# How the Farm/Government operates.... **URL:** \ **Category:** PolitiSUCK\ **Created:** [July 24, 2009, 5:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-the-farm-government-operates/71001 "2009-07-24T05:15:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![slow84ta](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/slow84ta/32/7265_2.png) [@slow84ta](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/slow84ta)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2009, 8:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-the-farm-government-operates/71001/21 "2009-07-24T08:04:18Z")
> [@Penfold](#): > > It is sad that adults have to be taught free market ideas from a childrens story. It’s even sader that some “educated” poeple voted for him :banghead: ---
**Author:** ![MOBOOST4U](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f4b2a3/32.png) [@MOBOOST4U](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MOBOOST4U)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2009, 8:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-the-farm-government-operates/71001/22 "2009-07-24T08:09:49Z")
Im still jut blown away as to how we have gotten to this point. Its sad because who knows when it will change. ---
**Author:** ![LAFENGAS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/lafengas/32/7573_2.png) [@LAFENGAS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LAFENGAS)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2009, 8:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-the-farm-government-operates/71001/23 "2009-07-24T08:10:56Z")
> [@slow84ta](#): > > It’s even sa **d** der that some “educated” p **eo** ple voted for him :banghead: fixed. haha. ---
**Author:** ![slow84ta](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/slow84ta/32/7265_2.png) [@slow84ta](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/slow84ta)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2009, 8:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-the-farm-government-operates/71001/24 "2009-07-24T08:11:42Z")
> [@LAFENGAS](#): > > fixed. haha. I never said I was educated :mamoru: ---
**Author:** ![Zer0DazE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zer0daze/32/7624_2.png) [@Zer0DazE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zer0DazE)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2009, 8:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-the-farm-government-operates/71001/25 "2009-07-24T08:40:49Z")
> [@StrokedZ28](#): > > Yeah the stupid is definitely high in this thread. Where was the stupid? Was it the post about not being gang rapped, or the truth about our current situation? I know I call things I don’t like stupid all the time… even if they are true. ---
**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2009, 9:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-the-farm-government-operates/71001/26 "2009-07-24T09:16:31Z")
the economics professor one is an example of communism and not socialism :picard: the first one is good for illustrating how far right republicans view the world. It would be more realistic if at each stage the hen explained that she was going to make a ten figure salary while you get minimum wage. ---
**Author:** ![StrokedZ28](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/strokedz28/32/7592_2.png) [@StrokedZ28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/StrokedZ28)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2009, 9:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-the-farm-government-operates/71001/27 "2009-07-24T09:19:27Z")
> [@Zer0DazE](#): > > Where was the stupid? Was it the post about not being gang rapped, or the truth about our current situation? > > I know I call things I don’t like stupid all the time… even if they are true. Truth? This whole thread is based on a farm story that simplifies the points of view of the near sighted, its based off opinion. So yeah…stupid. ---
**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2009, 9:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-the-farm-government-operates/71001/28 "2009-07-24T09:42:43Z")
it’s stupid because it implies the business arrangement is an equal investment with an equal payoff. if this was really the case then probably all of the barn yard animals want in. ---
**Author:** ![LAFENGAS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/lafengas/32/7573_2.png) [@LAFENGAS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LAFENGAS)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2009, 9:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-the-farm-government-operates/71001/29 "2009-07-24T09:52:20Z")
_ **bottom line:** _ there are a lot of people who bust their ass, take intelligent risks, and actually EARN every penny they make…yet those at the bottom of the totem pole feel they **deserve** a cut. Our government wants to support this mentality. it’s pretty easy to look at the numbers and say. “Oh, this person earned $2M last year, they shouldn’t make that much, they should be taxed more so it’s more fair for those who earn less” ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2009, 9:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-the-farm-government-operates/71001/30 "2009-07-24T09:54:30Z")
there are a lot of people who are rich and handed successful businesses or family fortunes and do not EARN one penny they make…yet they feel they do not DESERVE to pay their fair share in taxes. ---
**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2009, 10:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-the-farm-government-operates/71001/31 "2009-07-24T10:00:07Z")
> [@LAFENGAS](#): > > _ **bottom line:** _ > > there are a lot of people who bust their ass, take intelligent risks, and actually EARN every penny they make…yet those at the bottom of the totem pole feel they **deserve** a cut. Our government wants to support this mentality. > > it’s pretty easy to look at the numbers and say. “Oh, this person earned $2M last year, they shouldn’t make that much, they should be taxed more so it’s more fair for those who earn less” no, you don’t get off this easily. If you post up next time you get a truckload of plasmas that you’re willing to equal split the profits (minus expenses) for those who want to help sell them then I’ll eat my words and your first email is true. if one already controls the wealth and power, why would they cut anybody else in? It’s so easy to be on top and yelling down “go get a job you bum” while I’m for a free market, I’m also for helping people climb over propping those who are at the top up. ---
