# hows your bolt in roll bar? v. flattened Mustang
**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hows-your-bolt-in-roll-bar-v-flattened-mustang/75429
**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive
**Created:** [October 28, 2009, 6:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hows-your-bolt-in-roll-bar-v-flattened-mustang/75429 "2009-10-28T06:32:33Z")
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### Author:  [@juicedz4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/juicedz4)
#### Post date: [October 28, 2009, 6:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hows-your-bolt-in-roll-bar-v-flattened-mustang/75429/1 "2009-10-28T06:32:33Z")
This has been floating around, not sure if its a repost here or not.
> **[Mustang Cover Boy Tries To Corner, Flips Over Tire Wall](https://jalopnik.com/5390934/mustang-cover-boy-tries-to-corner-flips-over-tire-wall?skyline=true&s=x)**
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> The Hallett/CarFX project Mustang — featured on the December '09 cover of 5.0 Mustang — dramatically flipped over a tire wall at Hallet Circuit in Oklahoma this weekend, ending up on its roof. Actiongasmic crash gallery below.
Im guessing driver and passenger both needed some clean shorts after this. Apparently both were unharmed, somehow.
Check out the cage poking through the floor, oops.
Dan
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### Author:  [@dreid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dreid)
#### Post date: [October 28, 2009, 6:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hows-your-bolt-in-roll-bar-v-flattened-mustang/75429/2 "2009-10-28T06:35:48Z")
CAR FX was just featured in this months 5.0 mag for building 3 matching stangs. this is one of them. Imma have to read up on it when I take a shit at home later
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### Author:  [@38stang](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/38stang)
#### Post date: [October 28, 2009, 6:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hows-your-bolt-in-roll-bar-v-flattened-mustang/75429/3 "2009-10-28T06:51:57Z")
yikes…
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### Author:  [@Spam16v](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Spam16v)
#### Post date: [October 28, 2009, 7:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hows-your-bolt-in-roll-bar-v-flattened-mustang/75429/4 "2009-10-28T07:14:06Z")
but it was bolted to the floor, it had to be safe… just a 4pt hoop? probably just there for the harness bar requirement with pass through seats. far from rollover safe, 6 point bolt in may have fair’d better, but still not going handle being dropped directly onto the roof well.
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### Author:  [@glitch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/glitch)
#### Post date: [October 28, 2009, 7:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hows-your-bolt-in-roll-bar-v-flattened-mustang/75429/5 "2009-10-28T07:18:36Z")
Another reason not to drive a Mustang?
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### Author:  [@93gspeccivic](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/93gspeccivic)
#### Post date: [October 28, 2009, 7:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hows-your-bolt-in-roll-bar-v-flattened-mustang/75429/6 "2009-10-28T07:23:28Z")
> [@glitch](#):
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> Another reason not to drive a Mustang?
+1
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### Author:  [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)
#### Post date: [October 28, 2009, 7:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hows-your-bolt-in-roll-bar-v-flattened-mustang/75429/7 "2009-10-28T07:34:24Z")
> [@glitch](#):
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> Another reason not to drive a Mustang?
Yeah, because a civic with a bolt in would have done so much better.
Well, wait, it probably wouldn’t have been going fast enough to flip so maybe it would have been better. 🙂
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### Author:  [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)
#### Post date: [October 28, 2009, 7:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hows-your-bolt-in-roll-bar-v-flattened-mustang/75429/8 "2009-10-28T07:39:31Z")
either way you slice it, that’s scary.
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### Author:  [@juicedz4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/juicedz4)
#### Post date: [October 28, 2009, 7:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hows-your-bolt-in-roll-bar-v-flattened-mustang/75429/9 "2009-10-28T07:42:45Z")
A civic probably would have a much better chance since it wouldnt weigh 3800lbs +.
The real issue is the way that most of the bolt in cages only tie into the floor and do not include any part of the rocker boxes. Im guessing a properly done weld in hoop would have done alot more good that this one.
I also wonder if they were using back up plates at all.
Dan
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### Author:  [@Muckman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Muckman)
#### Post date: [October 28, 2009, 7:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hows-your-bolt-in-roll-bar-v-flattened-mustang/75429/10 "2009-10-28T07:43:26Z")
I am shocked they werent crushed with the harness holding them in place.
