# HVAC people, step in

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**Created:** [October 24, 2008, 9:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hvac-people-step-in/57008 "2008-10-24T09:42:54Z")\
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**Author:** ![Eazy716](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/eazy716/32/7443_2.png) [@Eazy716](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Eazy716)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2008, 9:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hvac-people-step-in/57008/1 "2008-10-24T09:42:54Z")

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long story short…

the past 2 years I have been heating my garage with a wood burning stove and a blower, which was in the garage when I bought the house.  
This summer I removed the wood stove, and I’m now in need of a way to heat my garage.

Here in lies the issue…all the work I do is fiberglass/body filler/dusty. So I don’t want something with an open flame that can combust or something that will cause carbon monoxide.

Anyone have any ideas? Ideally I would like one of the Modine Hot Dawg heaters, but $1000 just isn’t in the cards right now.

**things to note:** natural gas line already plummed to the garage, the structure is 22’x22’ and fully insulated walls and ceiling covered by OSB.

any input is appreciated.

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**Author:** ![66impalass](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/66impalass/32/7429_2.png) [@66impalass](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/66impalass)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2008, 10:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hvac-people-step-in/57008/2 "2008-10-24T10:04:52Z")

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do you have a 240 line to the garage, the Qmark BRH series would work, and about $150, if you do

EDIT: this is where most new construction builds buy there required heaters from, [http://www.qmarkmep.com/](http://www.qmarkmep.com/)

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**Author:** ![Eazy716](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/eazy716/32/7443_2.png) [@Eazy716](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Eazy716)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2008, 10:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hvac-people-step-in/57008/3 "2008-10-24T10:37:32Z")

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thanks for the link!!

would one of those heat a garage well? i cant seem to find BTU rating, etc. Also do you know if its sealed motor?

I had a 240, but my electrician took it out for some reason…but easy enough to have him put it back in.

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**Author:** ![dreid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dreid/32/7388_2.png) [@dreid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dreid)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2008, 11:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hvac-people-step-in/57008/4 "2008-10-24T11:25:23Z")

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OT, why did you get rid of the wood stove?? Im looking to get a wood stove this winter but I have a 4 car garage. I have no idea of the dims

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**Author:** ![Eazy716](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/eazy716/32/7443_2.png) [@Eazy716](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Eazy716)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2008, 11:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hvac-people-step-in/57008/5 "2008-10-24T11:35:58Z")

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i got rid of it for a few reasons. for starters, the grates were melted down, and were unable to be replaced. also, it would take a good hour or two, to get a solid fire going. Since I go out there after 5pm, i would have roughly 4 hours to work, 2 of which were getting the fire going. Then while it’s going, tending to the fire is a PITA, and having to order wood every year was a PITA as well. Not to mention the potential hazard of open flame and the chemicals I use.

just all around a total hassle. I do kinda regret getting rid of it now, but im sure once I find a good source of heat in a different platform i’ll be happy.

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**Author:** ![Eazy716](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/eazy716/32/7443_2.png) [@Eazy716](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Eazy716)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2008, 11:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hvac-people-step-in/57008/6 "2008-10-24T11:36:27Z")

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but I will say, once it got going, i could get the garage upto a solid 90 degrees even with drafts, lol.

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**Author:** ![Gus](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gus/32/5112_2.png) [@Gus](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gus)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2008, 11:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hvac-people-step-in/57008/7 "2008-10-24T11:40:13Z")

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> [@Eazy716](#):
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> but I will say, once it got going, i could get the garage upto a solid 90 degrees even with drafts, lol.

:tup: my dad heats his whole house with a wood burner

on topic: I use propane with 2 heater elements on the top…  
not sure if you want to go that route… pita to refill and costly if you’re out working a lot.

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**Author:** ![Eazy716](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/eazy716/32/7443_2.png) [@Eazy716](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Eazy716)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2008, 11:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hvac-people-step-in/57008/8 "2008-10-24T11:42:10Z")

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i thought about that, but have been skeptical about using a tank and open elements with the chemicals.

thats really my biggest concern is the chemicals. the fiberglass and fillers tend to build fumes quick and quite strong

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**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2008, 11:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hvac-people-step-in/57008/9 "2008-10-24T11:43:30Z")

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> [@Eazy716"](#):
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> **things to note:** natural gas line already plummed to the garage, the structure is 22’x22’ and fully insulated walls and ceiling covered by OSB.
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> any input is appreciated.

