# how to check if a gun is stolen or been involved in crime?

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**Created:** [December 5, 2012, 10:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-to-check-if-a-gun-is-stolen-or-been-involved-in-crime/265671 "2012-12-05T10:06:28Z")\
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**Author:** ![pitman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4da419/32.png) [@pitman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/pitman)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2012, 2:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-to-check-if-a-gun-is-stolen-or-been-involved-in-crime/265671/9 "2012-12-05T14:57:36Z")

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> [@no casino for Buffalo.....](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/no-casino-for-buffalo/51202/3):
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> im allowed to sell guns that ive bought, used for a while and then sold?
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> and idk damirs friend is a peace keeper or some shit and he said something wasnt right with it, idk exactly what the issue was but I just returned his money and that was that.
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> not gonna go through all the trouble to call the ATF lol, I just wanna know how most people say on wantad buy guns or if they just take the sellers word for it not being hot.

[http://www.freebillofsaleform.org/gun.html](http://www.freebillofsaleform.org/gun.html)

you need to have a form 4473 from atf if you buy a new gun. but if its used you should have them fill out something similar. at the least you want a bill of sale and write in the bill of sale that the owner knows that this gun isnt stolen or used in any crimes. that should protect you

if you want to avoid the atf dont buy and sell guns. thats what they do. yes you have the right to but… they have all this extra rules and regulations you have to follow if you want to be perfect.

also if your store buys and sells guns then some guy walks in with a gun you will not know his intentions until he says what they are. he will either say i want to sell/pawn this or he will say give me all your money. so if you dont trade guns you will avoid this mistake

also the serial # has more info than you would think. if it has been transported from state to state without a licenced ffl saying it was shipped legally it was involved in a crime. so a # could show if it was in a crime

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