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### Author:  [@POOPRA](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/POOPRA)
#### Post date: [October 28, 2009, 7:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hows-your-bolt-in-roll-bar-v-flattened-mustang/75429/11 "2009-10-28T07:49:26Z")
Was this just at a lapping day? Obviously no reinforcement plates were used.
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### Author:  [@OfficerK](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OfficerK)
#### Post date: [October 28, 2009, 7:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hows-your-bolt-in-roll-bar-v-flattened-mustang/75429/12 "2009-10-28T07:58:07Z")
If they were driving a convertible viper with an aftermarket hardtop they would have been just fine
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### Author:  [@glitch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/glitch)
#### Post date: [October 28, 2009, 8:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hows-your-bolt-in-roll-bar-v-flattened-mustang/75429/13 "2009-10-28T08:26:22Z")
LOL, they claimed to have shaved off enough weight to bring down that Stang to 3,000lbs too.
> The most aggressive performer of the three wears the lowest number, No. 12. Will explained the Car FX plan of attack. "Instead of building a street car that can go out there and race on the track, we built a track car that we could make street legal. Car FX stripped car No. 12 of most of its interior. It replaced the rear glass and door glass with Plexiglas to subtract more weight. The vehicle barely tips the scales at 3,000 pounds. “We shaved weight everywhere we possibly could,” Will said.
> [http://www.mustang50magazine.com/featuredvehicles/m5lp\_0912\_2010\_mustang\_gt\_car\_fx/index.html](http://www.mustang50magazine.com/featuredvehicles/m5lp_0912_2010_mustang_gt_car_fx/index.html)
> Nice “track car”, idiots. Next time put more thought into a roll cage.
> [@OfficerK](#):
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> If they were driving a convertible viper with an aftermarket hardtop they would have been just fine
LOL @ tracking a vert without a bar/cage and a vert Viper prob would have been better off.
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### Author:  [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)
#### Post date: [October 28, 2009, 8:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hows-your-bolt-in-roll-bar-v-flattened-mustang/75429/14 "2009-10-28T08:40:55Z")
> [@Muckman](#):
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> I am shocked they werent crushed with the harness holding them in place.
+1. That’s the reason I don’t have a harness in my street car for track days. No way I want my head acting as the roll bar.
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### Author:  [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)
#### Post date: [October 28, 2009, 8:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hows-your-bolt-in-roll-bar-v-flattened-mustang/75429/15 "2009-10-28T08:50:57Z")
Holy crap, I assumed it was a vert but then I clicked the link! WTF? Ford might want to examine that car. lol
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### Author:  [@Harvey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Harvey)
#### Post date: [October 28, 2009, 9:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hows-your-bolt-in-roll-bar-v-flattened-mustang/75429/16 "2009-10-28T09:51:44Z")
> [@juicedz4](#):
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> The real issue is
that
> [@POOPRA](#):
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> Obviously no reinforcement plates were used.
And the fact that the track built a tire ramp instead of a tire wall.
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### Author:  [@Studderin](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Studderin)
#### Post date: [October 28, 2009, 2:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hows-your-bolt-in-roll-bar-v-flattened-mustang/75429/17 "2009-10-28T14:22:20Z")
cold welds.
what? a rollbar tubing and on a 6x6 .125 plate is stronger then a unibody .050 sheetmetal car? whodatunk
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### Author:  [@ldp82](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ldp82)
#### Post date: [October 28, 2009, 4:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hows-your-bolt-in-roll-bar-v-flattened-mustang/75429/18 "2009-10-28T16:44:17Z")
that’s is pretty scary. A bolt in with plates done right can work very well, so what the hell were they thinking when they built this?
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### Author:  [@Harvey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Harvey)
#### Post date: [October 28, 2009, 5:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hows-your-bolt-in-roll-bar-v-flattened-mustang/75429/19 "2009-10-28T17:14:08Z")
I think people can get crazy with weight reduction. My guess is that instead of using backing plates that would weight an extra 5 lbs total, they made it a ‘race car’. You can see one of the tubes coming through the floor in the upside down pic.
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### Author:  [@Muckman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Muckman)
#### Post date: [October 28, 2009, 5:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hows-your-bolt-in-roll-bar-v-flattened-mustang/75429/20 "2009-10-28T17:23:53Z")
I see plates on those tubes.
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