22:12Z")
944’s are nice IMO ---
**Author:** ![Z31NA2T](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e495f1/32.png) [@Z31NA2T](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Z31NA2T)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2010, 5:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-many-people-think-these-are-ugly/207126/29 "2010-12-12T17:24:54Z")
> [@Joe](#): > > I was going based on looks. I’ve driven an LT1 vette and it wasn’t horrible. Don’t these have like 200hp? Yes, 200hp. I was basing it off build quality, and how they drive. Last few C4s i’ve driven were poorly built rattle boxes. Z31s don’t rattle, rev smoothly, etc. BUT, $5 boost controller set to 10psi and a Z31 makes ~250whp, ~280wtq ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2010, 5:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-many-people-think-these-are-ugly/207126/30 "2010-12-12T17:26:05Z")
Nope, still taking the rattling C4. ---
**Author:** ![HotRodKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hotrodkid/32/7609_2.png) [@HotRodKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HotRodKid)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2010, 5:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-many-people-think-these-are-ugly/207126/31 "2010-12-12T17:27:37Z")
> [@Z31NA2T"](#): > > Some guy who loves european cars asked me to ask you all how many people think they’re ugly. Since when is a Nissan z31 considered European? ---
**Author:** ![cougarspeed](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cougarspeed/32/7468_2.png) [@cougarspeed](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cougarspeed)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2010, 5:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-many-people-think-these-are-ugly/207126/32 "2010-12-12T17:30:19Z")
> [@Z31NA2T](#): > > Yes, 200hp. I was basing it off build quality, and how they drive. Last few C4s i’ve driven were poorly built rattle boxes. Z31s don’t rattle, rev smoothly, etc. BUT, $5 boost controller set to 10psi and a Z31 makes ~250whp, ~280wtq Man not to be a dick but im pretty sure if that car posted is yours it does not in fact drive like a dream compared to a C4. ---
**Author:** ![Z31NA2T](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e495f1/32.png) [@Z31NA2T](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Z31NA2T)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2010, 5:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-many-people-think-these-are-ugly/207126/33 "2010-12-12T17:32:13Z")
> [@HotRodKid](#): > > post pis of european cars so we can actually vote Its not comparing Z31s to european cars, its your opinion on the Z31. This wasn’t meant for comparisons. Doesn’t really bother me either way. I like my Z31, and the general public that (when it was nice before it got hit and I started doing body work, widebody, etc) constantly said “nice car”…that means more than biased opinions. Heres my car with its stock ugly wheels when I bought it for $650, before some moron in a Saab hit the 1/4 panel. Regardless of everyones opinions here, people always seemed to like it. 🙂 Just curious what this forum’s members opinions are, because I’ve already heard from some of the general public… > [@cougarspeed](#): > > Man not to be a dick but im pretty sure if that car posted is yours it does not in fact drive like a dream compared to a C4. Don’t let looks screw with your mind, it doesn’t look great but it has aftermarket springs that are 2.5 times as stiff as the stock springs, bilstein HD shocks, and larger sway bars. Its getting poly urethane bushings soon. But as of right now, it has all \<2 year old rubber bushings, straight from Nissan. ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2010, 5:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-many-people-think-these-are-ugly/207126/34 "2010-12-12T17:44:51Z")
Actually I would take car guys opinions as more valid than the general public. I mean, 50% of the general public is female and you can eliminate 98% of that 50%'s opinions right off the top. ---
**Author:** ![NYstanger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/6a8cbe/32.png) [@NYstanger](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/NYstanger)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2010, 5:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-many-people-think-these-are-ugly/207126/35 "2010-12-12T17:45:53Z")
> [@cougarspeed](#): > > Nystanger > > That 944 in the other thread looks great imo. In your opinion. In mine I don’t like the boxy back half mixed with a bubbly front end. With the Z31, its got a boxy rear matched to a boxy front. ---
**Author:** ![Z31NA2T](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e495f1/32.png) [@Z31NA2T](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Z31NA2T)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2010, 5:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-many-people-think-these-are-ugly/207126/36 "2010-12-12T17:47:55Z")
> [@Joe](#): > > Actually I would take car guys opinions as more valid than the general public. I mean, 50% of the general public is female and you can eliminate 98% of that 50%'s opinions right off the top. So what you’re saying is, the hot females that have complimented my car prior to get getting hit don’t matter? Guess you pick up guys? ---
**Author:** ![cougarspeed](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cougarspeed/32/7468_2.png) [@cougarspeed](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cougarspeed)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2010, 5:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-many-people-think-these-are-ugly/207126/37 "2010-12-12T17:49:51Z")
> [@NYstanger](#): > > In your opinion. In mine I don’t like the boxy back half mixed with a bubbly front end. With the Z31, its got a boxy rear matched to a boxy front. My opinion is better cause it is mine. /beyyyyooootcccch! lol ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2010, 5:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-many-people-think-these-are-ugly/207126/38 "2010-12-12T17:50:14Z")
> [@Z31NA2T](#): > > So what you’re saying is, the hot females that have complimented my car prior to get getting hit don’t matter? No, I’m saying they don’t exist. ---
**Author:** ![cougarspeed](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cougarspeed/32/7468_2.png) [@cougarspeed](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cougarspeed)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2010, 5:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-many-people-think-these-are-ugly/207126/39 "2010-12-12T17:51:21Z")
> [@Z31NA2T](#): > > So what you’re saying is, the hot females that have complimented my car prior to get getting hit don’t matter? Guess you pick up guys? How chix do not like that thing you drive. I am sorry I am trying to be nice but that is a stretch. Maybe they seem hot to you since you also think the z31 looks great. 6s at best. Also they are deff poor and prob ~21. ---
**Author:** ![NYstanger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/6a8cbe/32.png) [@NYstanger](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/NYstanger)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2010, 5:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-many-people-think-these-are-ugly/207126/40 "2010-12-12T17:51:45Z")
> [@Z31NA2T](#): > > So what you’re saying is, the hot females that have complimented my car prior to get getting hit don’t matter? Guess you pick up guys? don’t lie, there were no “hot females” and looks wise yours isn’t a real head turner aside from just being something you don’t see all to often. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-many-people-think-these-are-ugly/207126.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-many-people-think-these-are-ugly/207126.md?page=3)