# Hybrid/pittspeed Dyno Day Today ! ! ! **URL:** \ **Category:** PittSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [July 2, 2005, 4:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hybrid-pittspeed-dyno-day-today/175333 "2005-07-02T04:29:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2005, 4:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hybrid-pittspeed-dyno-day-today/175333/61 "2005-07-07T16:38:48Z")
> [@whoshonda](#): > > wow I didnt know that… thats some $$$!! > > It doesnt really make sense to me why a dynojet costs as much as it does when you cannot really set it up to replicate the load you see on the street. > > Two 3,000 lb rollers on the 248s is gonna be giving you more load then you will see on the street. (Unless you got a couple heifers in the car) I guess if anything it forces you to do a safe/conservative tune for customers who dont want their shit to blow. > > Im gonna take mine down and find where it likes the A:F and then do some logs on the street and probably have to set it back to the A:F i found that it liked on the dyno. af is half the battle timing is where you need to do the tuning ---
**Author:** ![whoshonda](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/whoshonda/32/5961_2.png) [@whoshonda](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/whoshonda)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2005, 7:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hybrid-pittspeed-dyno-day-today/175333/62 "2005-07-08T07:44:00Z")
yes but thats not gonna change when you get off of the dyno like the A:F will, I was just saying that if you want to be as accurately tuned on the street as you were on the dyno, your gonna have to find where it makes the best power a:f wise on the dyno, then take it back out on the street and match it to where it performed best on the dyno because most likely its going to be off. Once u start getting into aftermarket cams, cam timing can be as important as ignition timing. For ex. my car will drop or gain 1 full point in a:f just from giving or taking away 1 degree of overlap w/ the exhaust cam. So each is more like 1/3 of the battle! (cam, ignition, and fuel) ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2005, 8:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hybrid-pittspeed-dyno-day-today/175333/63 "2005-07-08T08:59:42Z")
that is why you need a system with a target AF ratio built in not some half ass free garbage ---
**Author:** ![fmfkid250](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fmfkid250/32/5973_2.png) [@fmfkid250](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fmfkid250)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2005, 9:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hybrid-pittspeed-dyno-day-today/175333/64 "2005-07-08T09:27:00Z")
> [@BoostedITR41](#): > > that is why you need a system with a target AF ratio built in not some half ass free garbage my car is tuned with half ass free garbage and it runs ok!!! ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2005, 10:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hybrid-pittspeed-dyno-day-today/175333/65 "2005-07-08T10:08:43Z")
> [@fmfkid250](#): > > my car is tuned with half ass free garbage and it runs ok!!! yeah while it runs. you motor isn’t making enough power to break parts like it does joe so obviously somewhere else is the issue. I know steve knows what he is doin so I would say the system sucks ---
**Author:** ![Pewter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pewter/32/5936_2.png) [@Pewter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pewter)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2005, 10:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hybrid-pittspeed-dyno-day-today/175333/66 "2005-07-08T10:24:44Z")
> [@BoostedITR41](#): > > yeah while it runs. you motor isn’t making enough power to break parts like it does joe so obviously somewhere else is the issue. I know steve knows what he is doin so I would say the system sucks e.t.\>hp! ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2005, 10:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hybrid-pittspeed-dyno-day-today/175333/67 "2005-07-08T10:26:23Z")
> [@PewterSS](#): > > e.t.\>hp! running reliably\>broke or unreliable ---
**Author:** ![whitey](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/whitey/32/5911_2.png) [@whitey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/whitey)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2005, 11:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hybrid-pittspeed-dyno-day-today/175333/68 "2005-07-08T11:52:00Z")
> [@BoostedITR41](#): > > yeah while it runs. you motor isn’t making enough power to break parts like it does joe so obviously somewhere else is the issue. I know steve knows what he is doin so I would say the system sucks you just dig yourself into bigger and bigger holes… his car runs better then yours and you are knocking it? doesn’t make sense to me ---
**Author:** ![berad](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/berad/32/5953_2.png) [@berad](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/berad)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2005, 11:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hybrid-pittspeed-dyno-day-today/175333/69 "2005-07-08T11:55:51Z")
Race Race Race ---
**Author:** ![77rednecktruck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/77rednecktruck/32/5966_2.png) [@77rednecktruck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/77rednecktruck)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2005, 11:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hybrid-pittspeed-dyno-day-today/175333/70 "2005-07-08T11:59:06Z")
> [@Be\_Rad](#): > > Race Race Race x2 ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2005, 11:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hybrid-pittspeed-dyno-day-today/175333/71 "2005-07-08T11:59:57Z")
> [@whitey](#): > > you just dig yourself into bigger and bigger holes… his car runs better then yours and you are knocking it? doesn’t make sense to me not knocking the car or how it runs at the track. I am knocking the system which he tunes with. how many cars runnin hondata around here have blown up? erics melted a piston because of a bad injector but never because of the tuning of the system. period point blank is hondata, EMS, power fc\>chrome, uberdata ---
