# How to kill Financial Regulatory Reform **URL:** \ **Category:** PolitiSUCK\ **Created:** [February 2, 2010, 6:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-to-kill-financial-regulatory-reform/78849 "2010-02-02T06:45:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 6:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-to-kill-financial-regulatory-reform/78849/1 "2010-02-02T06:45:23Z")
> **[Frank Luntz Pens Memo To Kill Financial Regulatory Reform](https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/01/frank-luntz-pens-memo-to_n_444332.html)** > > Nine months after he penned a memo laying out the arguments for h... Memo has been issued by Frank Luntz, the same guy who came up with the playbook on how to turn the public against health care reform. Expect to hear a whole lot more of these talking points coming up. A lot more of the same. “The status quo is not an option” talking points when arguing FOR the status quo. Hopefully the American public won’t be so stupid this time, but I wouldn’t count on it. :rolljerk: ---
**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 6:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-to-kill-financial-regulatory-reform/78849/2 "2010-02-02T06:47:39Z")
this reminds me of the BBC article that I just posted in the healthcare thread. “It’s like a French Revolution in reverse in which the workers come pouring down the street screaming more power to the aristocracy.” ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 6:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-to-kill-financial-regulatory-reform/78849/3 "2010-02-02T06:51:16Z")
Yep. There’s a reason the rest of the industrialized world mocks the average American as a naive, fat redneck with no worldly knowledge. ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 6:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-to-kill-financial-regulatory-reform/78849/4 "2010-02-02T06:56:14Z")
lol that’s goddam Orwellian. ![http://newsgrist.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c66f153ef01157215f760970b-500wi](http://newsgrist.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c66f153ef01157215f760970b-500wi) What was the title of the memo? “Ignorance is Strength”? ---
**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 6:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-to-kill-financial-regulatory-reform/78849/5 "2010-02-02T06:59:46Z")
I still need to see the British documentary where this guy went around blue collar areas of the US and tried to get poor people to explain why they voted for bush when basically none of his stated policy stood to benefit them. ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 7:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-to-kill-financial-regulatory-reform/78849/6 "2010-02-02T07:03:45Z")
Patriotism. It’s hard to understand policy, it’s easy to understand “Git them sand-niggers!” ---
**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 7:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-to-kill-financial-regulatory-reform/78849/7 "2010-02-02T07:06:32Z")
the other theory is that the poor people felt like if they voted with the wealthy that they were part of the club. It came down to foolish pride. ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 7:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-to-kill-financial-regulatory-reform/78849/8 "2010-02-02T07:11:59Z")
It’s linked in the original but here’s the same guy’s memo about health care. Look familiar? [http://www.pnhp.org/news/2009/may/frank\_luntzs\_the\_l.php](http://www.pnhp.org/news/2009/may/frank_luntzs_the_l.php) ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2010, 5:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-to-kill-financial-regulatory-reform/78849/9 "2010-02-03T05:33:17Z")
> [@Joe"](#): > > [Frank Luntz Pens Memo To Kill Financial Regulatory Reform | HuffPost Latest News](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/01/frank-luntz-pens-memo-to_n_444332.html) > Memo has been issued by Frank Luntz, the same guy who came up with the playbook on how to turn the public against health care reform. > [@Joe](#): > > It’s linked in the original but here’s the same guy’s memo about health care. Look familiar? > [Frank Luntz's "The Language of Healthcare 2009" | Physicians for a National Health Program](http://www.pnhp.org/news/2009/may/frank_luntzs_the_l.php) So I was thinking about this a bit last night, trying to figure out why I didn’t necessarily think Luntz is a big bag for writing this stuff. Turns out I don’t fault him for what amounts to good politics. These spin doctoring essays are a reflection on us as voters and how stupid we are. That we can be convinced that change is the same and inaction is true change is disturbing and as I mentioned straight out of Orwell’s 1984. When politicians can convince us that up is down and war is peace and inaction is change then all hope is lost. I’m not pointing fingers at the right. I’m sure the same documents exist for the left. If there’s anything that’s bipartisan in this country it’s “stupid.” ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2010, 5:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-to-kill-financial-regulatory-reform/78849/10 "2010-02-03T05:59:55Z")
Well said Fry. ---
**Author:** ![Avatar](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/avatar/32/5076_2.png) [@Avatar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Avatar)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2010, 6:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-to-kill-financial-regulatory-reform/78849/11 "2010-02-03T06:39:18Z")
How to kill financial reform: 1. SCOTUS rules that corporations have unlimited ability for campaign contributions, err… free speech. 2. Pay bankers huge bonuses despite populist disgust. 3. Attempt to pacify populous with measured and temporary cuts and other political theater. 4. Volker, and others, step back from their early (and right) support of glass-steagall type restrictions and other strong reforms. 5. ??? 6. Profit $$$