# Hypothetical Question (Car Related, similar to "will the plane take off?")

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hypothetical-question-car-related-similar-to-will-the-plane-take-off/209288>\
**Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\
**Created:** [February 17, 2011, 9:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hypothetical-question-car-related-similar-to-will-the-plane-take-off/209288 "2011-02-17T21:43:14Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2011, 12:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hypothetical-question-car-related-similar-to-will-the-plane-take-off/209288/41 "2011-02-18T12:04:22Z")

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I still think it’s possible with enough rope and the car in a high enough gear. I want to try.

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**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2011, 12:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hypothetical-question-car-related-similar-to-will-the-plane-take-off/209288/42 "2011-02-18T12:06:31Z")

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I want to watch someone get yanked when they dump the clutch

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**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2011, 12:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hypothetical-question-car-related-similar-to-will-the-plane-take-off/209288/43 "2011-02-18T12:06:58Z")

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I would have just whacked the starter with the jack wrench.

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2011, 12:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hypothetical-question-car-related-similar-to-will-the-plane-take-off/209288/44 "2011-02-18T12:06:59Z")

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> [@newman](#):
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> I still think it’s possible with enough rope and the car in a high enough gear. I want to try.

It really isn’t that hard of an experiment to set up. My Expedition is automatic and the GTO has a posi rear so neither of those would work well. A 4 cyl ranger or S10 would be perfect. Small motors, usually open diffs, and enough fender room for your rope shenanigans.

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**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2011, 12:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hypothetical-question-car-related-similar-to-will-the-plane-take-off/209288/45 "2011-02-18T12:09:43Z")

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I love experiments. How many people can we have? how many Karters does it take to get 3600lbs?

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**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2011, 12:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hypothetical-question-car-related-similar-to-will-the-plane-take-off/209288/46 "2011-02-18T12:15:33Z")

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This is going to be a tough experiment to set up. Where are you going to get a land rover, much less a deep sand dune?

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**Author:** ![somedude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecd19e/32.png) [@somedude](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/somedude)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2011, 12:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hypothetical-question-car-related-similar-to-will-the-plane-take-off/209288/47 "2011-02-18T12:20:07Z")

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> [@JayS](#):
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> It really isn’t that hard of an experiment to set up. My Expedition is automatic and the GTO has a posi rear so neither of those would work well. A 4 cyl ranger or S10 would be perfect. Small motors, usually open diffs, and enough fender room for your rope shenanigans.

if it has a posi just lift up both tires then. I have a camera charged up ready to go.

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**Author:** ![NYstanger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/6a8cbe/32.png) [@NYstanger](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/NYstanger)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2011, 12:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hypothetical-question-car-related-similar-to-will-the-plane-take-off/209288/48 "2011-02-18T12:58:27Z")

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> [@Fry](#):
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> Yeah I think you’d have to get the wheels spinning impossibly fast to turn the motor. You’d be better off trying to fasten the rope to the idler pulley and turning the engine over directly.

How would you actually fasten the rope to the idler pulley? Not to mention being able to actually get rope around it with the belt in the way.

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> [@LZ](#):
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> I want to watch someone get yanked when they dump the clutch

Depends how much rope is left on the tire when the clutch is dumped.

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**Author:** ![Jam](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jam/32/7235_2.png) [@Jam](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jam)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2011, 1:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hypothetical-question-car-related-similar-to-will-the-plane-take-off/209288/49 "2011-02-18T13:56:56Z")

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i would really like to try this IRL…

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**Author:** ![ZOMGVTEK](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zomgvtek/32/5063_2.png) [@ZOMGVTEK](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ZOMGVTEK)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2011, 2:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hypothetical-question-car-related-similar-to-will-the-plane-take-off/209288/50 "2011-02-18T14:49:17Z")

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Sounds like it might be exciting, go ahead and try it… Make sure to record it for possible LOLs.

I was one of two people bump starting a beat to shit high miles 91 Accord with a shot clutch, and its surprisingly brutal.  
It took everything we had, and it BARELY started. Starters are good.