**Author:** ![fmfkid250](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fmfkid250/32/5973_2.png) [@fmfkid250](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fmfkid250)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2005, 9:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hybrid-pittspeed-dyno-day-today/175333/72 "2005-07-08T21:55:25Z")
the 1st motor i broke a rod, because i was going like 140 on 43 and it happend, my second motor spun a rod bearing, because i was revn my shit real real hard, this motor still runs i have now. for now, it doesent matter what i tune with, or what i drove or how bullit proof it acually is i will break it, its not like i go out 1nce a week and crush my car everytime i get in it to drive to work ect. i beat the living shit out of it, and people think this is dumb but i love going fast and i dident put it together to look at it, once i get a “built” motor together and run “real” power, i geuss we will not truely see if this shit acually works, steves car should be in the 11’s on a chilled night too… honda is better then chrome no doubt, but the name of the game is going fast with the least amount of money, ---
**Author:** ![1320](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/1320/32/5949_2.png) [@1320](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/1320)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2005, 7:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hybrid-pittspeed-dyno-day-today/175333/73 "2005-07-09T07:46:57Z")
> [@whitey](#): > > you just dig yourself into bigger and bigger holes… his car runs better then yours and you are knocking it? doesn’t make sense to me i wouldnt say that… FMF’s car is faster. BUT its in a gutted out hatch with lexan windows. Sammys car made more power with a smoother powerband. (according to the dyno sheets i saw anyways) ---
**Author:** ![imported\_gearhead](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/imported_gearhead/32/5957_2.png) [@imported\_gearhead](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_gearhead)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2005, 9:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hybrid-pittspeed-dyno-day-today/175333/74 "2005-07-09T09:53:09Z")
> [@BoostedITR41](#): > > period point blank is hondata, EMS, power fc\>chrome, uberdata …if they do essentially the same exact thing, I see no point spending the extra money for big names. that leads to PewterSS’s comment: “e.t.\>hp” joe goes mid/high 11’s on a 260hp motor. So far JP has gone similar numbers on a ““1000hp”” motor. and ya, you can argue power to weight…but in the end, one car is faster than the other…and if the faster car is doing it on less hp/tq, why spend the mad money?? … mod smarter. ---
**Author:** ![bgblockelcamino](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bgblockelcamino/32/5997_2.png) [@bgblockelcamino](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bgblockelcamino)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2005, 10:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hybrid-pittspeed-dyno-day-today/175333/75 "2005-07-09T10:37:29Z")
> [@gearhead](#): > > …and if the faster car is doing it on less hp/tq, why spend the mad money?? … mod smarter. Truth ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2005, 10:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hybrid-pittspeed-dyno-day-today/175333/76 "2005-07-09T10:58:24Z")
> [@gearhead](#): > > …if they do essentially the same exact thing, I see no point spending the extra money for big names. > > that leads to PewterSS’s comment: “e.t.\>hp” > > joe goes mid/high 11’s on a 260hp motor. So far JP has gone similar numbers on a ““1000hp”” motor. and ya, you can argue power to weight…but in the end, one car is faster than the other…and if the faster car is doing it on less hp/tq, why spend the mad money?? … mod smarter. how is it modding smarter when in the end you go through 4-5 motors? ---
**Author:** ![fmfkid250](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fmfkid250/32/5973_2.png) [@fmfkid250](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fmfkid250)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2005, 11:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hybrid-pittspeed-dyno-day-today/175333/77 "2005-07-09T11:28:42Z")
> [@BoostedITR41](#): > > how is it modding smarter when in the end you go through 4-5 motors? come on sam, 2 motors!!! for 200 bucks a pop, and 4 hours worth of work and beating the shit out of it at every event is way to go, ---
**Author:** ![starboy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/starboy/32/5985_2.png) [@starboy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/starboy)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2005, 11:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hybrid-pittspeed-dyno-day-today/175333/78 "2005-07-09T11:31:46Z")
> [@fmfkid250](#): > > 2 motors!!! for 200 bucks a pop, and 4 hours worth of work > , got a point there ---
**Author:** ![whoshonda](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/whoshonda/32/5961_2.png) [@whoshonda](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/whoshonda)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2005, 11:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hybrid-pittspeed-dyno-day-today/175333/79 "2005-07-09T11:33:55Z")
> [@BoostedITR41](#): > > that is why you need a system with a target AF ratio built in not some half ass free garbage Crome is free and has target A:F ratio! and… its DIY, like K-pro is. We have k-pro so its not like im anti-hondata but i like the DIY feature. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2005, 11:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hybrid-pittspeed-dyno-day-today/175333/80 "2005-07-09T11:40:11Z")
> [@fmfkid250](#): > > come on sam, 2 motors!!! > > for 200 bucks a pop, and 4 hours worth of work > > and beating the shit out of it at every event is way to go, exactly you just paid in motors what I paid for hondata with every available option, 3 bar map, and a P28 [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hybrid-pittspeed-dyno-day-today/175333.md?page=3) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hybrid-pittspeed-dyno-day-today/175333.md?page=5)