**Author:** ![Zer0DazE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zer0daze/32/7624_2.png) [@Zer0DazE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zer0DazE)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2009, 10:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-the-farm-government-operates/71001/32 "2009-07-24T10:00:52Z")
> [@Joe](#): > > there are a lot of people who are rich and handed successful businesses or family fortunes and do not EARN one penny they make…yet they feel they do not DESERVE to pay their fair share in taxes. Ah… I see now. We are jealous that someone comes from money, and think they should share a larger percentage of it because they didn’t have to work for it. ---
**Author:** ![MOBOOST4U](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f4b2a3/32.png) [@MOBOOST4U](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MOBOOST4U)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2009, 10:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-the-farm-government-operates/71001/33 "2009-07-24T10:01:11Z")
> [@Joe](#): > > there are a lot of people who are rich and handed successful businesses or family fortunes and do not EARN one penny they make…yet they feel they do not DESERVE to pay their fair share in taxes. And which group has more members? ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2009, 10:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-the-farm-government-operates/71001/34 "2009-07-24T10:02:39Z")
Also, it is infinitely easier to turn $1M into $10M than it is to turn nothing into $1M. Most people would be very happy busting their sack to make $100k a year. If you have a million in decent conservative investments, you make $100k a year to sit on your ass. ---
**Author:** ![LAFENGAS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/lafengas/32/7573_2.png) [@LAFENGAS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LAFENGAS)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2009, 10:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-the-farm-government-operates/71001/35 "2009-07-24T10:02:43Z")
This reminds me specifically of what happened to me personally several years ago. I had earned about $22K in O.T. one year at my job. Because of that additional $22K, it placed me into a higher tax bracket. I don’t recall the exact numbers off-hand, but as a result I basically busted my ass and could have had the same amount of money in pocket if I would have worked 200hrs less of O.T. That’s 200hrs of free, personal time i wish i had back. Did i bust my ass the next year for overtime? Hell no. ---
**Author:** ![LAFENGAS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/lafengas/32/7573_2.png) [@LAFENGAS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LAFENGAS)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2009, 10:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-the-farm-government-operates/71001/36 "2009-07-24T10:05:08Z")
> [@theblue](#): > > no, you don’t get off this easily. If you post up next time you get a truckload of plasmas that you’re willing to equal split the profits (minus expenses) for those who want to help sell them then I’ll eat my words and your first email is true. so what your saying is that if I buy this truck load of plasma’s… i would split the profits evenly with the people who sell them? correct? ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2009, 10:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-the-farm-government-operates/71001/37 "2009-07-24T10:05:21Z")
I LOVE how the pinkos come into this thread and nit pick what has been said but you know deep down they just want to scream “I LOVE SOCIALISM/COMMUNISM”. It really is hilarious that they think it is not painfully obvious. They remind me of my 3 year old that gets caught red handed and tries to bs her way out of it. Why don’t just admit it for Christ’s sakes? You guys are hilarious. Say it loud and say it proud “I am a socialist!” You obviously feel guilty for believing that is why you make pathetic efforts to hide it. Hilarious. Oh and Stoogedz28, Nice sig. Barry wouldn’t know liberty if it grabbed him by his big ears. Another hilarity. ---
**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2009, 10:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-the-farm-government-operates/71001/38 "2009-07-24T10:08:48Z")
> [@LAFENGAS](#): > > so what your saying is that if I buy this truck load of plasma’s… i would split the profits evenly with the people who sell them? correct? Minus expenses such as buying them, storing them, shipping them. Obviously this would greatly cut into your profit margin. This is what you need to do to live your up to your posted email example. If I was in your shoes, I’d be doing the same thing you’re doing - well except for posting that email. BED - I love your classic “if they don’t agree with the far right then label them communist/socialist”. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2009, 10:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-the-farm-government-operates/71001/39 "2009-07-24T10:13:02Z")
> [@Joe](#): > > there are a lot of people who are rich and handed successful businesses or family fortunes and do not EARN one penny they make…yet they feel they do not DESERVE to pay their fair share in taxes. So what if they are handed the business. The fact remains that their family worked hard to grow that business and it they are entitled to hand it down to who ever they want. Or are you against inheritance too? ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2009, 10:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-the-farm-government-operates/71001/40 "2009-07-24T10:17:52Z")
I was making the point that the self made rich are rarely the ones who bitch about taxes. They’ve seen the other side and can relate, and appreciate how much better off they are, even if it means being in a higher tax bracket. The ones who bitch about them usually come from family money and never had to do the grunt work. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-the-farm-government-operates/71001.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-the-farm-government-operates/71001.md?page=3)