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**Author:** ![Jam](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jam/32/7235_2.png) [@Jam](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jam)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2011, 4:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hypothetical-question-car-related-similar-to-will-the-plane-take-off/209288/51 "2011-02-18T16:35:19Z")

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Dude I bump started my 89 civic for a month once when i was 18 bc I didn’t have the money for a starter lol. Yes, it had pretty bad compression, burned a qt of oil every few weeks but it always started like that. I used to roll around parking lots for a while tryin to find a decent hill

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**Author:** ![pirite](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pirite/32/5308_2.png) [@pirite](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/pirite)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2011, 4:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hypothetical-question-car-related-similar-to-will-the-plane-take-off/209288/52 "2011-02-18T16:57:09Z")

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> [@Jam](#):
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> i would really like to try this IRL…

im in. lol

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**Author:** ![Axis](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/axis/32/5149_2.png) [@Axis](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Axis)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2011, 6:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hypothetical-question-car-related-similar-to-will-the-plane-take-off/209288/53 "2011-02-18T18:24:12Z")

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NYspeed safari meet?

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**Author:** ![joelster](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joelster/32/7258_2.png) [@joelster](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/joelster)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2011, 5:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hypothetical-question-car-related-similar-to-will-the-plane-take-off/209288/54 "2011-02-19T05:44:35Z")

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> [@JayS](#):
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> Yeah, I don’t know what I was thinking there.
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> I still don’t think you have a chance in hell of starting it with just the inertia of the wheel and axle though.

It could be done. The hard part would be maintaining the balance of the vehicle. You can turn over a V-8 engine with a socket and a foot long ratchet on the crank hub, no reason that a wheel with a much larger diameter wouldn’t work, especially since the gearing is in your favor.

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**Author:** ![somedude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecd19e/32.png) [@somedude](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/somedude)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2011, 1:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hypothetical-question-car-related-similar-to-will-the-plane-take-off/209288/55 "2011-02-19T13:42:45Z")

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just don’t wrap the rope around your hand if you are pulling on the off chance it does start and the rope gets wound up in the tire and pulls someone in to their death.

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**Author:** ![mindless](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mindless/32/7286_2.png) [@mindless](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/mindless)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2011, 2:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hypothetical-question-car-related-similar-to-will-the-plane-take-off/209288/56 "2011-02-19T14:09:54Z")

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Ive seen cars push started in sand before, push the bitch and bump start it game over.

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**Author:** ![Jam](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jam/32/7235_2.png) [@Jam](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jam)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2011, 12:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hypothetical-question-car-related-similar-to-will-the-plane-take-off/209288/57 "2011-02-20T00:47:08Z")

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but its deep bill, DEEP!!! super deep!!!

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**Author:** ![Garick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8797f3/32.png) [@Garick](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Garick)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2011, 8:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hypothetical-question-car-related-similar-to-will-the-plane-take-off/209288/58 "2011-10-20T20:16:58Z")

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proven?

[https://youtu.be/VRpPPobJEe4](https://youtu.be/VRpPPobJEe4)

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**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2011, 5:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hypothetical-question-car-related-similar-to-will-the-plane-take-off/209288/59 "2011-10-21T05:25:30Z")

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> [@LZ](#):
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> Who goes to Africa?

👋

> [@Fry](#):
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> Yeah I think you’d have to get the wheels spinning impossibly fast to turn the motor. You’d be better off trying to fasten the rope to the idler pulley and turning the engine over directly.

Was I high when I came up with this? I’ve got my physics back asswards. This would require the most force on the rope of any of these ideas.

> [@newman](#):
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> You guys are forgetting that you have a mechanical advantage working in your favor if the truck is in high gear and depending on the rate of the final drive.

This is where it’s at.

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**Author:** ![livin4hockey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d2c977/32.png) [@livin4hockey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/livin4hockey)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2011, 5:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hypothetical-question-car-related-similar-to-will-the-plane-take-off/209288/60 "2011-10-21T05:28:40Z")

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8 month bump?

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