# how much power can stock a h22 motor make

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**Category:** Shift518 Automotive\
**Created:** [July 26, 2009, 6:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-much-power-can-stock-a-h22-motor-make/245701 "2009-07-26T18:29:01Z")\
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**Author:** ![Alpine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@Alpine](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Alpine)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2009, 10:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-much-power-can-stock-a-h22-motor-make/245701/61 "2009-07-26T22:38:16Z")

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**Author:** ![PJB](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pjb/32/6389_2.png) [@PJB](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PJB)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2009, 3:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-much-power-can-stock-a-h22-motor-make/245701/62 "2009-07-27T03:14:44Z")

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> [@FS: Home Entertainment Center](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-home-entertainment-center/20887/7):
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> I will someday SBF/Rwd swap a civic. saw one in Worcestor and it was SIIICK!!

That has a Chevy motor. Its a little rough looking now- cracked hood and shit.

The orange one that was at LG last year is much nicer.

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**Author:** ![SlackJ94](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/slackj94/32/6325_2.png) [@SlackJ94](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SlackJ94)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2009, 5:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-much-power-can-stock-a-h22-motor-make/245701/63 "2009-07-27T05:15:22Z")

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[quote=“Cliff,post:4,topic:20906"”]

b series guys need not apply.

Mahle gold can get you huge power on a budget.

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Truth. The first thing to go on the motors is the ring lands. After that start worrying about the rods. The sleeves can handle pretty much whatever you throw at them. Never seen a stock sleeve give out. Most people replace them so they can run normal forged pistons.

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**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2009, 6:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-much-power-can-stock-a-h22-motor-make/245701/64 "2009-07-27T06:11:01Z")

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> [@Happy Birthday Stairs!!!!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/happy-birthday-stairs/20897/35):
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> Stock h22 motor is good for whatever power you wanna make. The question is how long do you want it to last? At 9psi you will make around 300whp and the motor will last forever, run 20psi, race gas and it will make close to 500, and run for a couple weeks

Whatever power? How about 9999999WHP?

Please be careful in giving PSI/HP ratio in such blanket statements. It’s misleading.

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**Author:** ![GermanPSI](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/germanpsi/32/6353_2.png) [@GermanPSI](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GermanPSI)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2009, 8:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-much-power-can-stock-a-h22-motor-make/245701/65 "2009-07-27T08:27:35Z")

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> [@god has special plans for yewwww](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/god-has-special-plans-for-yewwww/20907/18):
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> Whatever power? How about 9999999WHP?
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> Please be careful in giving PSI/HP ratio in such blanket statements. It’s misleading.

You would say that, do you really think I meant he could make a million whp when I said that? As far as the hp/psi ratio I know the Honda world, what I wrote is very close to what the motor will make. I’m sure you could guess what kinda power a vr4 would make with a paticular setup, same concept

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**Author:** ![Swifty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@Swifty](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Swifty)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2009, 8:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-much-power-can-stock-a-h22-motor-make/245701/66 "2009-07-27T08:35:31Z")

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dont get an h22.

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**Author:** ![GermanPSI](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/germanpsi/32/6353_2.png) [@GermanPSI](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GermanPSI)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2009, 9:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-much-power-can-stock-a-h22-motor-make/245701/67 "2009-07-27T09:11:10Z")

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> [@Happy Birthday Stairs!!!!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/happy-birthday-stairs/20897/44):
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> dont get an h22.

Exactly, more money to mod and in return your get a shitty tranny. Go with b series

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**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2009, 9:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-much-power-can-stock-a-h22-motor-make/245701/68 "2009-07-27T09:22:12Z")

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> [@F body guys...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/f-body-guys/20873/18):
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> :rofl I can take em down, but you will probably recieve alot of -rep from people on here lol

i will ban you if you take them down.

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**Author:** ![deadbeatrec](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deadbeatrec/32/6401_2.png) [@deadbeatrec](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deadbeatrec)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2009, 9:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-much-power-can-stock-a-h22-motor-make/245701/69 "2009-07-27T09:26:40Z")

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> [@Getting a new computer on the network????](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/getting-a-new-computer-on-the-network/20832/22):
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> Nothing is “cheap” if done right…

besides your gf. 🙂

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**Author:** ![94Gt5.0](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/94gt5.0/32/6377_2.png) [@94Gt5.0](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/94Gt5.0)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2009, 10:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-much-power-can-stock-a-h22-motor-make/245701/70 "2009-07-27T10:01:09Z")

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> [@Picked up another bimmer](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/picked-up-another-bimmer/20917/15):
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> besides your gf. 🙂

Giggedy

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**Author:** ![99FRC](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/99frc/32/6335_2.png) [@99FRC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/99FRC)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2009, 6:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-much-power-can-stock-a-h22-motor-make/245701/71 "2009-07-27T18:16:45Z")

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> [@Vacation Checklist?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/vacation-checklist/20898/19):
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> you guys forgot the little part of power=money. im still in collage and very broke as of now

If you are very broke you shouldn’t be modifying your car. Put what money you have into an account for upkeep on the car or w/e but just don’t spend what little money you have on your car. Not worth it. Your doing the right thing focusing on college, keep it that way.

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**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2009, 6:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-much-power-can-stock-a-h22-motor-make/245701/72 "2009-07-27T18:54:28Z")

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> [@Automobili Lamborghini!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/automobili-lamborghini/20865/43):
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> You would say that, do you really think I meant he could make a million whp when I said that?

I used an extreme # to make a point. It can be read as the motor can handle large amount of power or more than one could want. That’s a lot of assumptions for one and a lot of retards would take it as fact.