I spent ~3 months looking into the best means of garage heat.

I deal with alot of sawdust, sanding dust, gas, n2o, etc…

I hate to say it but the Hawt Dawg with the external intake / exhaust kit was the absolute best option.

Next best IMO is radiant IR, but that also needs an external exhaust which I found made them more expensive. And they are not all sealed combustion chambers.

IIRC the 36k btu hotdawg was more like $700, not $1k, fwiw.

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**Author:** ![Gus](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gus/32/5112_2.png) [@Gus](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gus)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2008, 11:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hvac-people-step-in/57008/10 "2008-10-24T11:44:10Z")

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yeah… all that stuff might float into the open element also…

hmm

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**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2008, 11:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hvac-people-step-in/57008/11 "2008-10-24T11:47:18Z")

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> [@Gus](#):
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> yeah… all that stuff might float into the open element also…
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> hmm

yup. can’t have open element or combustion.

you don’t want inside intake for the same reasons; also inside intake means it CAN literally suck the O2 out of the garage over the course of a few hours.

You don’t want inside exhaust because the byproduct of combustion is wator vapor. Hello surface rust. Not to mention the CO and other nox emissions.

:meh:

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**Author:** ![Eazy716](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/eazy716/32/7443_2.png) [@Eazy716](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Eazy716)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2008, 11:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hvac-people-step-in/57008/12 "2008-10-24T11:59:29Z")

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ya, I had a feeling that was going to be the only answer. ☹

that certainly sucks.

external exhaust/intake isnt a problem…it’s putting together the funds to get a hot dawg at the moment. just bought a new 50" plasma wed. and with christmas coming close it’s gonna take a chunk out of my savings.

and above and beyond that, trying to explain to the wife why i need this heater so bad, lol. she never understands when it comes to buying things for the garage…only the house :banghead:

well, guess i may have to make a snky purchase

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**Author:** ![dreid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dreid/32/7388_2.png) [@dreid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dreid)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2008, 12:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hvac-people-step-in/57008/13 "2008-10-24T12:37:28Z")

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i will more than likely be ok with a wood stove. Nick knows, my garage is huge. i could set the stove up in 1 corner on the other side of the garage and still cut wood and do glass work on the other.

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**Author:** ![Eazy716](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/eazy716/32/7443_2.png) [@Eazy716](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Eazy716)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2008, 12:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hvac-people-step-in/57008/14 "2008-10-24T12:45:38Z")

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ya, i glassed in my garage for 2 years even with the stove door open(stupid, lol) and never had an issue. but there were so many little issues with the one i had, i just decided id rather not work out there than deal with it another year.

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**Author:** ![dreid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dreid/32/7388_2.png) [@dreid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dreid)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2008, 1:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hvac-people-step-in/57008/15 "2008-10-24T13:15:44Z")

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did you have any issues with dry air??? I hear you can keep a container of water on the stove to stop that?

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**Author:** ![Eazy716](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/eazy716/32/7443_2.png) [@Eazy716](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Eazy716)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2008, 1:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hvac-people-step-in/57008/16 "2008-10-24T13:23:26Z")

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ya, it would definately get real dry in the garage. sometimes even causing my nose to bleed.

i eventually started using the old water trick and it works well. still a bit dry, but 100% improvement. especially in the winter, i would just grab a few handfulls of snow and toss it in the pot so you dont have to go inside to get the water.

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**Author:** ![Eazy716](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/eazy716/32/7443_2.png) [@Eazy716](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Eazy716)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2008, 1:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hvac-people-step-in/57008/17 "2008-10-24T13:26:05Z")

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also…if you need, i still have the blower with thermostat that is of no use to me.

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**Author:** ![Eazy716](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/eazy716/32/7443_2.png) [@Eazy716](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Eazy716)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2008, 12:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hvac-people-step-in/57008/18 "2008-11-13T12:23:19Z")

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bump

anyone have a hookup for Modine heaters? More specifically the Hot Dawg HDS-45?

best i’ve found online is $899 shipped.
