# Hydrogen Powered Equinox... I have one!! \*\*PICS\*\*
**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hydrogen-powered-equinox-i-have-one-pics/51646
**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive
**Created:** [July 17, 2008, 11:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hydrogen-powered-equinox-i-have-one-pics/51646 "2008-07-17T11:36:01Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@Carnut](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Carnut)
#### Post date: [July 17, 2008, 6:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hydrogen-powered-equinox-i-have-one-pics/51646/41 "2008-07-17T18:02:32Z")
lol
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### Author:  [@ubengineering](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ubengineering)
#### Post date: [July 17, 2008, 6:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hydrogen-powered-equinox-i-have-one-pics/51646/42 "2008-07-17T18:14:44Z")
it looks like an uplander, but kool indeed
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### Author:  [@fairgentleman\_Z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fairgentleman_Z)
#### Post date: [July 17, 2008, 7:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hydrogen-powered-equinox-i-have-one-pics/51646/43 "2008-07-17T19:31:32Z")
> [@Fry](#):
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> dot
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> It’s thermodynamically the same gig as an electric car. Gotta make the energy before you can spend it powering your car. Whereas with gas, you pump it out of the ground, spend SOME energy refining it, then get more energy out than you’ve put it.
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> Fossil Fuels = Energy Source
> Hydrogen = Electricity = Energy Transport
Watt? Discharging batteries to create electrical current and power a motor is a thermodynamic process\*? Creating a national infrastructure to distribute hydrogen via pumping stations and/or residential hydrogen refining is a thermodynamic process?
Systems: it’s about energy conversion. It takes energy (electrical) to perform electrolysis on water to break it down to Hydrogen and Oxygen. Then that hydrogen (transportable) can be converted back to “usable” energy (heat or electrical via fuel cell).
\*(although some heat is created)
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### Author:  [@RedGoober4Life](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RedGoober4Life)
#### Post date: [July 18, 2008, 5:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hydrogen-powered-equinox-i-have-one-pics/51646/44 "2008-07-18T05:09:02Z")
You could look at a battery from a thermodynamics perspective, yes. It is possible, mechanical engineering man. It is possible!
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### Author:  [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)
#### Post date: [July 18, 2008, 5:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hydrogen-powered-equinox-i-have-one-pics/51646/45 "2008-07-18T05:50:09Z")
> [@boxxa](#):
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> EDIT: Here is an intresting read by ABC about Hybrids vs Hydrogen: [Hybrids vs. Hydrogen: Which Future Is Brighter? - ABC News](http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/Hybrid/Story?id=266883&page=1)
That’s a 4 year old article on an emerging technology. :shrug:
Fuel cell vehicles + cheap nuclear power to create the hydrogen FTW.
Plug in hybrids as a stop gap until the hyrdogen infrastructure is built.
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### Author:  [@justa4door](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/justa4door)
#### Post date: [July 18, 2008, 6:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hydrogen-powered-equinox-i-have-one-pics/51646/46 "2008-07-18T06:29:06Z")
burnout vid please
> [@JayS](#):
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> They haven’t figured that part out yet. When it runs out GM just picks it, crushes it, and drops off a new one. That’s why the public can’t get one yet.
truth
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### Author:  [@TORQDSS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TORQDSS)
#### Post date: [July 18, 2008, 7:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hydrogen-powered-equinox-i-have-one-pics/51646/47 "2008-07-18T07:30:12Z")
> [@justa4door](#):
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> burnout vid please
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> truth
riiiiiiight… burnout with the 25 million dollar fuel cell vehicle, how many people could say they did that?
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### Author:  [@BuickGN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BuickGN)
#### Post date: [July 18, 2008, 7:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hydrogen-powered-equinox-i-have-one-pics/51646/48 "2008-07-18T07:32:55Z")
25 million???
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### Author:  [@justa4door](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/justa4door)
#### Post date: [July 18, 2008, 7:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hydrogen-powered-equinox-i-have-one-pics/51646/49 "2008-07-18T07:42:21Z")
brake press do it
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### Author:  [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)
#### Post date: [July 18, 2008, 7:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hydrogen-powered-equinox-i-have-one-pics/51646/50 "2008-07-18T07:42:51Z")
> [@fairgentleman Z](#):
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> Watt? Discharging batteries to create electrical current and power a motor is a thermodynamic process\*? Creating a national infrastructure to distribute hydrogen via pumping stations and/or residential hydrogen refining is a thermodynamic process?
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> Systems: it’s about energy conversion. It takes energy (electrical) to perform electrolysis on water to break it down to Hydrogen and Oxygen. Then that hydrogen (transportable) can be converted back to “usable” energy (heat or electrical via fuel cell).
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> \*(although some heat is created)
You think too much. All I’m saying is that, like electricity, hydrogen is not an energy source.
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### Author:  [@boxxa](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boxxa)
#### Post date: [July 18, 2008, 8:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hydrogen-powered-equinox-i-have-one-pics/51646/51 "2008-07-18T08:13:09Z")
> [@Fry](#):
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> You think too much. All I’m saying is that, like electricity, hydrogen is not an energy source.
You have a point but the way I look at it is that Hydrogen cars reduce the need and demand for gasoline. Ya, it needs to be produced by factories that require power that typically are powered by oil or coal but it will trickly down. Solar, wind and nuclear power plans that start powering these factorys that produce hydrogen for cars can have a huge effect.
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### Author:  [@MPD47](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MPD47)
#### Post date: [July 18, 2008, 8:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hydrogen-powered-equinox-i-have-one-pics/51646/52 "2008-07-18T08:38:22Z")
Wow, they’ve actually done some work cleaning up the look of their hydrogen concepts. The stuff I’m used to seeing is SUV’s and pickups with full cabins/beds FULL of electrical equipment.