> [@Automobili Lamborghini!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/automobili-lamborghini/20865/43):
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> As far as the hp/psi ratio I know the Honda world, what I wrote is very close to what the motor will make.

Wouldn’t tune, turbo, supporting mods, etc… all have an affect on HP/PSI ratio?

> [@Automobili Lamborghini!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/automobili-lamborghini/20865/43):
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> I’m sure you could guess what kinda power a vr4 would make with a paticular setup, same concept

Sure given the **setup** which you didn’t mention. The 3/S motor (God, I forgot the code) has made anywhere from 300AWHP-650AWHP+ at at 1BAR. Big difference.

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**Author:** ![Cliff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b38774/32.png) [@Cliff](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cliff)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2009, 7:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-much-power-can-stock-a-h22-motor-make/245701/73 "2009-07-27T19:48:24Z")

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> [@callout: mid 14 sec cars.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/callout-mid-14-sec-cars/13801/46):
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> Exactly, more money to mod and in return your get a shitty tranny. Go with b series

How are they more money to mod? Theres nothing wrong with the transmissions either…

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**Author:** ![Eatonualive](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/eatonualive/32/6442_2.png) [@Eatonualive](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Eatonualive)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2009, 8:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-much-power-can-stock-a-h22-motor-make/245701/74 "2009-07-27T20:26:34Z")

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start off with a 97+ ex tranny get BISIMOTOS’ H2D swap, remove the balance shafts in the h22 and relocate the alt. to the rear b series location behind the motor…and do ur turbo…done! lol, i know thats easy to say but that would be the right way in my mind (provided u keep the stock longblock)

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**Author:** ![Eatonualive](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/eatonualive/32/6442_2.png) [@Eatonualive](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Eatonualive)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2009, 8:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-much-power-can-stock-a-h22-motor-make/245701/75 "2009-07-27T20:28:07Z")

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or if u really want an all motor reliable beast…then call up hasport and get their new J series V6 swaps…3.7L !!! aahhhhhhh!

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**Author:** ![GermanPSI](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/germanpsi/32/6353_2.png) [@GermanPSI](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GermanPSI)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2009, 8:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-much-power-can-stock-a-h22-motor-make/245701/76 "2009-07-27T20:46:22Z")

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> [@Spray-on condoms](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/spray-on-condoms/20937/18):
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> How are they more money to mod? Theres nothing wrong with the transmissions either…

IMO the trannys suck, I didn’t say you had to agree, if you like them that’s your thing I respect that. But for engine internals they are slightly more expensive and this is due to less people actually builidin h series and more building b

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**Author:** ![Cliff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b38774/32.png) [@Cliff](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cliff)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2009, 9:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-much-power-can-stock-a-h22-motor-make/245701/77 "2009-07-27T21:06:10Z")

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> [@1g dsm need help](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/1g-dsm-need-help/20846/17):
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> IMO the trannys suck, I didn’t say you had to agree, if you like them that’s your thing I respect that. But for engine internals they are slightly more expensive and this is due to less people actually builidin h series and more building b

…what internals on an H series are more expensive than b series?

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**Post date:** [July 27, 2009, 11:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-much-power-can-stock-a-h22-motor-make/245701/78 "2009-07-27T23:56:03Z")

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> [@On another topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/19417/354):
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> The 3/S motor (God, I forgot the code)

6G72 n00b :lol

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**Post date:** [July 28, 2009, 5:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-much-power-can-stock-a-h22-motor-make/245701/79 "2009-07-28T05:42:11Z")

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> [@callout: mid 14 sec cars.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/callout-mid-14-sec-cars/13801/46):
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> Exactly, more money to mod and in return your get a shitty tranny. Go with b series

Where did you find this information?

> [@Spray-on condoms](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/spray-on-condoms/20937/18):
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> How are they more money to mod? Theres nothing wrong with the transmissions either…

+1 Yea, you can’t buy a DC header and make power on a H22, but that is because it is good from the factory. If you have a B and a H next to each other, doing the same mods, when you came to the header and went with a DC (or any other off the shelf) header on the B, you wouldn’t need to replace the OEM piece on the H (thus SAVING you money). If you got into ‘real’ headers (RMF, Hytech, Bisi etc.) you’d be spending the about same on either motor.

> [@1g dsm need help](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/1g-dsm-need-help/20846/17):
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> IMO the trannys suck, I didn’t say you had to agree, if you like them that’s your thing I respect that. But for engine internals they are slightly more expensive and this is due to less people actually builidin h series and more building b

What proof do you have they suck? It might be your opinion, but you’re also spreading misinformation. And the internals being more expensive has nothing to do with ‘less’ people modding them. The B-Series was around well before the H. So people started working with them FAR sooner. When the H did come out many people did not want to leave the beaten path of the B-Series. It might have been more to build an H series 5-10 years ago, but not today.

> [@BOV placement](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bov-placement/20919/7):
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> …what internals on an H series are more expensive than b series?

+1 You could make the argument that you ‘need’ to re sleeve the H in order to use forged pistons. But with the mahle golds that are now proven to work in FRM, there is no need.

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**Author:** ![Swifty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@Swifty](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Swifty)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2009, 7:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-much-power-can-stock-a-h22-motor-make/245701/80 "2009-07-28T07:25:13Z")

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> [@Lucky Number Slevin movie question](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lucky-number-slevin-movie-question/20953/6):
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> It might have been more to build an H series 5-10 years ago, but not today.

yah, 6 years ago it sucked. And the cable trans does suck. just my own experience.

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