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### Author:  [@TurboTSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TurboTSi)
#### Post date: [July 18, 2008, 10:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hydrogen-powered-equinox-i-have-one-pics/51646/53 "2008-07-18T10:42:21Z")
Thats so sweet. Can’t wait to see what the future holds for these types of vehicles.
Is there anywhere on the outside of the car that resembles a “gas” cap where you put the hydrogen in the tank?
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### Author:  [@1badrex](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/1badrex)
#### Post date: [July 18, 2008, 10:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hydrogen-powered-equinox-i-have-one-pics/51646/54 "2008-07-18T10:56:04Z")
“Fuel Stack cells have been around 4 a long time”
It’s not used in mass quantity because GM was having trouble solving their previous issues (explosions); not sure about other manufacturers
GM decided to push the button on this project because all of the other top auto makers were fighting to see who could push their new product line with this option. GM hopes Fuel stack cells would cover 65% of all automotive sales.
The division that covered the development of this product is in Honeoye Falls, NY (Trison)
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### Author:  [@TORQDSS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TORQDSS)
#### Post date: [July 19, 2008, 7:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hydrogen-powered-equinox-i-have-one-pics/51646/55 "2008-07-19T07:57:18Z")
> [@TurboTSi](#):
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> Thats so sweet. Can’t wait to see what the future holds for these types of vehicles.
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> Is there anywhere on the outside of the car that resembles a “gas” cap where you put the hydrogen in the tank?
now that I think of it I don’t think so…i’ll have to check
> [@1badrex](#):
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> “Fuel Stack cells have been around 4 a long time”
> It’s not used in mass quantity because GM was having trouble solving their previous issues (explosions); not sure about other manufacturers
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> GM decided to push the button on this project because all of the other top auto makers were fighting to see who could push their new product line with this option. GM hopes Fuel stack cells would cover 65% of all automotive sales.
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> The division that covered the development of this product is in Honeoye Falls, NY (Trison)
that’s where this one came from
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### Author:  [@deebo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deebo)
#### Post date: [July 20, 2008, 12:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hydrogen-powered-equinox-i-have-one-pics/51646/56 "2008-07-20T12:49:25Z")
the front end looks like the gay chevy van tht they discontinued that chevy uses as like transporting customers from dealership to dealership…
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### Author:  [@StrokedZ28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/StrokedZ28)
#### Post date: [July 20, 2008, 3:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hydrogen-powered-equinox-i-have-one-pics/51646/57 "2008-07-20T15:30:47Z")
> [@Bigairskier1580](#):
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> “A potential advantage of hydrogen is that it could be produced and consumed continuously, using solar, water, wind and nuclear power for electrolysis. Currently, however, hydrogen vehicles utilizing hydrogen produce more pollution than vehicles consuming gasoline, diesel, or methane in a modern internal combustion engine, and far more than plug-in hybrid electric vehicles.[5][2] This is because, although hydrogen fuel cells generate no CO2, production of the hydrogen creates additional emissions.[6] While methods of hydrogen production that do not use fossil fuel would be more sustainable,[7] currently such production is not economically feasible, and diversion of renewable energy (which represents only 2% of energy generated) to the production of hydrogen for transportation applications is inadvisable.[2]”
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> [Hydrogen vehicle - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_vehicle)
So we’re saying that the creation of the hydrogen cuases more pollution than all the cars running on gas and the pollution created through drilling for oil and the refining process? I’m calling BS on that.
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### Author:  [@StrokedZ28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/StrokedZ28)
#### Post date: [July 20, 2008, 3:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hydrogen-powered-equinox-i-have-one-pics/51646/58 "2008-07-20T15:36:36Z")
The main problem is cost.
In my opinoin refueling stations should be setup by the dealerships at first. As the demand for hydrogen grows more and more people will start creating hydrogen stations since there will be money to be made. There will also creat a market for hydrogen production which can be done here in the states and create jobs instead of buying durka durka water.
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### Author:  [@OriginalSterm](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OriginalSterm)
#### Post date: [July 20, 2008, 7:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hydrogen-powered-equinox-i-have-one-pics/51646/59 "2008-07-20T19:37:06Z")
> [@TORQDSS"](#):
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> Backend has a carbon fiber valence, the slits are actually the “exhaust”, which is water and pure oxygen.
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> Close up.
Water, a little hydrogen (below the lower explosive limit), and some nitrogen. If you are exhausting pure oxygen, there would be major issues.
I had my overnight with a Fuel Cell Equinox a couple weeks ago. I was surprised at how close to a “real” car it actually felt.
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### Author:  [@OriginalSterm](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OriginalSterm)
#### Post date: [July 20, 2008, 7:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hydrogen-powered-equinox-i-have-one-pics/51646/60 "2008-07-20T19:42:15Z")
> [@1badrex](#):
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> “Fuel Stack cells have been around 4 a long time”
> It’s not used in mass quantity because GM was having trouble solving their previous issues (explosions); not sure about other manufacturers
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> GM decided to push the button on this project because all of the other top auto makers were fighting to see who could push their new product line with this option. GM hopes Fuel stack cells would cover 65% of all automotive sales.
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> The division that covered the development of this product is in Honeoye Falls, NY (Trison)
Care to point me where GM had explosions? I’ve seen “thermal events” where materials get burned, and even that is rare, but never an actual explosion. Visions of giant Nazi blimps burning and killing hundreds of people are not a concern for any auto maker working with Hydrogen. Fires could occur, but explosions are highly unlikely due to the nature of hydrogen and the many redundant safeties being put in place on the vehicles.
Trison is the contract house that supports GM in Honeoye Falls, primarily doing the work the union would do. Excellent group of people, but not solely responsible for the product.
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